[Qingu-developers] [Fwd: Re: results of last town meeting]

[Jago <ja...@no...>]

Hi,

I looked at the link and tried to understand what the engine does and 
what it can do better than our current template system.

A good code example is here: 
http://www.phpsavant.com/yawiki/index.php?area=Savant2&page=StartExample

This code is not shorter than our current template system and it does 
not offer any additional functionality. As in our template system you 
have to create an object, assign the values that are dynamic and then 
create the output. Since we write all code to a buffer and print this 
buffer after all operations are done there is also no performance 
problem. Even in case of an error, where we can dynamically decide how 
to indicate the error. One advantage is that you can pass an array with 
the values that should be replaced. But this could be easily added in 
our system as well.

Joerg, could you please share yiur thoughts why you think savant is 
better than our system?

And the HTML code is not seperated from the PHP code, what I really dislike.

Kind regards.
Joern / Jago / sutester

Ragin schrieb:
> I forgot the link... :)
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> http://phpsavant.com/yawiki/
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> Greetings
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> On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:53:22 +0100, Steffen Schopf <ba...@no...> wrote:
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>> in today's session Jörn and I discussed some php template frameworks. 
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>> There is an iX Special Web 2.0 available where some php template 
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>> first. - The Integrated Templates IT[X] of the PEAR project. But after a 
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>> review we decided that this would bring no advantage to us, because it 
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>> does basically the same as our template engine. There is an interesting 
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>> http://www.ulf-wendel.de/projekte/itx/vergleich.php (only in German). It 
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>> In the web we found another one called PRADO. It is hosted on 
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>> sourceforge.net and has a website www.pradosoft.com (a quick start is 
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>> http://www.pradosoft.com/demos/quickstart/?page=GettingStarted.HelloWorld 
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>> ). This might be interessting to us. Further investigation is required, 
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>> since we did not have the time today. It seems to work similarly to 
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>> Microsoft's ASP.NET.
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>> Are there any more comments on that topic?
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>> Regards
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>> Novawars - The War Is Out There
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>> irc://de.quakenet.org:6668 #novawars
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>> Novawars is based on Qingu technology
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>> Jago schrieb:
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>>> Hi,
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>>> for those who could not attend and for those who attended but can't 
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>>> remember here a short summary of the last meeting.
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>>> It was decided to use the proposal from Ragin for the graphical 
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>>> framework. But the info about the installed graphic package should be 
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>>> stored/read to/from a cookie instead of a difficult file read. This 
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>>> saves coding effort and bewares of Javascript incompatibilities.
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>>> Also the concept of frames is not needed anymore because most browsers 
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>>> cache the pictures today and broadband connections are widely used. In 
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>>> addition the transfer amount that is saved is minimal for the server and
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>>> can be reduced if necessary by using zip'ed transfer mode if possible.
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>>> A task until 11/15 for everybody on this list is to look into available 
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>>> list. At 11/15 a decision will be made, which of the frameworks will be 
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>>> used. Due to limited workforce the main overview page and the archive 
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>>> (which will be rewritten next) will be the demo parts in the game to 
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>>> show the new framework.
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>>> And now to the work that was assigned to single persons:
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>>> write config.inc.php to prepare for automatic setup -> Badman (until
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>> 11/15)
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>>> rewrite archive to object oriented structure -> Orkala (until end of
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>> year)
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>>> If I forgot something, please add it.
>>> Llap sutester
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