Re: [Rails-devel] Bug in 18EU

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I noticed (a bit late) that several people have entered 
quite a number of bug reports during the last week. 
Many thanks to Jim Black, Chris Shaffer and Andrew Pullin
to enter these reports. It is gratifying to see that Rails
is now being seriously used in several groups, and that
errors are being actively reported to help improving quality 
of this game system.

I have read and commented upon most of these reports now,
and applied quite a number of fixes. I'll post
a summary later. One bug report to go now.

Brett, I would propose to publish another release candidate
later this week, after I have gone through all of this, 
and you have done your part.
I would like to give these people a chance to test the applies 
fixes, and also a little leeway to report any more bugs.

It must be said, that several bugs proved to be quite destructive
for game play, and I would like to get version 1.0.7
as correct as we can get it in reasonable time.
The last few releases turned out to be buggier than expected,
and I'm willing and have time to pay some extra attention to quality.

I hope that the US vacation week will not get in the way too much for you.

Regards,
Erik.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: brett lentz [mailto:wak...@gm...] 
> Sent: Tuesday 17 November 2009 00:40
> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Bug in 18EU
> 
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Erik Vos <eri...@hc...> wrote:
> > Oh, I now see that several more bug reports have been 
> entered into the
> > Tracker.
> > I'll have a pass through the list this week to see if 
> there's anything else
> > that urgently needs a fix.
> >
> > Brett, there is a report on rails.sh having ^M at end of 
> line, which seems
> > harmful.
> > Can you check that one?
> >
> 
> Ah, yeah. I can handle that one.  That's what I get for editing the
> file on my Windows box. :-\
> 
> > Erik.
> >
> 
> 
> ---Brett.
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Erik Vos [mailto:eri...@hc...]
> >> Sent: Monday 16 November 2009 23:28
> >> To: 'Development list for Rails: an 18xx game'
> >> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Bug in 18EU
> >>
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> Same problem, same fix.
> >> I agree that a final release can be done now, unless someone
> >> finds another
> >> bug before the weekend.
> >>
> >> Erik.
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Jim Black [mailto:jim...@ya...]
> >> > Sent: Monday 16 November 2009 20:36
> >> > To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> >> > Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Bug in 18EU
> >> >
> >> > I've encountered the same bug chris mentions, below- can't
> >> > bid amounts
> >> > once the privates are in auction (the 'spinner', I 
> gather), and we
> >> > must increment strictly in $5's.  (I  was unable to play
> >> forward one
> >> > pbem game because I couldn't contrive $5 raises to match
> >> the actualy
> >> > bidding.)  I think some people play that you must raise in $5's,
> >> > although I don't think that's the conventional/popular ruling.
> >> >
> >> > I did notice that rc2 did fix the stock-adjustment at the
> >> > floor of the
> >> > market probem I reported- thanks!   We're moving again with
> >> our 1830
> >> > pbem game, this was much appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Also, I saw that impassable hex boundaries are now clearly
> >> outlined-
> >> > very nice, and thanks for that improvement too.
> >> >
> >> > I haven't had time to digest the latest re:
> >> > current-dir/dropbox/token/
> >> > real-time-load/etc, but I'll try to provide some feedback
> >> > there later
> >> > too.
> >> >
> >> >   - jim
> >> >
> >> > On Nov 16, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Erik Vos wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > This bug has been fixed in the source code base. Ths fix
> >> > will be in
> >> > > the next
> >> > > release (candidate).
> >> > > In one place, the amount field (spinner) was not enabled
> >> together
> >> > > with the
> >> > > Bid button; this omission only surfaced when a game 
> was reloaded.
> >> > >
> >> > > Not sure if this fix is worth a new release candidate; in
> >> > any case I
> >> > > don't
> >> > > have any more time today to try creating one.
> >> > >
> >> > > Erik.
> >> > >
> >> > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> From: Erik Vos [mailto:eri...@hc...]
> >> > >> Sent: Sunday 15 November 2009 23:37
> >> > >> To: 'Development list for Rails: an 18xx game'
> >> > >> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Bug in 18EU
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Strange. After loading your file I see the problem, but not
> >> > >> if I replay it
> >> > >> manually.
> >> > >> The only explanation I can think of now, is that screen
> >> > >> updating after a
> >> > >> load
> >> > >> is in some respect different than when playing manually from
> >> > >> the start.
> >> > >> And I must say that the location of the action to
> >> > >> enable/disable this input
> >> > >> field
> >> > >> in the code is somewhat suspect. So I do have food for
> >> > >> investigation now.
> >> > >> Stay tuned.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>> From: Chris Shaffer [mailto:chr...@gm...]
> >> > >>> Sent: Sunday 15 November 2009 22:36
> >> > >>> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> >> > >>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Bug in 18EU
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> It's been there since we began the game.  Here is the most
> >> > >>> recent save file.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> --
> >> > >>> Chris
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Erik Vos
> >> > >> <eri...@hc...> wrote:
> >> > >>>> Did this not occur at the start of the round but 
> only later on?
> >> > >>>> In that case, a saved file might help. A copy of the log
> >> > >>> file would also
> >> > >>>> help.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Without any means to reproduce such a case, there isn't
> >> > >>> much I can do.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Erik.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>>>> From: Chris Shaffer [mailto:chr...@gm...]
> >> > >>>>> Sent: Sunday 15 November 2009 19:36
> >> > >>>>> To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
> >> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Bug in 18EU
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> The spinner is greyed out and disabled in our game, as
> >> > >> is the text
> >> > >>>>> entry area for the bid amount, using version 1.06.  Two
> >> > >>> players have
> >> > >>>>> verified it.  Clicking the Bid button bids the current
> >> > amount and
> >> > >>>>> increments the bid amount by 5.  Nothing else we do
> >> changes the
> >> > >>>>> spinner or the bid amount.  I've attached a screenshot.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Any suggestions?
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> --
> >> > >>>>> Chris
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Please consider the environment before printing 
> this e-mail.
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Erik Vos
> >> > >>> <eri...@hc...> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> 18EU will not let players place an initial bid higher
> >> > >>> than 100, nor
> >> > >>>>>>> will it allow players to increase the current bid by
> >> > >>> more than 5.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> ??
> >> > >>>>>> For me, adding any multiple of 5 works allright, both
> >> > >> by clicking
> >> > >>>>>> the spinner at the right of the bid amount field,
> >> and by typing
> >> > >>>>>> the amount into that field. This is so both in version
> >> > >>> 1.0.6 and in
> >> > >>>>>> the current code base, and also both for the initial and
> >> > >>>>> for later bids.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> So I'm really at a loss what makes you having the
> >> > >> experience that
> >> > >>>>>> this all wouldn't be possible.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> I've also submitted this as a bug.
> >> > >>>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>> However, I need to know if it's possible to override this
> >> > >>>>> and allow a
> >> > >>>>>>> player to purchase an item for a price other than that
> >> > >>>>> forced by the
> >> > >>>>>>> program?
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> See above.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Currently there is no correction mode, as exists 
> in Lemmi's
> >> > >>>>> moderator.
> >> > >>>>>> I've been thinking about that, and I suppose that the
> >> > >> most wanted
> >> > >>>>>> correction feature would be shifting money 
> between any pair
> >> > >>>>> of cash holders.
> >> > >>>>>> That should be faily easily to add in version 1.0.8 or so.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>> Erik.
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
> >> > >>>>>>
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