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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-10-09 20:12:21
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Okay, the CARE Tcode has been recomitted to SVN. Beware that some things (eg .project files) may have appeared in the process. Hopefully this won't cause you too much pain in eclipse (if you use it). I've not built this yet, so the usual disclaimers apply as to whether it builds successfully: I'll address that on Monday. But my latest code is in SVN now! Dan. |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-10-09 15:40:31
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Dear all, In sorting out the SVN, I will have to break the minibix source tree for some time. You can still test against qtitools.caret.cam.ac.uk . In general, it's a good idea to test against this site whenever possible, particularly when there's a discrepancy or unexplained strangeness. Not only for the code version issues, but because we will get a full stack trace and error log, which will help track down the bug. We will try to cut tags in future when we do updates to this site. Dan. |
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From: James A. <j.a...@ki...> - 2009-06-24 16:16:56
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Hi, When using Validatr I am getting the following error: Cannot find attribute: assessmentItem:empty->templateProcessing->setTemplateValue:t1->customOperator.class I am trying to set a MathAssess element. Can anyone help? James Jonathon Hare wrote: > Hi James, > > Wow, you must be using a really low resolution screen - I have no > problems fitting the menu on ;-) > > Anyway, you might want to try updating from the svn and building > yourself a new version of validatr, and see if the my attempted fix > works for you... > > Let me know how it goes. > > Jon > > > On 17 Jun 2009, at 11:02, James Annesley wrote: > >> Hi >> >> It has come to my attention that there is a problem with Validatr. >> >> The problem is as follows: >> When ADDING elements to a TemplateProcessing (for example), one right >> clicks an element, chooses Add, selects a new Element, e.g. >> SetTemplateValue. >> >> Then you right click Add, and add an Expression, the list produced is >> very long and disappears off the bottom of the screen. There is no way >> to access the hidden list items. This is a known bug with the Java >> JPopupMenu (http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4503727). >> >> The suggested fix is to use a dialog instead >> (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/493247/how-to-create-a-scrollable-jpopupmenu/494047). >> >> >> I had a look at doing this and the task is not trivial. This has >> implications for Mathqurate because Validatr is used. This problem means >> Mathqurate cannot fully support FELTAR until a resolution is found. >> >> Is there resources to fix Validatr? Please can I have some comments and >> ideas about the next steps? >> >> James >> >> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >> Security System. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial >> Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited >> royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing >> server and web deployment. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects >> _______________________________________________ >> Qtitools-mathassess mailing list >> Qti...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qtitools-mathassess > > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. |
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From: James A. <j.a...@ki...> - 2009-06-17 14:13:55
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Hi, Something else with Validatr. I don't seem to be able to create a customOperator like the following: templateProcessing->setTemplateValue-> <customOperator ma:syntax="MAXIMA" class="org.qtitools.mathassess.ScriptRule"> </customOperator> I get the following error (see attachment) Loading in an existing one is ok (see attached example). James James Annesley wrote: > Hi, > > Well, 1280x1024 ain't tiny, but thanks. That is great. Could you do > something else? I need to stop Validatr automatically expanding all tree > branches. Lines 166-167 of TreePanel.java do it. Would it be possible to > add a configuration parameter which could switch this off or on? > Preferably this would be in the Spring xml config file. > > Regards, > > James > > > Jonathon Hare wrote: > >> Hi James, >> >> Wow, you must be using a really low resolution screen - I have no >> problems fitting the menu on ;-) >> >> Anyway, you might want to try updating from the svn and building >> yourself a new version of validatr, and see if the my attempted fix >> works for you... >> >> Let me know how it goes. >> >> Jon >> >> >> On 17 Jun 2009, at 11:02, James Annesley wrote: >> >> >>> Hi >>> >>> It has come to my attention that there is a problem with Validatr. >>> >>> The problem is as follows: >>> When ADDING elements to a TemplateProcessing (for example), one right >>> clicks an element, chooses Add, selects a new Element, e.g. >>> SetTemplateValue. >>> >>> Then you right click Add, and add an Expression, the list produced is >>> very long and disappears off the bottom of the screen. There is no way >>> to access the hidden list items. This is a known bug with the Java >>> JPopupMenu (http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4503727). >>> >>> The suggested fix is to use a dialog instead >>> (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/493247/how-to-create-a-scrollable-jpopupmenu/494047). >>> >>> >>> I had a look at doing this and the task is not trivial. This has >>> implications for Mathqurate because Validatr is used. This problem means >>> Mathqurate cannot fully support FELTAR until a resolution is found. >>> >>> Is there resources to fix Validatr? Please can I have some comments and >>> ideas about the next steps? >>> >>> James >>> >>> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >>> Security System. