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From: Dan S. <da...@gu...> - 2002-01-11 21:14:47
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>Hopefully we can produce a development environment that allows >non-programmers to build simple apps without seeing actual code. This >is a big task but would go a long way to getting PythonCard accepted by >a larger audience. I don't know if anyone ever saw my crowning software achievment, "Dan Shafer's ScriptExpert," but it was a (largely successful, I think) attempt to create a tool in which people could write scripts by clicking on buttons and having the program build the script. Highly interactive. Sold well for a HC thingie, got a number of good reviews. Doing something like that for a better-structured language like Python might be feasible, but I'm not sure fruitful. That is, I think most Python coders would think it silly and useless. However, creating a squished-down version of that kind of scripting tool for a subset of Python that is represented by the PythonCard events and handlers, e.g., would be an intriguing notion. Or would it? -- Dan Shafer, Author-Consultant http://www.danshafer.com http://www.shafermedia.com |
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From: Christopher H. <chu...@ya...> - 2002-08-02 01:04:36
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>>Hello all, I have a idea to through out for a new name for Python. How bout Helix. >>What do you think? --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better |
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From: Magnus L. H. <ma...@he...> - 2002-08-02 01:10:08
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Christopher Humphrey <chu...@ya...>: > > > >>Hello all, I have a idea to through out for a new name for Python. > >>How bout Helix. > > >>What do you think? Yeah -- and we could have a snake mascot in a helix shape; and call him Felix the Helix ;) -- Magnus Lie Hetland The Anygui Project http://hetland.org http://anygui.org |
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From: Stephen B. <st...@th...> - 2002-08-03 18:28:48
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Hey, how about EasyGUI?
Just kidding. ;)
-- Stephen
On Thursday 01 August 2002 08:09 pm, Magnus Lie Hetland wrote:
> Christopher Humphrey <chu...@ya...>:
> > >>Hello all, I have a idea to through out for a new name for Python.
> > >>How bout Helix.
> > >>
> > >>What do you think?
>
> Yeah -- and we could have a snake mascot in a helix shape; and call
> him Felix the Helix ;)
___________
Stephen =20
From here to there
and there to here,
=09 funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss
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From: Patrick K. O'B. <po...@or...> - 2002-08-02 02:14:19
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Great name. Unfortunately, you're one step behind RealNetworks: http://www.helixcommunity.org/ http://www.realnetworks.com/ -- Patrick K. O'Brien Orbtech ----------------------------------------------- "Your source for Python programming expertise." ----------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.orbtech.com/web/pobrien/ Blog: http://www.orbtech.com/blog/pobrien/ Wiki: http://www.orbtech.com/wiki/PatrickOBrien ----------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: pyt...@li... [mailto:pyt...@li...]On Behalf Of Christopher Humphrey Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:04 PM To: Pyt...@li... Subject: [Pythoncard-users] (no subject) >>Hello all, I have a idea to through out for a new name for Python. How bout Helix. >>What do you think? |
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From: Brian D. <deb...@ho...> - 2004-04-26 02:56:04
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From: Ray P. <pri...@ds...> - 2004-05-05 22:01:42
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Hi, Is PythonCard right for me=3F I want to build a cross-platform GUI application that will do the following in the most simple version: 1) retrieve a TIFF image via HTTP 2) allow the user to draw black rectangles over parts of the image to hide the areas 3) add (overlay=3F) associated text with each rectangle 4) send the rectangle coordinates and associated text back to a web server 5) back to step 1 for another image Additional requirements are: 1) a toggle button to change the black rectangles to a transparent color to allow viewing of what is underneath Sound like something PythonCard can handle on Linux and Windows=3F Thanks for your input, Ray |
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From: Kevin A. <al...@se...> - 2004-05-06 19:33:26
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I think this may easier to do in raw wxPython since the app is=20 relatively simple to do if you use the right controls, but those=20 controls aren't wrapped for PythonCard 0.7.3.1. See explanation below. On May 5, 2004, at 3:00 PM, Ray Price wrote: > Hi, > > Is PythonCard right for me? I want to build a cross-platform GUI > application that will do the following in the most simple version: > > 1) retrieve a TIFF image via HTTP Yes, see the worldclock sample. Retrieving the data is just standard=20 Python and to avoid saving the image data to disk, you use=20 ImageFromStream=00 to convert it to something usable by wxPython. = Whether=20 to use wxPython or PythonCard would depend somewhat on the size of the=20= TIFF images. If they are so large that they need to be displayed and=20 manipulated in a scrolling window, then wxPython is definitely going to=20= be more suitable since PythonCard doesn't currently have a scrolling=20 panel or canvas. > 2) allow the user to draw black rectangles over parts of the image to > hide the areas > 3) add (overlay?) associated text with each rectangle Yes, though now you start to get into implementation details where the=20= solution is complicated by how much user interaction is required. An=20 object canvas is probably better for this sort of thing. In wxPython,=20 Chris Barker's FloatCanvas is probably the right thing to use, though=20 wxOGL might work just as