Re: [PyWrapper-devel] Libraries distribution in PyWrapper

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Regarding ant...

I remember that I had to install ant to be able to install another
software and I did not like this. Probably is included in most Linux
distros, but in mac os x is not.

I think I prefer the typical:

./configure --with-mysql=3D/usr/local/mysql/lib
make
make install

And nothing special for mac os x.

Cheers.

On 8/3/06, Javier de la Torre <ja...@gm...> wrote:
> I have it ready... I have a simple installer using just the shell...
>
> I have put it under:
> http://www.pywrapper.org/PyWrapperInstaller.zip
>
> Uncompress it and adapt the line 10:
> ./configure --prefix=3D/Users/javi/workspace/temp/PyWrapper/python
>
> And adapt it to wherever you have uncompress the file (adapt only
> until python!!)
>
> What this package does is just with a single installer, install python
> 2.4 in a folder and then install all the other libraries on this
> python installation.
>
> It does not include PyWrapper at the moment, but is just for you to
> figure out. Then we have a totally controlled environment and a happy
> user becuase we haven't touched anything on their system....
>
> It takes some time to install and compile everything but I have seen
> much worst installations :D
>
> It still have pending the installation of libxml and db modules, but I
> think we can figure out how to do this by asking th user which
> database is he going to use and asking for the folder where the shared
> libraries are.
>
> For Windows I think we dont have to worry about anything, the python
> installer in Windows is not compiling!! Is just copying the files, we
> will do the same. Is the same trick I did with the installer for BPS2.
>
> Cheers.
>
> On 8/3/06, "D=F6ring, Markus" <m.d...@bg...> wrote:
> > theres make and ant. ant is newer and more powerful (I think).
> >
> > the start_server.py script is like the shell script.
> > we can modify it to accept an optional port to run under, defaulting to=
 8080 or so. good idea!
> >
> > I still dont know how db_modules will work if they depend on the instal=
lation of the target system.
> > I hope we dont ned to build python for windows ourselves. thats horribl=
e, it needs the commercial MS Visual C++ compiler.
> > http://uucode.com/texts/python-mingw/python-mingw.html
> >
> > cherrypy is needed for all webapps!
> > but you can run it behind mod_python (maybe thats broken now, but you s=
hould be able to) if you like.
> >
> > BTW, there a doc about embedding python in your application that I have=
nt read:
> > http://docs.python.org/ext/ext.html
> >
> >
> > -- Markus
> >
> >
> > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: pyw...@li...
> > > [mailto:pyw...@li...] Im
> > > Auftrag von Javier privat
> > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. August 2006 12:38
> > > An: PyWrapper Developers mailing list
> > > Betreff: Re: [PyWrapper-devel] Libraries distribution in PyWrapper
> > >
> > > Ok, in Windows is clear, I think we should provide an
> > > installer that installs everything, python and all libraries.
> > > Aditionally will be nice to have a little interface to start
> > > and stop cherrypy server if they want to use it instead of
> > > their existing server. I like it because people can try
> > > things very fast without having to configure anything.
> > >
> > > For Mac I would treat it as Linux, it is enough to have to
> > > take care of two things! I was actually thinking on a
> > > configure file that looks for dependencies of the database
> > > modules and where you can pass as arguments the location of
> > > them. Then something like build that compiles python and all
> > > libraries in our own folder, not touching anything of the
> > > host machine. Me as a user I prefer to not have to touch my
> > > python to install pywrapper, I prefer that everything stays
> > > into one single folder that I can send to the trash when I
> > > want to uninstall.
> > >
> > > And then I would have a script to start cherrypy, like the
> > > start_server.py that we have but that is a shell script and
> > > that I can pass the port where I want the server to run in.
> > >
> > > Correct me, if I am wrong, will the config tool work outside
> > > of cherrypy?
> > >
> > > Cheers.
> > >
> > > PD: What is the difference/advantages of build and ant?
> > >
> > > On 8/3/06, "D=F6ring, Markus" <m.d...@bg...> wrote:
> > > > in java for sure. In python its modules. But I saw in
> > > CheeseShop that they call it packages as well. I will rename
> > > it, good choice!
> > > >
> > > > -- Markus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > Von: pyw...@li...
