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Re: [Pythoncard-users] global menubar

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Re: [Pythoncard-users] determining the source of generic event handlers

[Liam C. <cy...@gm...>]

Here you go - 

def on_keyPress(self, event):
        #Get the object that was typed into
        eventSourceWidget = event.target

Just like Javascript DOM  : )

Regards, 


Liam Clarke

On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:25:37 -0600, bra...@om...
<bra...@om...> wrote:
>  
> I was glad to discover that generic event handlers such as 'on_closefield'
> (without the widget name) appear to be available in PythonCard, but I didn't
> see this in any documentation. I just gave it a try because that was how
> HyperCard worked. 
>  
> HyperCard had a function called "the target" which returned the name of the
> widget from which the event was originally generated. Is there any such
> equivalent method in PythonCard? 
>  
> I'd like to subclass model.Background with a class that could intercept and
> process events from all my various backgrounds. This could save me from
> having to define an individual event handler for every single widget, at
> least in cases where these widgets all have features in common. 
>  
> Thanks! 
> 
>  


-- 
'There is only one basic human right, and that is to do as you damn well please.
And with it comes the only basic human duty, to take the consequences.

[Pythoncard-users] determining the source of generic event handlers

[<bra...@om...>]

I was glad to discover that generic event handlers such as 'on_closefield' 
(without the widget name) appear to be available in PythonCard, but I 
didn't see this in any documentation. I just gave it a try because that 
was how HyperCard worked. 

HyperCard had a function called "the target" which returned the name of 
the widget from which the event was originally generated. Is there any 
such equivalent method in PythonCard? 

I'd like to subclass model.Background with a class that could intercept 
and process events from all my various backgrounds. This could save me 
from having to define an individual event handler for every single widget, 
at least in cases where these widgets all have features in common. 

Thanks!

Re: [Pythoncard-users] global menubar

[<bra...@om...>]

Hm...I don't see that option on any of my windows under Background Info. 
I'm using PythonCard .81 with Python 2.3 under Windows XP . I  do see a 
checkbox called "Status bar on Window", but unchecking that had no effect 
that I could see. The menus on my primary parent window are still not 
available in child windows. 

To clarify, what I'm trying to accomplish here is an overarching 
application window which contains other windows. At least, that's what it 
would look like under Windows. On a Mac, it would just be an menubar 
globally available and applicable independent of which window happened to 
be active. I'm not clear on how to accomplish this in PythonCard.

Thanks!

Liam Clarke <cy...@gm...> wrote on 03/19/2005 03:05:09 PM:

> In the Resource Editor, go to Background Info and turn off menus for
> the windows.
> 
> 
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:59:09 -0600, bra...@om...
> <bra...@om...> wrote:
> > 
> > I've noticed that the basic structure in PythonCard involves every 
window
> > having a separate menubar. Is there a way in PythonCard to have an
> > overarching application menu, with no menus in each window?
> > 
> > Thanks! 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 'There is only one basic human right, and that is to do as you damn 
> well please.
> And with it comes the only basic human duty, to take the consequences.

Re: [Pythoncard-users] global menubar

[Liam C. <cy...@gm...>]

In the Resource Editor, go to Background Info and turn off menus for
the windows.


On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:59:09 -0600, bra...@om...
<bra...@om...> wrote:
>  
> I've noticed that the basic structure in PythonCard involves every window
> having a separate menubar. Is there a way in PythonCard to have an
> overarching application menu, with no menus in each window?
>  
> Thanks! 


-- 
'There is only one basic human right, and that is to do as you damn well please.
And with it comes the only basic human duty, to take the consequences.

[Pythoncard-users] global menubar

[<bra...@om...>]

I've noticed that the basic structure in PythonCard involves every window 
having a separate menubar. Is there a way in PythonCard to have an 
overarching application menu, with no menus in each window?

Thanks!

Re: [Pythoncard-users] multiColumnList line number selected

[Liam C. <cy...@gm...>]

Sorry, the wxPython demo is different to the Pythoncard demos.

Pythoncard is built on top of wxPython (which is built on top of wx),
and sometimes you need to use wxPython methods, either because
Pythoncard doesn't cover your need yet, or you want to bend some
widget some funny way.

http://www.wxpython.org/download.php

Download it just for the demo. The wxPython demo covers every wx
widget, and is the primary source of python documentation for the wx
library.


