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From: U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> - 2023-09-09 19:30:44
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I today learned that some of the recent mails posted in this mailing list did not make to my email client. For example the following posting by Jonathan S. on 2023-09-05 12:53:12 I only saw today on the web when I did some searching in the archive at sourceforge: https://sourceforge.net/p/quantlib/mailman/message/37892292/ Folks, I think such commercial sites are very unreliable for such open source projects. It's IMO a nightmare situation for all list subscribers, especially for active participants. What about switching the mailing list provider? Where one also can download the old postings, which IMO is not possible at this sourgeforge site. |
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From: Luigi B. <lui...@gm...> - 2023-09-10 07:12:54
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I don't think the problem is in the mailing list. I was replying to your address directly, not through the mailing list, and I've been getting warnings all week like the one below. The same happened when I replied to the private email you sent to me. It seems to me the emails were all sent, but it's your server that's not behaving. Luigi Message not delivered There was a problem delivering your message to *um...@mu...*. See the technical details below. LEARN MORE <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720> The response was: The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more at https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [mail.mutluit.com. 195.201.130.20: timed out] [mutluit.com. 195.201.130.20: timed out] On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:33 PM U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> wrote: > I today learned that some of the recent mails posted in this mailing list > did not make to my email client. > For example the following posting by Jonathan S. on 2023-09-05 12:53:12 > I only saw today on the web when I did some searching > in the archive at sourceforge: > https://sourceforge.net/p/quantlib/mailman/message/37892292/ > > Folks, I think such commercial sites are very unreliable > for such open source projects. > It's IMO a nightmare situation for all list subscribers, > especially for active participants. > > What about switching the mailing list provider? > Where one also can download the old postings, which IMO is not possible at > this sourgeforge site. > > > > _______________________________________________ > QuantLib-users mailing list > Qua...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users > |
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From: U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> - 2023-09-10 10:40:00
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Luigi, your below posting of today morning as well I did not receive but found only in the archive. Normally in case of such problems the sending mail server tries to resend it later, but your mail server seems not to try to resend it. Look what google says at https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6596#zippy=%2Crecipient-server-did-not-accept-our-requests It says "Try sending the email again later.", ie. the user has to do it manually. That's very funny :-) " "Recipient server did not accept our requests" Why your message bounced You'll see this error message if Gmail can’t connect to your recipient’s email server. What you can do The problem usually goes away quickly without you doing anything. Try sending the email again later. If you keep getting the error: Check if there are any mistakes in the recipient's email address. Contact the customer support team of your recipient's email provider. If you got this error while emailing someone at your work, school, or other organization, contact your administrator. " I checked my server, but could not find anything related in the logs. I now have disabled IPv6 as I don't need it on that server, and rebooted the server. I will also contact my hosting provider about this problem. Thx. Luigi B. <lui...@gm...> on 2023-09-10 07:12:54 wrote > > I don't think the problem is in the mailing list. I was replying to your > address directly, not through the mailing list, and I've been getting > warnings all week like the one below. The same happened when I replied to > the private email you sent to me. It seems to me the emails were all sent, > but it's your server that's not behaving. > > Luigi > Message not delivered > There was a problem delivering your message to *um...@mu...*. See the > technical details below. > LEARN MORE <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720> > The response was: > > The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more at > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [mail.mutluit.com. > 195.201.130.20: timed out] [mutluit.com. 195.201.130.20: timed out] > > On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:33 PM U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> wrote: > > > I today learned that some of the recent mails posted in this mailing list > > did not make to my email client. > > For example the following posting by Jonathan S. on 2023-09-05 12:53:12 > > I only saw today on the web when I did some searching > > in the archive at sourceforge: > > https://sourceforge.net/p/quantlib/mailman/message/37892292/ > > > > Folks, I think such commercial sites are very unreliable > > for such open source projects. > > It's IMO a nightmare situation for all list subscribers, > > especially for active participants. > > > > What about switching the mailing list provider? > > Where one also can download the old postings, which IMO is not possible at > > this sourgeforge site. |
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From: Luigi B. <lui...@gm...> - 2023-09-10 12:30:11