well. I will be adding a component wrapper for=20= FloatCanvas in release 0.8. You could try some initial mockups with the=20= BitmapCanvas component. Cliff Well's did a DialogEditor using wxOGL=20 that does almost everything you want, but I don't know if he would want=20= to share that code or not. > 4) send the rectangle coordinates and associated text back to a web > server That's just Python, not a GUI issue. > 5) back to step 1 for another image > > Additional requirements are: > 1) a toggle button to change the black rectangles to a transparent > color to allow viewing of what is underneath There isn't a ToggleButton in PythonCard 0.7.3.1 and I can't remember=20 if the reason it isn't included is that it isn't supported on all=20 platforms yet. I'll look at this again for 0.8 since all platforms=20 might support it in 2.5.1.5 and above. You can obviously use a checkbox=20= to get the same effect. > Sound like something PythonCard can handle on Linux and Windows? > > Thanks for your input, > Ray Assuming the TIFF images don't need to scroll this app would be very=20 relatively easy with PythonCard on Windows since components (wxPython=20 controls) can overlap even without using FloatCanvas or wxOGL.=20 Overlapping controls don't work as well on Linux/GTK. So, looking at the explanations above, I think you're probably better=20 off just going with raw wxPython code for this one since PythonCard=20 0.7.3.1 just doesn't have all the pieces you need right now. ka |
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From: <mo...@my...> - 2005-02-04 16:22:12
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Anybody knows for Linux standalone CD-ROM distribution with PythonCard, = please ? |
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From: Peter C. N. <spa...@le...> - 2005-02-04 16:48:27
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You should be able to use the pythoncard .debs available on a modified knoppix cd. -Peter On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 05:21:53PM +0100, mo...@my... wrote: > Anybody knows for Linux standalone CD-ROM distribution with PythonCard, please ? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IntelliVIEW -- Interactive Reporting > Tool for open source databases. Create drag-&-drop reports. Save time > by over 75%! Publish reports on the web. Export to DOC, XLS, RTF, etc. > Download a FREE copy at http://www.intelliview.com/go/osdn_nl > _______________________________________________ > Pythoncard-users mailing list > Pyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users -- The 5 year plan: In five years we'll make up another plan. Or just re-use this one. |
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From: Siddhartha A. <sid...@ya...> - 2005-11-28 11:06:00
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Hi, I wanted to know if there's a way to add widgets dynamically using PythonCard. For example if I wanna dynamically generate GUIs without using the Resource Editor. I know it is supported in wxPython. If not, what are the plans for supporting such a functionality? Thanks, Sid. Life is about being a Phoenix! |
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From: Alex T. <al...@tw...> - 2005-11-28 12:01:37
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Siddhartha Azad wrote: >Hi, >I wanted to know if there's a way to add widgets >dynamically using PythonCard. For example if I wanna >dynamically generate GUIs without using the Resource >Editor. I know it is supported in wxPython. >If not, what are the plans for supporting such a >functionality? > > Yes, you can do that already. See samples/noresource for an example - this has both a dictionary included in the source code (rather than a separate resource file), and a dynamically created component. -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 25/11/2005 |
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From: Andy T. <an...@ha...> - 2005-11-28 20:18:00
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Alex Tweedly wrote: > Siddhartha Azad wrote: > >> Hi, >> I wanted to know if there's a way to add widgets >> dynamically using PythonCard. For example if I wanna >> dynamically generate GUIs without using the Resource >> Editor. I know it is supported in wxPython. >> If not, what are the plans for supporting such a >> functionality? >> >> > Yes, you can do that already. See samples/noresource for an example - > this has both a dictionary included in the source code (rather than a > separate resource file), and a dynamically created component. > Not to mention the dbBrowser sample, which creates widgets to represent the structure of a database table. The code may be slightly more complex than the noresource sample but this is one of the major features it was designed to show. Regards, Andy |
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From: Kevin A. <al...@se...> - 2002-01-11 21:55:22
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> From: Dan Shafer > > >Hopefully we can produce a development environment that allows > >non-programmers to build simple apps without seeing actual code. This > >is a big task but would go a long way to getting PythonCard accepted by > >a larger audience. > > I don't know if anyone ever saw my crowning software achievment, "Dan > Shafer's ScriptExpert," but it was a (largely successful, I think) > attempt to create a tool in which people could write scripts by > clicking on buttons and having the program build the script. Highly > interactive. Sold well for a HC thingie, got a number of good reviews. > > Doing something like that for a better-structured language like > Python might be feasible, but I'm not sure fruitful. That is, I think > most Python coders would think it silly and useless. A lot of Python coders, especially the *nix crowd, find IDEs silly and useless. "I don't need no stinkin' IDE, I have vim or emacs." That doesn't mean it wouldn't appeal to a particular subset of "inventive users." > However, creating a squished-down version of that kind of scripting > tool for a subset of Python that is represented by the PythonCard > events and handlers, e.g., would be an intriguing notion. Or would it? A squished down version would certainly make an interesting app. ka |