Regards, 

Liam Clarke

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 21:23:54 -0600, bra...@om...
<bra...@om...> wrote:
>  
> 
>  > def on_MCL_itemActivated(self, event):
>  >      selectedIndex = event.m_itemIndex 
>  
> Aha! Thanks. That is what I needed. 
>  
> > that demo it prints stuff like this -
>  > 
>  > OnItemSelected: 5, Billy Joel, Blonde Over Blue, Rock
>  
> I think I missed that because multicolumnexample.py doesn't 
> print out that index. After I did more digging I found it 
> in the minimalList.py, which does print the index. 
> When I went looking for info about MultiColumnList, I didn't 
> think to look in the minimalList sample... 
> 
>  > So yeah... good luck, Pythoncard is great, and very flexible, and it's
>  > not that often you have to revert to the wx stuff.
>  
> Yes, but it's nice to know that you can when you need to. I'm not 
> ready to climb the learning curve for wxPython right now, so 
> yes, this is great. 


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And with it comes the only basic human duty, to take the consequences.

[Pythoncard-users] PythonCard list archive available via Newsreader interface

[<bra...@om...>]

Tonight I found myself frustrated with the web-based interfaces for 
reading mailing lists. I wanted to dig deep into the PythonCard mailing 
list, and found the web interfaces just too clunky. Then I noticed 
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pythoncard, helpfully linked from 
the main PythonCard documentation page. Apparently not all mail archives 
are created equal. The Gmane web interface seemed pretty good. Not as good 
as a real mail application like Eudora, but fairly well thought out.

Out of curiosity, I took a look at the home page for Gmane, and was happy 
to discover that all Gmain mailing list archive have been converted to 
Usenet newsgroup format at news.gmane.org. With a good newsreader app, the 
user interface is much more convenient than a web interface (quicker 
navigation, less clicking around from screen to screen, ability to read 
multiple postings in one screen, etc.). I popped open my newsreader app, 
pointed it to news.gmane.org, and...voila! A clean, convenient UI for 
interacting with mailing list archives.  This is a very cool service 
offered free by Gmane.org. 

If you already know all this, then I'll feel a bit stupid for pointing out 
something that seems nifty, surprising, and clever to me, but just obvious 
to everyone else.

Oops, I just realized that it's only a matter of time before the spamming 
spammers realize they can point their spam crawlers at news.gmane.org, 
exposing all our email addresses to the ravages of spam spam spam.

Except...the big brains of Gmane thought of that, too. They have an email 
address encryption scheme available to solve this problem.  The mailing 
list admin can request that this feature be enabled for the entire mailing 
list. See  http://gmane.org/tmda.php . Of course, this won't affect the 
security of other mailing list archives, but most of them are web-based 
and do not expose email addresses, so...it looks like a good idea to 
request the feature.

* This ad not paid for by Gmane: In the interests of full disclosure, I am 
fully not paid by Gmane to provide any kind of endorsements, just as they 
are fully not paid by me or anyone else that I know of to provide any kind 
of amazingly nifty mail archive service. 

Re: [Pythoncard-users] multiColumnList line number selected

[<bra...@om...>]

> def on_MCL_itemActivated(self, event):
>      selectedIndex = event.m_itemIndex

Aha! Thanks. That is what I needed. 

> that demo it prints stuff like this -
> 
> OnItemSelected: 5, Billy Joel, Blonde Over Blue, Rock

I think I missed that because multicolumnexample.py doesn't 
print out that index. After I did more digging I found it
in the minimalList.py, which does print the index.
When I went looking for info about MultiColumnList, I didn't
think to look in the minimalList sample...

> So yeah... good luck, Pythoncard is great, and very flexible, and it's
> not that often you have to revert to the wx stuff.

Yes, but it's nice to know that you can when you need to. I'm not
ready to climb the learning curve for wxPython right now, so
yes, this is great. 

Re: [Pythoncard-users] multiColumnList line number selected

[Liam C. <cy...@gm...>]

Hi Brad, 


for a multicolumnlist called MCL, because I'm boring - 

def on_MCL_itemActivated(self, event):
     wasSelected = self.components.MCL.getStringSelection()[0]

will return the list(line) that was clicked on.

To get an actual index for it, use - 

def on_MCL_itemActivated(self, event):
     selectedIndex = event.m_itemIndex


I trawled through the wxPython multicolumnlist demo code to find that.
Remember, 90% of the wxPython tricks you need are in the demo, it's
just the knack of finding them.
Only reason I found that is I noticed that when you click an item in
that demo it prints stuff like this -

OnItemSelected: 5, Billy Joel, Blonde Over Blue, Rock

So yeah... good luck, Pythoncard is great, and very flexible, and it's
not that often you have to revert to the wx stuff.


HTH

Liam Clarke
-- 
'There is only one basic human right, and that is to do as you damn well please.
And with it comes the only basic human duty, to take the consequences.