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Hello—that was the third and last message I got, some 50 hours after sending the message. In the meantime, it did try to resend it. On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 12:43 PM U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> wrote: > Luigi, your below posting of today morning as well I did not > receive but found only in the archive. > > Normally in case of such problems the sending mail server tries to > resend it later, but your mail server seems not to try to resend it. > > Look what google says at > > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6596#zippy=%2Crecipient-server-did-not-accept-our-requests > > It says "Try sending the email again later.", ie. the user has to do it > manually. That's very funny :-) > > " > "Recipient server did not accept our requests" > Why your message bounced > You'll see this error message if Gmail can’t connect to your recipient’s > email > server. > > What you can do > The problem usually goes away quickly without you doing anything. Try > sending > the email again later. > > If you keep getting the error: > > Check if there are any mistakes in the recipient's email address. > Contact the customer support team of your recipient's email provider. > If you got this error while emailing someone at your work, school, or > other > organization, contact your administrator. > " > > I checked my server, but could not find anything related in the logs. > I now have disabled IPv6 as I don't need it on that server, and rebooted > the > server. > I will also contact my hosting provider about this problem. Thx. > > > > Luigi B. <lui...@gm...> on 2023-09-10 07:12:54 wrote > > > > I don't think the problem is in the mailing list. I was replying to > your > > address directly, not through the mailing list, and I've been getting > > warnings all week like the one below. The same happened when I replied > to > > the private email you sent to me. It seems to me the emails were all > sent, > > but it's your server that's not behaving. > > > > Luigi > > Message not delivered > > There was a problem delivering your message to *um...@mu...*. See the > > technical details below. > > LEARN MORE <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720> > > The response was: > > > > The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more > at > > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [mail.mutluit.com. > > 195.201.130.20: timed out] [mutluit.com. 195.201.130.20: timed out] > > > > On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:33 PM U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> wrote: > > > > > I today learned that some of the recent mails posted in this mailing > list > > > did not make to my email client. > > > For example the following posting by Jonathan S. on 2023-09-05 > 12:53:12 > > > I only saw today on the web when I did some searching > > > in the archive at sourceforge: > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/quantlib/mailman/message/37892292/ > > > > > > Folks, I think such commercial sites are very unreliable > > > for such open source projects. > > > It's IMO a nightmare situation for all list subscribers, > > > especially for active participants. > > > > > > What about switching the mailing list provider? > > > Where one also can download the old postings, which IMO is not > possible at > > > this sourgeforge site. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > QuantLib-users mailing list > Qua...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/quantlib-users > |
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From: U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> - 2023-09-12 08:13:50
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Luigi, on last Friday I gave you a private "gmail" address (we...@gm...), and not even there is any mail from you. Ie. the sender's (yours) and recipients mail servers both are the same gmail server(s), and it still could not deliver the mail from you. This indicates to me that the gmail server(s) must be buggy. U.Mutlu wrote on 09/10/23 12:39: > Luigi, your below posting of today morning as well I did not > receive but found only in the archive. > > Normally in case of such problems the sending mail server tries to > resend it later, but your mail server seems not to try to resend it. > > Look what google says at > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6596#zippy=%2Crecipient-server-did-not-accept-our-requests > > > It says "Try sending the email again later.", ie. the user has to do it > manually. That's very funny :-) > > " > "Recipient server did not accept our requests" > Why your message bounced > You'll see this error message if Gmail can’t connect to your recipient’s email > server. > > What you can do > The problem usually goes away quickly without you doing anything. Try sending > the email again later. > > If you keep getting the error: > > Check if there are any mistakes in the recipient's email address. > Contact the customer support team of your recipient's email provider. > If you got this error while emailing someone at your work, school, or other > organization, contact your administrator. > " > > I checked my server, but could not find anything related in the logs. > I now have disabled IPv6 as I don't need it on that server, and rebooted the > server. > I will also contact my hosting provider about this problem. Thx. > > > > Luigi B. <lui...@gm...> on 2023-09-10 07:12:54 wrote > > > > I don't think the problem is in the mailing list. I was replying to your > > address directly, not through the mailing list, and I've been getting > > warnings all week like the one below. The same happened when I replied to > > the private email you sent to me. It seems to me the emails were all sent, > > but it's your server that's not behaving. > > > > Luigi > > Message not delivered > > There was a problem delivering your message to *um...@mu...*. See the > > technical details below. > > LEARN MORE <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720> > > The response was: > > > > The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more at > > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [mail.mutluit.com. > > 195.201.130.20: timed out] [mutluit.com. 195.201.130.20: timed out] > > > > On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:33 PM U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> wrote: > > > > > I today learned that some of the recent mails posted in this mailing list > > > did not make to my email client. > > > For example the following posting by Jonathan S. on 2023-09-05 12:53:12 > > > I only saw today on the web when I did some searching > > > in the archive at sourceforge: > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/quantlib/mailman/message/37892292/ > > > > > > Folks, I think such commercial sites are very unreliable > > > for such open source projects. > > > It's IMO a nightmare situation for all list subscribers, > > > especially for active participants. > > > > > > What about switching the mailing list provider? > > > Where one also can download the old postings, which IMO is not possible at > > > this sourgeforge site. > |
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From: Luigi B. <lui...@gm...> - 2023-09-12 12:15:48