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial >>> Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited >>> royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing >>> server and web deployment. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qtitools-mathassess mailing list >>> Qti...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qtitools-mathassess >>> >> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >> Security System. >> > > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Qtitools-mathassess mailing list > Qti...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qtitools-mathassess > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. |
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From: James A. <j.a...@ki...> - 2009-06-17 13:01:49
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Hi, Well, 1280x1024 ain't tiny, but thanks. That is great. Could you do something else? I need to stop Validatr automatically expanding all tree branches. Lines 166-167 of TreePanel.java do it. Would it be possible to add a configuration parameter which could switch this off or on? Preferably this would be in the Spring xml config file. Regards, James Jonathon Hare wrote: > Hi James, > > Wow, you must be using a really low resolution screen - I have no > problems fitting the menu on ;-) > > Anyway, you might want to try updating from the svn and building > yourself a new version of validatr, and see if the my attempted fix > works for you... > > Let me know how it goes. > > Jon > > > On 17 Jun 2009, at 11:02, James Annesley wrote: > >> Hi >> >> It has come to my attention that there is a problem with Validatr. >> >> The problem is as follows: >> When ADDING elements to a TemplateProcessing (for example), one right >> clicks an element, chooses Add, selects a new Element, e.g. >> SetTemplateValue. >> >> Then you right click Add, and add an Expression, the list produced is >> very long and disappears off the bottom of the screen. There is no way >> to access the hidden list items. This is a known bug with the Java >> JPopupMenu (http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4503727). >> >> The suggested fix is to use a dialog instead >> (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/493247/how-to-create-a-scrollable-jpopupmenu/494047). >> >> >> I had a look at doing this and the task is not trivial. This has >> implications for Mathqurate because Validatr is used. This problem means >> Mathqurate cannot fully support FELTAR until a resolution is found. >> >> Is there resources to fix Validatr? Please can I have some comments and >> ideas about the next steps? >> >> James >> >> This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email >> Security System. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial >> Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited >> royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing >> server and web deployment. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects >> _______________________________________________ >> Qtitools-mathassess mailing list >> Qti...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qtitools-mathassess > > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. |
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From: Jonathon H. <js...@ec...> - 2009-06-17 11:29:25
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Hi James, Wow, you must be using a really low resolution screen - I have no problems fitting the menu on ;-) Anyway, you might want to try updating from the svn and building yourself a new version of validatr, and see if the my attempted fix works for you... Let me know how it goes. Jon On 17 Jun 2009, at 11:02, James Annesley wrote: > Hi > > It has come to my attention that there is a problem with Validatr. > > The problem is as follows: > When ADDING elements to a TemplateProcessing (for example), one right > clicks an element, chooses Add, selects a new Element, e.g. > SetTemplateValue. > > Then you right click Add, and add an Expression, the list produced is > very long and disappears off the bottom of the screen. There is no way > to access the hidden list items. This is a known bug with the Java > JPopupMenu (http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do? > bug_id=4503727). > > The suggested fix is to use a dialog instead > (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/493247/how-to-create-a-scrollable-jpopupmenu/494047 > ). > > I had a look at doing this and the task is not trivial. This has > implications for Mathqurate because Validatr is used. This problem > means > Mathqurate cannot fully support FELTAR until a resolution is found. > > Is there resources to fix Validatr? Please can I have some comments > and > ideas about the next steps? > > James > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial > Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited > royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing > server and web deployment. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects > _______________________________________________ > Qtitools-mathassess mailing list > Qti...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qtitools-mathassess |
