Re: [Rails-devel] 1825 patches

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Oh, one further item that occurs to me that's worth mentioning for
anyone that is keen to test 1825 (please bear in mind it still has
many issues and is currently only testable from the SVN codebase).

The start round works ass-backwards but functionally correctly to the
physical game.  In the boardgame, you randomise the distribution of
the private companies, then seat yourself around the table in
ascending value of private.

On rails, the method is to ensure you randomise the seating of the
players first, then during the start round, each player will be forced
to buy the appropriate private related to their seating position.
This ends up being the exact same thing but does mean that it's
important you hit that 'randomise seating' button or put people into
the startup screen in the order you have determined seating to be
using whatever external randomisation system of your choice.

Brett: This is the sort of player information I think would be useful
to have on the documentation wiki...can I get access to edit pages
there to add this sort of info?  Or at least someone create a page for
1825 that I have rights over so I can stick down thoughts like this as
they come up?

Phil

On 15 September 2010 16:57, Phil Davies <de...@gm...> wrote:
> Jim,
>
>>> in 1825 companies always operate in descending par value order.
>>> When two companies share the same par value, they always operate
>>>  in the order they were formed.
>>
>> That's not right:  throughout the 1825, majors operate strictly in order of formation (NOT par value).
>
> This amounts to the same thing for all scenarios I can think of and is
> how it's written in the rulebook (the rulebook says companies operate
> in order of 'face value')
>
> In the case of 1825 unit 1 (which is all I've got added so far), the
> LNWR MUST form before the GWR which must form before either the GER or
> LSWR forms.  The tricky bit is catching which of those two forms first
> and this IS currently handled.
>
>> Only minors operate in descending par value.
>
> SO far away from adding minor companies at the moment but I will bear
> that in mind!
>
>> Also, please review the bug incident I filed (I think Erik moved it to feature requests), enumerating many 1825 issues- it
>> would be really helpful if this was surveyed again, before marking 1825 playable/experimental.
>
> I will do, I 1825 up until the last week has been the map XML and
> nothing more, absolutely nothing was written for it so I've not
> bothered checking bug reports since I wasn't expecting anyone to try
> launching it!  I'll review these and see if I need to add anything
> else that isn't already on my list.  The goal for me at this stage is
> to get Unit 1 playable on it's own, from start to finish with all
> features covered in the core rulebook.  Once that is done I can start
> thinking about mixing in other units/minors/tile packs etc.
>
>> I'm curious whether you implemented the update to allow 1-4 steps on the stock-market, depending on the size of earnings.
>
> Yep, all working
>
>> Also, whether running 2 2-trains as 1 3-train works in the revenue-calc engine...
>
> Currently no, in fact currently the route calculation is totally
> broken for 1825 since it allows you to start and end at small towns
> AND visit two stations on the same hex, both of which aren't allowed.
> So for the moment I'm afraid anyone testing will have to revert to
> manual routing.  Route calculation is either 2nd or 1st on my list of
> things to fix...right after I work out how complicated receivership is
> and which I fancy tackling first
>
> Phil
>
>
> On 15 September 2010 16:38, Jim Black <ji...@ko...> wrote:
>>
>> Phil wrote:
>>
>>> in 1825 companies always operate in descending par value order.
>>> When two companies share the same par value, they always operate
>>>  in the order they were formed.
>>
>> That's not right:  throughout the 1825, majors operate strictly in order of formation (NOT par value).
>>
>> Only minors operate in descending par value.
>>
>> Also, please review the bug incident I filed (I think Erik moved it to feature requests), enumerating many 1825 issues- it would be really helpful if this was surveyed again, before marking 1825 playable/experimental.
>>
>> I'm curious whether you implemented the update to allow 1-4 steps on the stock-market, depending on the size of earnings.  (That's really important..)   Also, whether running 2 2-trains as 1 3-train works in the revenue-calc engine...
>>
>> best,
>>  - jim
>>
>>
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