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[q-lang-users] sum not working (x86_64 / linux)

[Ethan G. <ee...@fa...>]

Hiyos. I just installed Q today, submitting a Source Mage GNU/Linux
'spell' for it, so that's one more distro that carries Q.

At least one function, sum, is not working. The manual gives the
following example:
==> sum [1..123456]
7620753696

I entered something similar with different results:
==> sum [1..100]
sum
[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100]

simpler uses of sum do not work either:
==> sum 1 2
sum 1 2

The splash text may be of interest:
0 ethan@vardo q-pure (0) $ q
def: error loading module
Warning: 141 unresolved external symbols
  ____
 / __ \    Q interpreter version 7.11 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
/ /_/ /    Copyright (c) 1991-2008 by Albert Graef
\___\_\    http://q-lang.sourceforge.net

This software is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public
License version 2 or later; type `copying' for details.
! File def, line 77: Value mismatch in definition

==> 

What is this module "def"? There is no such file either in the source
tree or installed. I assume a syntax error leading to a bad import
statement, but how can a nonexistant file have line numbers?

Testing the install did not produce anything useful:
0 ethan@vardo q-7.11 (0) $ q test.q 
Segmentation fault


-- 
wow.. wondering how to make it more general and less hard-coded is making my head hurt. that's a good sign that it's my code

Re: [q-lang-users] sum not working (x86_64 / linux)

[Ethan G. <ee...@fa...>]

On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:21 +0100, "Ethan Grammatikidis"
<ee...@fa...> wrote:
> Hiyos. I just installed Q today, submitting a Source Mage GNU/Linux
> 'spell' for it, so that's one more distro that carries Q.
> 
> At least one function, sum, is not working. The manual gives the
> following example:
> ==> sum [1..123456]
> 7620753696
> 
> I entered something similar with different results:
> ==> sum [1..100]
> sum
> [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100]
> 
> simpler uses of sum do not work either:
> ==> sum 1 2
> sum 1 2
> 
> The splash text may be of interest:
> 0 ethan@vardo q-pure (0) $ q
> def: error loading module
> Warning: 141 unresolved external symbols
>   ____
>  / __ \    Q interpreter version 7.11 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
> / /_/ /    Copyright (c) 1991-2008 by Albert Graef
> \___\_\    http://q-lang.sourceforge.net
> 
> This software is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public
> License version 2 or later; type `copying' for details.
> ! File def, line 77: Value mismatch in definition
> 
> ==> 
> 
> What is this module "def"? There is no such file either in the source
> tree or installed. I assume a syntax error leading to a bad import
> statement, but how can a nonexistant file have line numbers?
> 
> Testing the install did not produce anything useful:
> 0 ethan@vardo q-7.11 (0) $ q test.q 
> Segmentation fault
> 

A little extra info: As far as I can tell, anything defined in stdlib.q
is unavailable.

Line 77 is the definition of curry:
public curry F;
curry F X Y             = F (X,Y);

The code immediately before surprises me:
public cst X;
cst X _                 = X;

Whyfore the underscore?

-- 
wow.. wondering how to make it more general and less hard-coded is making my head hurt. that's a good sign that it's my code

Re: [q-lang-users] sum not working (x86_64 / linux)

[Albert G. <Dr....@t-...>]

Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
> The splash text may be of interest:
> 0 ethan@vardo q-pure (0) $ q
> def: error loading module
> Warning: 141 unresolved external symbols

Hi Ethan,

Unfortunately, Q doesn't work on 64 bit systems, it was never ported to
those. You might wish to take a look at Q's successor Pure, which is
fully 64 bit compatible, has some important new features and runs
programs much faster (it also needs LLVM at build time, though):

http://pure-lang.googlecode.com/

In case you're interested, Pure has its own mailing list at:

http://groups.google.com/group/pure-lang

Cheers,
Albert

-- 
Dr. Albert Gr"af
Dept. of Music-Informatics, University of Mainz, Germany
Email:  Dr....@t-..., ag...@mu...
WWW:    http://www.musikinformatik.uni-mainz.de/ag

Re: [q-lang-users] sum not working (x86_64 / linux)

[Ethan G. <ee...@fa...>]

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:05:34 +0200
Albert Graef <Dr....@t-...> wrote:

> Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
> > The splash text may be of interest:
> > 0 ethan@vardo q-pure (0) $ q
> > def: error loading module
> > Warning: 141 unresolved external symbols
> 
> Hi Ethan,
> 
> Unfortunately, Q doesn't work on 64 bit systems, it was never ported to
> those. You might wish to take a look at Q's successor Pure, which is
> fully 64 bit compatible, has some important new features and runs
> programs much faster (it also needs LLVM at build time, though):
> 
> http://pure-lang.googlecode.com/
> 
> In case you're interested, Pure has its own mailing list at:
> 
> http://groups.google.com/group/pure-lang
> 
> Cheers,
> Albert

Cheers. I sort-of subconciously avoided Pure because LLVM requires C++, but I guess it would be more appropriate for my 64-bit box. Q starts and runs nicely on my PDA, a Sharp Zaurus running Angstrom Linux which has issues compiling and sometimes running C++ apps. You'd think 64MB would be as adequate for a little bit of light coding as it was 7 or 8 years ago, but at least for C++ it's aparently not.

-- 
Ethan Grammatikidis
The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer

Re: [q-lang-users] sum not working (x86_64 / linux)

[Albert G. <Dr....@t-...>]

Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
> Cheers. I sort-of subconciously avoided Pure because LLVM requires C++, but I guess it would be more appropriate for my 64-bit box. Q starts and runs nicely on my PDA, a Sharp Zaurus running Angstrom Linux which has issues compiling and sometimes running C++ apps. You'd think 64MB would be as adequate for a little bit of light coding as it was 7 or 8 years ago, but at least for C++ it's aparently not.

Well, I guess you're right. Compiling C stuff on the Z works all right,
but for getting any substantial piece of C++ software going, you'll need
a cross compiler.

Alas, my Z doesn't get much use anymore, the screen is too small for my
eyes. I do run Pure on my eeepc, though, it works great there.

Albert


-- 
Dr. Albert Gr"af
Dept. of Music-Informatics, University of Mainz, Germany
Email:  Dr....@t-..., ag...@mu...
WWW:    http://www.musikinformatik.uni-mainz.de/ag