Re: [Rails-devel] 1825 patches

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Jim,

All very valid observations, and a fair point I was incorrect in
stating that it amounts to the same thing.  However running in
formation order is not how the rules present it according to my
rulebook:

4.1.3, page 7:
The companies run in decreasing order of size, as shown by the price
on the share certificates.  When two companies have the same price,
for instance, the GER and the LSWR are both valued at £76, they are
run in the order in which they were formed.  This order does not
change during the game.

Am I or you operating from an older or corrected copy of the rules?
My rulebook is copyright 2009 so I'm assuming it's the latest version
but then it's entirely possible I'm missing an external FAQ or
clarification.

Phil

On 17 September 2010 23:25, Jim Black <ji...@ko...> wrote:
> my previous post had an editing error- a bunch of the previous thread/digest appended- apologies, here's a correction--
>
> <snip>
>
> A followup on operating order in 1825:
>
> Phil>> in 1825 companies always operate in descending par value order.
> Phil>> When two companies share the same par value, they always operate
> Phil>> in the order they were formed.
>
> Jim>> That's not right: throughout the 1825, majors operate strictly in order of
> Jim>> formation (NOT par value).
>
> Phil> This amounts to the same thing for all scenarios I can think of and is
> Phil> how it's written in the rulebook (the rulebook says companies operate
> Phil> in order of 'face value')
>
> No:  formation-order is related to par-value, but it can be very different.
>
> In 1825, companies become available in flights, organized by par-value.
>
> Once /any/ company in a given flight is sold-out, then all companies/shares in the next flight become available.
>
> Unit 1 has 5 flights:  LNWR (100), GWR (90), GER & LSWR (76), SECR (71), LBSC (67)
>
> And,
>
> Phil> the GWR which must form before either the GER or
> Phil> LSWR forms.  The tricky bit is catching which of those
> Phil> two forms first and this IS currently handled.
>
> This is all true, but not sufficient.
>
> When /either/ GER or LSWR sells out, SECR becomes available.  And, once SECR sells out, LBSC becomes available.
>
> As a result, it's very possible for SECR and LBSC to operate /before/ either GER, or LSWR (but never before both).
>
> In Unit2, there's 3 flights:  LNWR (100), MR & NER (82), GCR & GNR & L&Y (71)
>
> It's /very/ common for only one of MR & NER to form, then sell out, while the other company stands unpurchased.  (Eg, MR forms and sells out, but no one wants NER because of its remote location. )  Then, a few companies in the 3rd flight form (GCR, GNR, and/or L&Y), before the remaining company in flight 2 every forms.  As a result, that flight 2 company operates very late- /not/ in par-value order, at all.
>
> best,
> -  jim
>
>
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