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Re: [Rails-devel] Report window as game history
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From: Chris S. <chr...@gm...> - 2010-08-31 17:04:46
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Testing on Mac shows that you can copy/paste into a Firefox edit window. Despite our desire to avoid Windows, a significant portion of the player base are Windows users. Many of them are not technically proficient enough to switch, nor should we try to force them to do so. I will test on Windows and Ubuntu this evening. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Steve Undy <ste...@gm...>wrote: > OK, very interesting. Cut-and-paste works from the report window into > Notepad, but not directly into a Firefox edit window. But you can > cut-and-paste from that Notepad window into Firefox. Another reason to > avoid Windows. > > (sorry about all the chatter on this) > > > Steve Undy > st...@ro... > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Steve Undy <ste...@gm...>wrote: > >> I agree with Chris: It looks like cut-and-paste doesn't work from the new >> report window on Windows (at least not on XP). >> >> >> Steve Undy >> st...@ro... >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>wrote: >> >>> Interestingly, it works on my Mac at work. I'll do more testing when I >>> get home tonight. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Chris >>> >>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:30 AM, Steve Undy <ste...@gm...>wrote: >>> >>>> Hmmm. Copying from the report window works OK on my linux system. >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve Undy >>>> st...@ro... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm... >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm using 1.4 now, and I can't seem to copy text from the new report >>>>> window to paste it into an email. I've tried on both Windows and Ubuntu >>>>> Linux, with the configuration "report window editable" checked and unchecked >>>>> on both systems. Any suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Chris & Erik: >>>>>> * Fixed the missing newline in copy&paste from the new report window >>>>>> (google is your friend). >>>>>> >>>>>> * There is a new configuration window now, which allows to set options >>>>>> via an >>>>>> UI. I will add some code (similar to the one font changes) that makes >>>>>> the >>>>>> change immediate and does not require a reload. Supplying both >>>>>> simultaneously >>>>>> would be possible, but might bring more confusion to newbies than >>>>>> benefits to >>>>>> the experts? >>>>>> >>>>>> * I could change the (static/legacy) report window to the new behavior >>>>>> of >>>>>> clearing undone actions instead of appending undoing, but then the >>>>>> difference >>>>>> between the two is merely formatting and the availability of >>>>>> hyperlinks. Then >>>>>> it is easier to deactivate the formatting and hyperlinks than to >>>>>> support two >>>>>> different subclasses of the ReportWindow. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are two reasons to keep the static version: >>>>>> A) For me the static window acts as an accounting trail, thus keeps >>>>>> track of >>>>>> undos explicitly. >>>>>> B) For (quite old) computers (or handhelds if Rails gets portable in >>>>>> the >>>>>> future) the JEditorPane is a drag on performance and the whole content >>>>>> is >>>>>> updated after each action instead of appending as in the static case. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stefan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:31:15 am Chris Shaffer wrote: >>>>>> > In that case, could there be an option to enable both report >>>>>> windows, so >>>>>> > users can switch back and forth between them within a single game? >>>>>> And >>>>>> > without requiring them to edit configuration files and reload? I'd >>>>>> hate to >>>>>> > have to choose between one or the other, since they both have lots >>>>>> of >>>>>> > utility. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Chris >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > > I found that you can do that, but at the rather severe penalty of >>>>>> losing >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > all end-of lines. The report becomes one long line. >>>>>> > > Better keep to the (what Stefan in his wisdom disposes as) >>>>>> "legacy" >>>>>> > > report if you want to save or copy it. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Erik. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > ------------------------------ >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > *From:* Chris Shaffer [mailto:chr...@gm...] >>>>>> > > *Sent:* Wednesday 11 August 2010 21:17 >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > *To:* Development list for Rails: an 18xx game >>>>>> > > *Subject:* Re: [Rails-devel] Report window as game history >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Is it still possible to copy text from the Report window for >>>>>> pasting into >>>>>> > > an email? >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > -- >>>>>> > > Chris >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Stefan Frey <ste...@we...> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >> The linked movesets in the CGR 1856 merger inspired a feature >>>>>> that >>>>>> > >> proved to >>>>>> > >> be surprisingly easy (as it leverages on the excellent move/state >>>>>> > >> mechanisms >>>>>> > >> in Rails). The downside is that it can be effected by the all >>>>>> undo >>>>>> > >> related bugs, but the number of those was on the decrease lately. >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> The report window now acts as game history: There are hyperlinks >>>>>> for >>>>>> > >> each action. Clicking on any of those lets Rails jump to that >>>>>> game >>>>>> > >> situation (by >>>>>> > >> calling undo repeatedly). Return to a later position is possible >>>>>> unless >>>>>> > >> an action is taken (as it is the case for standard redo). I also >>>>>> added >>>>>> > >> two buttons (<< and >>) to allow single-step moves. >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> The old report window (which is editable) can be activated via >>>>>> the >>>>>> > >> Configuration menu (or setting report.window.type to static in >>>>>> the >>>>>> > >> legacy configfiles). >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Stefan >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> > >> ------ This SF.net email is sponsored by >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> > >> Make an app they can't live without >>>>>> > >> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >>>>>> > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >>>>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > >> Rails-devel mailing list >>>>>> > >> Rai...@li... >>>>>> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> > > ----- This SF.net email is sponsored by >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Make an app they can't live without >>>>>> > > Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >>>>>> > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > > Rails-devel mailing list >>>>>> > > Rai...@li... >>>>>> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by >>>>>> >>>>>> Make an app they can't live without >>>>>> Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge >>>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Rails-devel mailing list >>>>>> Rai...@li... >>>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: >>>>> >>>>> Show off your parallel programming skills. >>>>> Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Rails-devel mailing list >>>>> Rai...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by: >>>> >>>> Show off your parallel programming skills. >>>> Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Rails-devel mailing list >>>> Rai...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rails-devel >>>> >>>> >>> >> > |
