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FW: [Radioactive-design] Persistence Help ?
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From: Somen M. <som...@ra...> - 2004-10-08 18:35:48
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Sapan emailed me some comments about the PML which can be used in addition to the last email. He wrote: "To give a bit more of an input, it is quite possible that these standards can be based on verticals, if need be. For e.g, when exchanging the data pertaining to the healthcare industry, it might make sense to have some special attributes in the data exchange format as compare to the retail chain." Regards, Somen > Hi Guys, > > Just received some information from Michael (VeriSign), here's the scoop > on > PML. I was sort of right and wrong with my explanation, sorry for any > confusion. > > Basically, he said that PML was termed inappropriately. The PML > "replacement" is just standard XML technologies (XSD, WSDL, etc). They > will > use existing markup standards that are just fine 'as-is'. They are just > going to use industry standard web services (WS-I) as the basis for EPC-IS > and standard XML Schema as the method for describing terms. > > Hope that helps. > > Thanks, > Somen > > -----Original Message----- > From: rad...@li... > [mailto:rad...@li...] On Behalf Of TMG > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:18 AM > To: rad...@li... > Subject: Re: [Radioactive-design] Persistence Help ? > > Somen et. al., > > I appreciate your feedback. > > Does this mean that Verisign is going with an undisclosed proprietary > model? The need for a consistent way to model and implement sensors, > observations, and tags is obvious ... is there any non-profit group > (e.g. W3) working to identify standards if the PML disappears? > > Thank you, > > Tom Gordon > > > Somen Mondal wrote: > >>Hi John, >> >>For the EPC-IS, Shaun meant we will use a database for persistence. We > have >>been told from our friends at Verisign that PML will no longer be used >> that >>there will be no replacement for it. I will confirm that there is no >>replacement for it. >> >>Thanks, >>Somen >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: rad...@li... >>[mailto:rad...@li...] On Behalf Of John > E. >>Conlon >>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:05 PM >>To: sha...@ra... >>Cc: rad...@li...; TMG >>Subject: Re: [Radioactive-design] Persistence Help ? >> >>Hi Shaun, >> >>Are you saying that the Radioactive EPC-IS EJB will use Sleepycat's >>Berkley DB to implement a persistence service? >> >>Regarding PML, why would EPC throw it out? Any hint at what will >>replace it? >> >>cheers, >> >>John >> >>On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 13:26, sha...@ra... wrote: >> >> >>>Hello Tom, >>> >>>Thank you for your email. I have replied below. >>> >>> >>> >>>>I am developing a J2EE open source persistent service using an object >>>>database that will manage epc global's PML Core Specification version >>>>1.0 >>>> >>>> >>(http://www.epcglobalinc.org/standards_technology/specifications.html). >> >> >>>>From what we have been told, much of the specs you are refering to are >>> >>> >>out dated, >> >> >>>and/or deprecated. EPC should be releasing some new specs very soon, >>> and >>> >>> >>it >> >> >>>appears as though PML is out. >>> >>> >>> >>>>I have read through the middleware requirements documentation, and have >>>>questions about what data binding interfaces you have in mind such that >>>>the system will work with Relational, XML, or Object databases. >>>> >>>> >>>The middleware will work with Object databases (Berkley DB). Is this >>> what >>> >>> >>you >> >> >>>are refering to? The EPC-IS will hopefully be database agnostic. >>> >>>We are deffinitley interested in any contribution you can make to the >>> >>> >>project. >> >> >>>Feel free to send me an email and we can talk further. >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Shaun >>> >>>On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 10:47 , TMG <tm...@nc...> sent: >>> >>> >>> >>>>All, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>The current implementation is using JBoss Stateless EJBs, which can be >>>>accessed via a servlet using REST (GET, POST, PUT, DELETE -> HTTP) or >>>>SOAP (using Apache Axis). The EJBs could be implemented in any EJB >>>>container (e.g. OpenEJB). >>>> >>>>I have read through the middleware requirements documentation, and have >>>>questions about what data binding interfaces you have in mind such that >>>>the system will work with Relational, XML, or Object databases. >>>> >>>>My assumption is that you are trying to be database agnostic, and that >>>> a >>>>database implementation should "plug-in" to support the middleware >>>>components. >>>> >>>>If you are interested, please let me know. >>>> >>>>Sincerely, >>>> >>>>Tom Gordon >>>> >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>>This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on >>>> ITManagersJournal >>>>Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give >>>> us >>>>Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! 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