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From: David L. <wh...@oz...> - 2002-04-15 20:02:30
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IIRC, one of the early selling points of HC was it's attraction to people who where not programmers and perhaps not interested in programming per se. In a lot of ways, the Mac was the first toaster and was designed with toaster users in mind, not bit-wranglers. (As far as I can tell, the Mac is still more for toaster users, DTP being the Mac's killer app last I heard.) I wonder how many people that started out using HC as a means of organizing their toast collection ended up becoming interested in the scripting aspects of HC and thence to more a more general interest in programming? While a "script wizard" such as Dan's Script-Expert might not be of much interest to experienced Python programmers, it might be very interesting to a non-programmer or newbie Python programmer. Personally, I think it would be the killer feature that made PythonCard attractive across a wide audience. David LeBlanc Seattle, WA USA > -----Original Message----- > From: pyt...@li... > [mailto:pyt...@li...]On Behalf Of Dan > Shafer > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 13:19 > To: pyt...@li... > Subject: [Pythoncard-users] (no subject) > > > >Hopefully we can produce a development environment that allows > >non-programmers to build simple apps without seeing actual code. This > >is a big task but would go a long way to getting PythonCard accepted by > >a larger audience. > > I don't know if anyone ever saw my crowning software achievment, "Dan > Shafer's ScriptExpert," but it was a (largely successful, I think) > attempt to create a tool in which people could write scripts by > clicking on buttons and having the program build the script. Highly > interactive. Sold well for a HC thingie, got a number of good reviews. > > Doing something like that for a better-structured language like > Python might be feasible, but I'm not sure fruitful. That is, I think > most Python coders would think it silly and useless. > > However, creating a squished-down version of that kind of scripting > tool for a subset of Python that is represented by the PythonCard > events and handlers, e.g., would be an intriguing notion. Or would it? > -- > Dan Shafer, Author-Consultant > http://www.danshafer.com > http://www.shafermedia.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pythoncard-users mailing list > Pyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users > |
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From: Dan S. <py...@da...> - 2002-04-15 23:27:34
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At 01:06 PM 4/15/2002 -0700, David LeBlanc wrote: >IIRC, one of the early selling points of HC was it's attraction to people >who where not programmers and perhaps not interested in programming per se. >In a lot of ways, the Mac was the first toaster and was designed with >toaster users in mind, not bit-wranglers. (As far as I can tell, the Mac is >still more for toaster users, DTP being the Mac's killer app last I heard.) > >I wonder how many people that started out using HC as a means of organizing >their toast collection ended up becoming interested in the scripting aspects >of HC and thence to more a more general interest in programming? > >While a "script wizard" such as Dan's Script-Expert might not be of much >interest to experienced Python programmers, it might be very interesting to >a non-programmer or newbie Python programmer. Personally, I think it would >be the killer feature that made PythonCard attractive across a wide >audience. I have tentatively concluded that I will wait until PythonCard stablizes in a release form that Kevin is happy going public with, *then* creating scriptExpert or its equivalent for the inventive user audience that I want to appeal to. PythonCard has morphed a bit from its (very) early intent to be a HyperCard "clone" and now I think sees that product as one of many that can and will be built on top of PythonCard, which will become seen as a highly usable GUI building environment for wxPython (or a prime subset thereof). I'm sure if I've misstated this, Kevin will jump in and correct me! >David LeBlanc >Seattle, WA USA > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pyt...@li... > > [mailto:pyt...@li...]On Behalf Of Dan > > Shafer > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 13:19 > > To: pyt...@li... > > Subject: [Pythoncard-users] (no subject) > > > > > > >Hopefully we can produce a development environment that allows > > >non-programmers to build simple apps without seeing actual code. This > > >is a big task but would go a long way to getting PythonCard accepted by > > >a larger audience. > > > > I don't know if anyone ever saw my crowning software achievment, "Dan > > Shafer's ScriptExpert," but it was a (largely successful, I think) > > attempt to create a tool in which people could write scripts by > > clicking on buttons and having the program build the script. Highly > > interactive. Sold well for a HC thingie, got a number of good reviews. > > > > Doing something like that for a better-structured language like > > Python might be feasible, but I'm not sure fruitful. That is, I think > > most Python coders would think it silly and useless. > > > > However, creating a squished-down version of that kind of scripting > > tool for a subset of Python that is represented by the PythonCard > > events and handlers, e.g., would be an intriguing notion. Or would it? > > -- > > Dan Shafer, Author-Consultant > > http://www.danshafer.com > > http://www.shafermedia.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pythoncard-users mailing list > > Pyt...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Pythoncard-users mailing list >Pyt...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pythoncard-users |
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