Re: [Rails-devel] 18EU minor initial sale round bugs

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

Yes, I think this is a good summation.  Similarly, the log file should
reflect the new text rather than saying that players have passed.

You are correct that this is not a show stopper.  However, in my experience,
when teaching new players 18EU, the distinctions between auction and
purchase can be somewhat confusing.  Proper use of the terms to match the
rulebook helps with their understanding. This is even more important when
using Rails as a PBEM client, since the teacher is not there in-person to
explain the rules to the new players.

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Chris

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On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Stefan Frey (web.de)
<ste...@we...>wrote:

> Chris:
> I already fixed the first bug (players were still able to bid after pass
> after
> an auction started for that item) a few days ago.
>
> >From my understanding the second "bug" is only the label of the button:
> During the first round (where an auction is still possible) the button with
> label "pass" should be called "decline to bid".
>
> In the later rounds (where buying is possible) the label for the pass
> button
> should be changed to "decline to buy", if one wants to mimick the rule
> phrases here too.
>
> It is easy to change that, but I must admit, that I never had any problem.
> I always assumed that the auction only starts, when the first bid is
> raised.
> Thus for me even the button for the auctioneer could be relabelled to
> "select
> and pass" and I would still assume that the auctioneer could decide to
> enter
> the auction later.
>
> Stefan
>
>
> On Friday 25 June 2010 19:23:17 Chris Shaffer wrote:
> > It does give that to the person who selects the minor.  It does not offer
> > "no bid" to the following players, who should be offered the same option.
> >
> > --
> > Chris
> >
> > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Phil Davies <de...@gm...> wrote:
> > > I was fairly sure that EU gave you a 'start, no bid' option to start an
> > > auction without bidding
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > On 25 Jun 2010, at 17:50, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...>
> wrote:
> > > > I've recently submitted two bug reports for 18EU that I thought I
> would
> > >
> > > mention here.
> > >
> > > > First, when a minor is initially offered, a player should be offered
> > > > the
> > >
> > > options to "bid" (thus starting an auction) or "decline to bid."
> > > Instead, players are offered "bid" or "pass."  This is also recorded in
> > > the game log as a pass.  The rules are clear that declining to start an
> > > auction does not constitute a pass.
> > >
> > > > Second, after an auction is started, a player who subsequently passes
> > >
> > > should not be allowed to re-enter the auction.  Rails allows players to
> > > do this.
> > >
> > > > --
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> > >
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