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[Pythoncard-users] Adventurous testers wanted ....

[Alex T. <al...@tw...>]

I'm about ready for an alpha release of the sizer additions to the 
layout editor, so I'm looking for a small number of people to test it.

Note that I do not want to put any of this code into CVS yet, possibly 
not for some time, so trying it out will involve some effort in 
downloading and installing. It requires changes to quite a lot of 
PythonCard, not just within the layoutEditor.

It is (intended to be) upward and downward compatible
 - old (existing) resource files work fine
 - new resource files created with this will work fine on the old PythonCard
but of course, it is an alpha release so there may be bugs, and also it 
MAY create resource files which are not acceptable to later versions 
(should be easy to get around, at the very worst a simple manual edit of 
the resource file).

Documentation will be scant (i.e. this email and another like it), so it 
would be helpful for testers to be at least partially aware of how 
sizers work in wxPython already.

What does it support ?
  Box Sizers only !!
  spacers (fixed and stretchable)
  new "background info"  selection of "use sizers" to control whether or 
not to use the sizer info
  new "Run Option"  (-i) to control the display of indicators to help 
see where sizers are

What does it not support ?
  Grid sizers
  incomplete set of insertion options
  no drag and drop form the layout window (or prop editor window) into 
sizer tree
      (but there is d'n'd within the sizer tree, and also "select and 
drop" from layout window into sizer tree / new sizer)
  no slick graphics in the sizer tree (should have different images per 
sizer/comp but don't yet)

Anyone interested, please let me know (including system, wxPython 
versions, etc.) I've tested on Win XP (lots) and Mac (some), but don't 
have access to  Linux .

Also, let me know what you think about distribution. PythonCard is 7+ 
Mb, still over 3 when zipped, so I've been thinking about distributing 
without samples, docs and most other tools, which brings it down to 
~500Kb - small enough I could always distribute complete snapshots, 
minimizing the chances of confusion. Would that be convenient to use ?



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Re: [Pythoncard-users] Adventurous testers wanted ....

[Luca M. <man...@ya...>]

Sorry, I don't understand how add a multi tab in a
notebook whit pythonCard. Some suggestions?
Tank you.


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Re: [Pythoncard-users] Adventurous testers wanted ....

[Alex T. <al...@tw...>]

Luca Mandolesi wrote:

>Sorry, I don't understand how add a multi tab in a
>notebook whit pythonCard. Some suggestions?
>Tank you.
>
>  
>
There's an example of usage in 
PythonCard/samples/testNotebook/testNotebook.py

It's also done in the code editor 
(PythonCard/tools/oneEditor/tabcodeEditor.py) - has the advantage of 
being a real, normal usage rather than an example, but it is spread 
around amongst quite a lot of code, so not so obvious.

That should help, but please ask if you have any problems or have any 
further questions.

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Re: [Pythoncard-users] Adventurous testers wanted ....

[Winston W. <win...@st...>]

I'm very interested in using sizers so I will make some time to test  
for you.  I can test on Mac OS X only though, no Linux.

Regarding distribution size, I think 7MB is no problem, and it makes  
things simpler all around to have one file to distribute.

-Winston

On May 29, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote:

>
> I'm about ready for an alpha release of the sizer additions to the  
> layout editor, so I'm looking for a small number of people to test it.
>
> Note that I do not want to put any of this code into CVS yet,  
> possibly not for some time, so trying it out will involve some  
> effort in downloading and installing. It requires changes to quite  
> a lot of PythonCard, not just within the layoutEditor.
>
> It is (intended to be) upward and downward compatible
> - old (existing) resource files work fine
> - new resource files created with this will work fine on the old  
> PythonCard
> but of course, it is an alpha release so there may be bugs, and  
> also it MAY create resource files which are not acceptable to later  
> versions (should be easy to get around, at the very worst a simple  
> manual edit of the resource file).
>
> Documentation will be scant (i.e. this email and another like it),  
> so it would be helpful for testers to be at least partially aware  
> of how sizers work in wxPython already.
>
> What does it support ?
>  Box Sizers only !!
>  spacers (fixed and stretchable)
>  new "background info"  selection of "use sizers" to control  
> whether or not to use the sizer info
>  new "Run Option"  (-i) to control the display of indicators to  
> help see where sizers are
>
> What does it not support ?
>  Grid sizers
>  incomplete set of insertion options
>  no drag and drop form the layout window (or prop editor window)  
> into sizer tree
>      (but there is d'n'd within the sizer tree, and also "select  
> and drop" from layout window into sizer tree / new sizer)
>  no slick graphics in the sizer tree (should have different images  
> per sizer/comp but don't yet)
>
> Anyone interested, please let me know (including system, wxPython  
> versions, etc.) I've tested on Win XP (lots) and Mac (some), but  
> don't have access to  Linux .
>
> Also, let me know what you think about distribution. PythonCard is 7 
> + Mb, still over 3 when zipped, so I've been thinking about  
> distributing without samples, docs and most other tools, which  
> brings it down to ~500Kb - small enough I could always distribute  
> complete snapshots, minimizing the chances of confusion. Would that  
> be convenient to use ?
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [Pythoncard-users] Adventurous testers wanted ....

[Alex T. <al...@tw...>]

Winston Wolff wrote:

> I'm very interested in using sizers so I will make some time to test  
> for you.  I can test on Mac OS X only though, no Linux.
>
> Regarding distribution size, I think 7MB is no problem, and it makes  
> things simpler all around to have one file to distribute.

Thanks for giving it a test - I'll send download instructions privately, 
and initial documentation will be posted here soon. Once it gets to 
Beta, I'll make the download public, but for now it is an alpha release 
- please remember to backup your files and your original PythonCard 
installation).

I agree it's better to keep distribution simple (and 7Mb isn't so bad 
these days); I've put it up as a  .zip file (I know my Mac can unzip 
this OK, so I assume it's built-in on all Macs, but if that's wrong, let 
me know and I'll put up a .tar.gz as well).

Anyone else willing to test, please get in touch.

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