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From: James A. <j.a...@ki...> - 2009-06-17 10:02:54
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Hi It has come to my attention that there is a problem with Validatr. The problem is as follows: When ADDING elements to a TemplateProcessing (for example), one right clicks an element, chooses Add, selects a new Element, e.g. SetTemplateValue. Then you right click Add, and add an Expression, the list produced is very long and disappears off the bottom of the screen. There is no way to access the hidden list items. This is a known bug with the Java JPopupMenu (http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4503727). The suggested fix is to use a dialog instead (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/493247/how-to-create-a-scrollable-jpopupmenu/494047). I had a look at doing this and the task is not trivial. This has implications for Mathqurate because Validatr is used. This problem means Mathqurate cannot fully support FELTAR until a resolution is found. Is there resources to fix Validatr? Please can I have some comments and ideas about the next steps? James This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. |
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From: James A. <j.a...@ki...> - 2009-05-21 12:03:22
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Hi All, This seems to be working ok. The only thing I would add as that the repository requires the libraries to Releases and not Snapshots. But this suits us because we agreed to harmonise on release versions at a previous meeting. Thanks Jon. Best regards, James Jonathon Hare wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I've just had a need to setup a proper (in the sense that it is both > readable, and writeable (to those who have access)) maven repository > for my new projects and whilst doing so have also created one for > qtitools. > > The repository is available at: http://maven.qtitools.org > > If you want to USE artefacts from the repository in your projects you > need to add the following to your pom and specify the dependencies as > normal: > ... > <repositories> > <repository> > <id>qtitools maven repository</id> > <url>http://maven.qtitools.org/</url> > </repository> > </repositories> > ... > > > If you want to DEPLOY your own artefacts so others can use them, then > there are a couple of steps: > > First, add the following server spec to the <servers> part of your > maven settings.xml file (http://maven.apache.org/settings.html#Servers): > > ... > <server> > <id>qtitools</id> > <username>qtitools-deployment</username> > <password>qtit00ls.0rg</password> > </server> > ... > > Secondly, add the following to the pom file of the artefact you wish > to deploy: > > ... > <distributionManagement> > <repository> > <id>qtitools</id> > <name>QTITools Repository</name> > <url>http://maven.qtitools.org</url> > </repository> > </distributionManagement> > ... > > Thirdly, run the following command (from the directory containing the > pom): > > mvn deploy > > That's it! The artefact should now be deployed on the server :) You > can also deploy individual files (i.e. if you have a dependency that > isn't already in some maven repository) using the mvn > deploy:deploy-file command (see > http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-deploy-plugin/usage.html) > > > Let me know if you try it or have any problems... > > Cheers, > > Jon > > > > > > > > This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email > Security System. This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. |
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From: Jonathon H. <js...@ec...> - 2009-04-16 16:49:05
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Hi everyone, I've just had a need to setup a proper (in the sense that it is both readable, and writeable (to those who have access)) maven repository for my new projects and whilst doing so have also created one for qtitools. The repository is available at: http://maven.qtitools.org If you want to USE artefacts from the repository in your projects you need to add the following to your pom and specify the dependencies as normal: ... <repositories> <repository> <id>qtitools maven repository</id> <url>http://maven.qtitools.org/</url> </repository> </repositories> ... If you want to DEPLOY your own artefacts so others can use them, then there are a couple of steps: First, add the following server spec to the <servers> part of your maven settings.xml file (http://maven.apache.org/settings.html#Servers): ... <server> <id>qtitools</id> <username>qtitools-deployment</username> <password>qtit00ls.0rg</password> </server> ... Secondly, add the following to the pom file of the artefact you wish to deploy: ... <distributionManagement> <repository> <id>qtitools</id> <name>QTITools Repository</name> <url>http://maven.qtitools.org</url> </repository> </distributionManagement> ... Thirdly, run the following command (from the directory containing the pom): mvn deploy That's it! The artefact should now be deployed on the server :) You can also deploy individual files (i.e. if you have a dependency that isn't already in some maven repository) using the mvn deploy:deploy- file command (see http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-deploy-plugin/usage.html) Let me know if you try it or have any problems... Cheers, Jon |
