Re: [Quantlib-users] Drift adjustment in Jamshidian Engine and HW Prcoess

[Philippe H. <phi...@ex...>]

Hi Peter.
I am going back to this semi-dated thread. My question is what
measure/numeraire is the drift adjustment in the HW engine compatible with,
if any? In other words, if I price say a swaption via Monte-Carlo
simulation, and say I evaluation my cash flows with the discount factor as
numeraire, i.e. I use swap.NPV() to value the forward swap on each path, I
overprice the option versus closed-form Jamshidian. I think swap.NPV() is
consistent with a money market account as numeraire, so my question is
whether I am still supposed to "deflate" the swap.NPV() to satisfy no
arbitrage? I thought such deflation typically takes place as an additional
drift adjustment that needs to be calibrated, but my question is whether
this is already done or not in the HW engine for DF as numeraire, or if
there is none and it needs to be done?

Philippe Hatstadt


On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 1:47 PM Peter Caspers <pca...@gm...>
wrote:

> I think this is expected, according to Brigo Mercurio Formula (3.37)
> for the mean of the short rate at t (conditional on F_s with s = 0,
> i.e. the unconditional mean) is
>
> r(0) exp(-at) + alpha(t) - alpha(0) exp(-at) = alpha(t) = f(0,t) +
> sigma^2 / (2 a^2) ( 1 - exp(- at) ) ^2
>
> because alpha(0) = r(0) and so the first and last summand cancel out.
> Plugging in sigma = 0.1 and a = 0.1 that means that E( r( 30 ) ) =
> 0.05 + 0.4514... = 0.5014.... This is all including the term
> responsible for the fit to the initial flat curve at 5%.  And by the
> way, I don't think you can disable this part of the drift in
> HullWhiteProcess.
>
> Also, I think sigma = 0.1 is an extremely high value, maybe on purpose
> for the sake of the example?
>
>
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 at 17:44, Philippe Hatstadt
> <phi...@ex...> wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I have a follow-up question on the drift issue.
> > I was experimenting with the Hull-White implementation from the QuantLib
> Cookbook, and interestingly, in Chapter 15, they build a flat curve with a
> forward rate of 5%, via:
> > spot_curve = ql.FlatForward(todays_date,
> ql.QuoteHandle(ql.SimpleQuote(forward_rate)), day_count)
> >
> > The HW parameters are sigma=10% and a=10%, and the HW engine is built
> via:
> >
> > hw_process = ql.HullWhiteProcess(spot_curve_handle, a, sigma)
> >
> > They then proceed to generate paths of the short term rate, and they
> demonstrate that the simulated rate converges to the theoretical expected
> forward rate f(0,t<T) but the graph of such expected forward is not flat at
> 5%, instead it is monotonously increasing from 5% to as high as 50% after
> 30 years. So it very much looks like the paths of rates that they show are
> not drift adjusted otherwise the expected path should be flat at 5%.
> > So I'm unsure what is going on? Is there an optional argument in the
> hw_process call to do the drift adjustment or not?
> >
> > Philippe Hatstadt
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 9:09 AM Peter Caspers <pca...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Philippe,
> >>
> >> the Jamshidian engine uses a) discount bond prices conditional on the
> >> state of the model (i.e. the short rate in the case of the Hull-White
> >> model) and b) zero bond option prices in the model to come up with a
> >> model swaption price. It retrieves this information via the
> >> discountBond() and discountBondOption() methods in the
> >> OneFactorAffineModel interface. The methods account for the adjustment
> >> term theta(t) in the Hull-White model SDE already, there is nothing
> >> that the engine needs to do in addition to that. I don't know if that
> >> answers your question?
> >>
> >> The HullWhiteProcess also takes into account the adjustment to the
> >> initial curve already. To see that you can look into the
> >> implementation of HullWhiteProcess::drift()
> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/lballabio/QuantLib/blob/master/ql/processes/hullwhiteprocess.cpp#L38
> >>
> >> which coincides with e.g. Brigo Mercurio, Interest Rate Models, Theory
> >> and Practice, Formulas (3.33) and (3.34) observing that in this
> >> context
> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/lballabio/QuantLib/blob/master/ql/processes/ornsteinuhlenbeckprocess.hpp#L90
> >>
> >> level_ is zero, speed_ is the Hull-White mean reversion parameter and
> >> x stands for the short rate at time t.
> >>
> >> Does that make sense?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 at 12:47, philippe hatstadt via QuantLib-users
> >> <qua...@li...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Is there any information about how the Jamshidian engine does the
> drift adjustment to match the initial curve for the Hull White model?
> >> > If I want to use the QL HW Process in a MC model, I assume II have to
> do the drift adjustment myself, or is there existing QL functionality to do
> that?
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Philippe Hatstadt
> >> > +1-203-252-0408
> >> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/philippe-hatstadt
> >> >
> >> >
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