> > > > > [mailto:pyw...@li...] Im Auftrag
> > > > > von Javier privat
> > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. August 2006 21:56
> > > > > An: D=F6ring, Markus
> > > > > Cc: PyWrapper Developers mailing list
> > > > > Betreff: Re: [PyWrapper-devel] Libraries distribution in PyWrappe=
r
> > > > >
> > > > > In other software I have seen calling it "packages"
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheer.s
> > > > >
> > > > > On 02/08/2006, at 14:40, D=F6ring, Markus wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > So lets include a new directory called "installer" in
> > > the project.
> > > > > > If we dont like the name we can change it later, but I cant
> > > > > think of
> > > > > > any better right now.
> > > > > > I will add some of the libs already. But remember to
> > > only use the
> > > > > > source installers, never the comiled stuff.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -- Markus
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > >> Von: pyw...@li...
> > > > > >> [mailto:pyw...@li...] Im
> > > > > Auftrag von
> > > > > >> D=F6ring, Markus
> > > > > >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. August 2006 14:31
> > > > > >> An: PyWrapper Developers mailing list; Javier privat
> > > > > >> Betreff: Re: [PyWrapper-devel] Libraries distribution in
> > > > > >> PyWrapper
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> mx.DateTime alone is also open source.
> > > > > >> http://www.egenix.com/files/python/mxDateTime.html#Copyright
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> their own kind of license, but I cant see any problem
> > > > > >> distributing
> > > > > >> it:
> > > > > >> http://www.egenix.com/files/python/mxLicense.html#Public
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -- Markus
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > >>> Von: pyw...@li...
> > > > > >>> [mailto:pyw...@li...] Im
> > > > > >> Auftrag von
> > > > > >>> Javier privat
> > > > > >>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 2. August 2006 12:24
> > > > > >>> An: PyWrapper Developers mailing list
> > > > > >>> Betreff: [PyWrapper-devel] Libraries distribution in PyWrappe=
r
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I was wondering if we could change a bit our strategy for
> > > > > deploying
> > > > > >>> PyWrapper. Right now to install it you have to install:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> 1)PyXML
> > > > > >>> 2)mxDateTime
> > > > > >>> 3)CherryPy
> > > > > >>> 4)elementtree
> > > > > >>> 5)kid
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Then you probably will also need:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> 6) libxml2
> > > > > >>> 7) a database module
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> and finally if you want BioMOBY support now I will also be
> > > > > >> requiring:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> 8) fpconst
> > > > > >>> 9) SOAPpy
> > > > > >>> 10) BioMOBY Python
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> This is getting a little bit horrible to install. I
> > > think most
> > > > > >>> of these libraries, I think actually all, can be legally
> > > > > redistributed
> > > > > >>> with other software so I was wondering if we could not embed
> > > > > >>> everything into PyWrapper.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Well, I know there are some problems. Some of these
> > > > > >> libraries need to
> > > > > >>> be compiled in unix and therefore installation is
> > > needed. But in
> > > > > >>> Windows we might be able to distribute them already
> > > > > >> compiled. In the
> > > > > >>> case of unix we can at least include them in the package
> > > > > >> and provide
> > > > > >>> an installer that install all of them into our external_lib
> > > > > >> directory.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> We can have something like /lib/external_lib folder where
> > > > > >> we include
> > > > > >>> all this stuff. Do you know what happens if we
> > > install a certain
> > > > > >>> version of a library there and the user has already the
> > > > > >> same library
> > > > > >>> installed on his python? Which one will take preference?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> And there is still the open issue of which library to use
> > > > > >> for xslt...
> > > > > >>> we are not happy with none of them and they are all
> > > difficult to
> > > > > >>> install in mac os x. Any ideas?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Cheers.
> > > > > >>>
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