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From: <da...@ca...> - 2009-03-23 09:07:59
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I'm afraid I'll not be able to make this morning's management meeting: I'm contactable by email this morning, though. Dan. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-03-16 09:36:54
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Dear all, I now also have meetings 2pm-4pm today (Monday). Again, voicemail is probably best in that period. Dan. |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-03-14 17:36:16
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Dear all, I promised details of when I'd be around Monday and Tuesday as soon as they became concrete. That's not happened, so I am going to convey the vagueness in as much detail as I can. I will be in the office, but not at my desk, between 10 and 12:30 on Monday. If you leave voicemail I should be able to answer at one-ish. On Tuesday, I'm busy from 4 onwards, and also /probably/ for a few hours in the morning, provisionally from 10:30-13:00. This meeting will be offsite, and is liable to move or be cancelled. I'll have a better idea after my 10am meeting on Monday. Again, voicemail is probably the best way to be in touch. If there are any changes, or bugfixes to be made to Minibix I can do that on the afternoon of Monday, if you let me know by about 2pm. I'll not be able to make any fixes between now and then. Good luck with the trials. My number is 01223 765398. We have caller ID, but it's not 100% reliable, so if you give me your number in the message, that will help me ring back. Dan. |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-03-11 16:42:12
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James, I think I missed out on a bit of this conversation. Is it right that you have some jars to put onto www2.caret.cam.ac.uk? If you drop me them off, I can put them up. In the long term, though, we should probably look into hosting the repository on qtitools.org? Dan. |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-03-11 16:33:11
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Dear all,
Just a quick correction and further details on test ingest. You send to
minibix via a REST POST command. You need to specify deposit type [1]
which should be /imscp/ (not /test/, as previously suggested). You also
need to give the file itself [2]. You will receive a list of "tickets"
(id's) corresponding to the ingested test and all its questions. The
test will be the highest valued of these numbers.
There is a form (at [3]) which simulates this process and invokes the
webservice. Try it out, and then all you need to do is duplicate it!
To retrieve an item (eg test) go to the base URL [4] with XXX replaced
by the ticket number.
Dan.
[1] with query parameter key
http://www.caret.cam.ac.uk/minibix/metadata/depositType
[2] with query parameter key
file
[3] http://qtitools.caret.cam.ac.uk/qtibank-webserv/TestPost.html
[4] http://qtitools.caret.cam.ac.uk/qtibank-webserv/deposits/all/XXX
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-03-11 16:16:49
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Minibix has now been updated to allow uploading, downloading, and searching for tests, and is live. Please check that the existing facilities still work, particularly test uploading via the webservice (MathAssess). The mechanism is exactly the same as for items. Minibix detects a test from its metadata and routes it appropriately. The deposit type (if specified) is not "imscp" but "test". I'll just work through a manual webservice example, and forward the info shortly. Dan. |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-03-10 18:39:39
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I found one! I eventually found a test in the QTI 2.1 spec documents. I'll use test_package_minfiles, if nobody objects? Dan. |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-03-10 18:21:49
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Sorry to bother you all, but does anyone have a simple example test as a CP with its items. I'm having real trouble finding one and it's holding me up. The IMS site is draining vast amounts of time (and will to live) and I can't find anything out there on the web. If someone has one to hand, or else better googling skills than me, could find one, I'd be really grateful. Dan. |
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From: Gary B W. <gb...@ec...> - 2009-03-09 09:25:35
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Hi Folks Do we have a skype call today Monday 9th? Regards Gary Dr Gary Wills Learning Societies Lab School of Electronics and Computer Science University of Southampton SO17 1BJ +44 (0) 23 8059 2831 |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-03-05 21:27:32