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You didn't receive any emails to your email address because I didn't write them. I've never received your email telling me of your gmail address, or possibly I misplaced it. Please try writing to me from your gmail address. As a general rule, I find it unlikely that the millions of users of gmail around the world never noticed that it's dropping mails, especially as it's only when I write to you that I get messages like this: [image: Error Icon] Delivery incomplete There was a temporary problem delivering your message to *um...@mu...*. Gmail will retry for 20 more hours. You'll be notified if the delivery fails permanently. LEARN MORE <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720> The response was: The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more at https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [mail.mutluit.com. 195.201.130.20: timed out] [mutluit.com. 195.201.130.20: timed out] On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:13 AM U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> wrote: > Luigi, on last Friday I gave you a private "gmail" address ( > we...@gm...), > and not even there is any mail from you. > > Ie. the sender's (yours) and recipients mail servers both > are the same gmail server(s), and it still could not deliver > the mail from you. > > This indicates to me that the gmail server(s) must be buggy. > > > U.Mutlu wrote on 09/10/23 12:39: > > Luigi, your below posting of today morning as well I did not > > receive but found only in the archive. > > > > Normally in case of such problems the sending mail server tries to > > resend it later, but your mail server seems not to try to resend it. > > > > Look what google says at > > > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6596#zippy=%2Crecipient-server-did-not-accept-our-requests > > > > > > It says "Try sending the email again later.", ie. the user has to do it > > manually. That's very funny :-) > > > > " > > "Recipient server did not accept our requests" > > Why your message bounced > > You'll see this error message if Gmail can’t connect to your recipient’s > email > > server. > > > > What you can do > > The problem usually goes away quickly without you doing anything. Try > sending > > the email again later. > > > > If you keep getting the error: > > > > Check if there are any mistakes in the recipient's email address. > > Contact the customer support team of your recipient's email provider. > > If you got this error while emailing someone at your work, school, or > other > > organization, contact your administrator. > > " > > > > I checked my server, but could not find anything related in the logs. > > I now have disabled IPv6 as I don't need it on that server, and rebooted > the > > server. > > I will also contact my hosting provider about this problem. Thx. > > > > > > > > Luigi B. <lui...@gm...> on 2023-09-10 07:12:54 wrote > > > > > > I don't think the problem is in the mailing list. I was replying to > your > > > address directly, not through the mailing list, and I've been getting > > > warnings all week like the one below. The same happened when I > replied to > > > the private email you sent to me. It seems to me the emails were all > sent, > > > but it's your server that's not behaving. > > > > > > Luigi > > > Message not delivered > > > There was a problem delivering your message to *um...@mu...*. See the > > > technical details below. > > > LEARN MORE <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720> > > > The response was: > > > > > > The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn > more at > > > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [mail.mutluit.com. > > > 195.201.130.20: timed out] [mutluit.com. 195.201.130.20: timed out] > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 9:33 PM U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> wrote: > > > > > > > I today learned that some of the recent mails posted in this > mailing list > > > > did not make to my email client. > > > > For example the following posting by Jonathan S. on 2023-09-05 > 12:53:12 > > > > I only saw today on the web when I did some searching > > > > in the archive at sourceforge: > > > > https://sourceforge.net/p/quantlib/mailman/message/37892292/ > > > > > > > > Folks, I think such commercial sites are very unreliable > > > > for such open source projects. > > > > It's IMO a nightmare situation for all list subscribers, > > > > especially for active participants. > > > > > > > > What about switching the mailing list provider? > > > > Where one also can download the old postings, which IMO is not > possible at > > > > this sourgeforge site. > > > > > |
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From: U.Mutlu <um...@mu...> - 2023-09-12 14:15:54
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Dear Luigi & list, thx, I think now the problem has been found and also fixed as follows: We had in our firewall on the server some IPs and IP ranges blocked b/c of massive hacking and DoS attempts coming from them sometime in the past. It seems that now the gmail servers are using some of these addresses... :-) After removing them from the firewall it now happily works again! Sorry for the unnecessary bandwith this problem has caused in the list. Luigi Ballabio wrote on 09/12/23 14:15: > You didn't receive any emails to your email address because I didn't write > them. I've never received your email telling me of your gmail address, or > possibly I misplaced it. Please try writing to me from your gmail address. > > As a general rule, I find it unlikely that the millions of users of gmail > around the world never noticed that it's dropping mails, especially as it's > only when I write to you that I get messages like this: > Error Icon > > > Delivery incomplete > > There was a temporary problem delivering your message to *um...@mu...*. > Gmail will retry for 20 more hours. You'll be notified if the delivery fails > permanently. > LEARN MORE <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720> > > The response was: > > The recipient server did not accept our requests to connect. Learn more at > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7720 [mail.mutluit.com > <http://mail.mutluit.com/>. 195.201.130.20 <http://195.201.130.20/>: timed > out] [mutluit.com <http://mutluit.com/>. 195.201.130.20 > <http://195.201.130.20/>: timed out] > > > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 10:13 AM U.Mutlu <um...@mu... > <mailto:um...@mu...>> wrote: > > Luigi, on last Friday I gave you a private "gmail" address > (we...@gm... <mailto:we...@gm...>), > and not even there is any mail from you. > > Ie. the sender's (yours) and recipients mail servers both > are the same gmail server(s), and it still could not deliver > the mail from you. > > This indicates to me that the gmail server(s) must be buggy. ... |