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Dear all, As you've probably guessed by now, I'm having problems with test storage. I'll not upload the buggy version to the live site and risk endangering the testing. When you're done, though, if you could drop me a line, I'll take a look. By the way, I'll not be able to make the technical call tomorrow (emergency leave), but drop me a line if necessary, and I'll be in on Monday. Dan. |
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From: Sue M. <su...@el...> - 2009-03-05 16:47:08
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Hi David, Thanks for putting this together, we should talk about this at tomorrow's call. It would be nice to have user-friendly feedback, especially where authors and students are concerned... Cheers Sue Dr Sue Milne ELandWeb Ltd Company Registration No. SC312309 Registered Office: 54 Grampian Way, Bearsden, Glasgow, G61 4RW Tel: +44(0)1419431307 , Mob: +44(0)7780995748 Company website: http://www.elandweb.co.uk This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return this message by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. >-----Original Message----- >From: David McKain [mailto:dm...@ph...] >Sent: 05 March 2009 14:06 >To: Sue Milne >Cc: 'Gary B Wills'; 'Jonathon Hare'; 'Leslie Fletcher'; 'Lester >Gilbert'; 'Graham Smith' >Subject: Re: MANum01 > >Sue Milne wrote: >> Hi Gary, >> >> I was thinking of something along the lines of "The system is having >trouble >> interpreting your Maxima input; please check your code.", etc., where >> exceptions are thrown because of authoring errors, and similarly for >student >> input. If a line number can be reported, so much the better... > >Hi folks, > >I've knocked up a quick Wiki page that hopefully enumerates all of the >different failures that are possible in Maths questions, along with some >notes on how things currently stand. > >https://www.wiki.ed.ac.uk/display/Physics/QTI-CAS+Failure+Handling > >This might be a useful basis for further discussion about future >improvements. > >Cheers, >D. > >-- >David McKain, School of Physics and Astronomy e-Learning Group >http://www.ph.ed.ac.uk/elearning/ > >The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in >Scotland, with registration number SC005336. |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-02-20 18:08:45
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Dear James, I'm not really a maven expert myself, I usually ask other people about it. The best person to talk to is probably Raymond, in the first instance. I'll send him a mail. Dan. |
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From: James A. <j.a...@ki...> - 2009-02-20 17:52:26
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Dear all, I would like to announce the initial commit of Mathqurate code to the Sourceforge repository. I hope this demonstrates good progress has been made. Dan, can I have your help in writing a Maven script? Can we also discuss synchronisation of Maven repositories between Southampton and Cambridge? I think the MathAssessTools commit would benefit if the binary libraries are removed. I would like to see them in a Maven repository. We will need a Maven script here too. Best regards, James This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security System. |
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From: Wills, Dr G. <gb...@ec...> - 2009-02-20 08:48:45
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Hi Folks Having seen Dan's e-mail reminds me, we are not expecting to attend these conference call. Regards Gary Dr Gary Wills Learning Societies Lab School of Electronics and Computer Science University of Southampton SO17 1BJ +44 (0) 23 8059 2831 -----Original Message----- From: Dan Sheppard [mailto:dan...@ca...] Sent: 19 February 2009 22:40 To: qti...@li... Subject: [Qtitools-mathassess] Technical meeting Dear all, I'm afraid I'll probably not be able to attend the technical call tomorrow, as we are interviewing candidates. It's all a bit complex, so I might be able to pop out at two, but it's looking unlikely. Do keep in touch via email: if anyone wants a chat re minibix, I can Skype them at other points during the day. Dan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H _______________________________________________ Qtitools-mathassess mailing list Qti...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qtitools-mathassess |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-02-19 23:24:11
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Dear all, I'm afraid I'll probably not be able to attend the technical call tomorrow, as we are interviewing candidates. It's all a bit complex, so I might be able to pop out at two, but it's looking unlikely. Do keep in touch via email: if anyone wants a chat re minibix, I can Skype them at other points during the day. Dan. |
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From: Dan S. <dan...@ca...> - 2009-02-13 18:09:31
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James Annesley wrote: > Mathqrate is now importing, exporting and editing items from Minibix. Excellent! Is all the ontology stuff working okay? Dan. |
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