[Pythoncard-users] multiColumnList line number selected

[<bra...@om...>]

I'd like to capture the line number the user doubleclicks in a 
multiColumnList. I guess this would happen on the event "itemActivated", 
but what is the name of the method that returns the line number selected 
by the user? I didn't see anything in the source code for class 
MultiColumnList. I looked a the docs for wxListCtrl, but didn't see any 
help there either.

Hints?

Thanks!

[Pythoncard-users] installing on Fedora Core 3

[Roan E. <rem...@vu...>]

Hi everyone,

I'm a new would-be user of Pythoncard, I found it while looking for a 
modern day open source variant of hypercard.

Unfortunately I have not been able to install it on my fedora core 3 
linux box. I'm not a great linux expert, but I know my way around a 
little. I'm pretty sure it's wxpython that gives problems. I have 
written down my installation attempts as a sort of how to install guide, 
except it doesn't work. Here it is, I hope someone can help out, or this 
provides at least a starting point for other fedora users...

Roan

=====================================================
Friday, March 11th, 2005
I will try to install Pythoncard on Fedora Core 3 Linux.

The page
http://pythoncard.sourceforge.net/linux_installation.html
explains the install for mandrake and debian, maybe I learn something 
for fedora too.

First I check wether python is installed:

$ python
Python 2.3.4 (#1, Feb  2 2005, 12:11:53)
[GCC 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 >>> (Type Ctrl-D here to exit)

and this is so. Good, we're almost done :-)
(if you don't have python installed, use your package manager to do so)

My python version is 2.3.something so I download
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wxpython/wxPythonGTK-py2.3-2.5.1.5-1.i386.rpm
as advised in the linux_installation.html text.

I find the downloaded package with my file browser, right-click on it, 
and select "Open with 'Install packages'". I give my root password, and 
it installs without any problem.

I download the pythoncard "tarball" from
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pythoncard/PythonCard-0.8.1.tar.gz?download

I just downloaded the .tar.gz file and unpacked it, then I saw a big 
directory with lots of files in it.

I was hoping this would be it, but I was out of luck. Running one of the 
examples (./samples/minimal/minimal.py) failed. After searching on the 
net for a while, I noticed another python application installing itself 
by using

$python setup.py install

and sure enough, executing the command from the directory of pythoncard 
worked. A lot of config output flew by and when it was done I could 
*almost* run the example

./samples/minimal/minimal.py

it now gave an error dialog, the minimum requirements to run were 
wxpython 2.5.2.8 instead of 2.5.1.5 (so there's a wrong mention in the 
documentation on the pythoncard website).

Luckily I found a recent version (2.5.3.1) on the sourceforge project 
page of wxpython:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wxpython

I couldn't find an rpm just like the one I downloaded for version 
2.5.1.5! And there are no prebuilt packages for fedora core 3. It all 
goes downhill from here, and I was so close...

Attempt a) downloading the source: I hate this. I've never been able to 
make things like this work on my fedora core3. So I download the code, 
and do a
./configure
in the code dir. It fails somewhere around the GTK+.

Attempt b) installing packages: I can't find any for fedora core 3. So I 
install the wxPython common and wxPython runtime for fedora core2 (see 
http://wxpython.org/download.php). the command
./samples/minimal/minimal.py
still returns the same error, so obviously things have not worked out.

Attempt c) second attempt to compile
I read the
http://wxpython.org/BUILD.html
that describes how to build from the code, and try again with

./configure --with-gtk --with-opengl --enable-debug --enable-geometry 
--enable-sound --with-sdl --enable-display

however this still gives the same error.
I check my package manager (synaptic) and install some GTK+ development 
packages that were not installed yet.
Then I try to run
  gtk-config --libs
(a suggestion from the failing ./configure error output) but this 
doesn't work.
Hope conquers experience, and I try to compile again. You never know.

./configure --with-gtk --with-opengl --enable-debug --enable-geometry 
--enable-sound --with-sdl --enable-display

Amazingly, it seems to work.

------------------------- last output -----------------------
Configured wxWidgets 2.5.3 for `i686-pc-linux-gnu'

   Which GUI toolkit should wxWidgets use?                 GTK+ 2
   Should wxWidgets be compiled into single library?       no
   Should wxWidgets be compiled in debug mode?             yes
   Should wxWidgets be linked as a shared library?         yes
   Should wxWidgets be compiled in Unicode mode?           no
   What level of wxWidgets compatibility should be enabled?
                                        wxWidgets 2.2      no
                                        wxWidgets 2.4      yes
   Which libraries should wxWidgets use?
                                        jpeg               builtin
                                        png                builtin
                                        regex              sys
                                        tiff               builtin
                                        zlib               sys
                                        odbc               no
                                        expat              sys
                                        libmspack          no
                                        sdl                yes
------------------------- end output -------------------------

So I type

make

This did not produce any errors, so I now type

make install

This also succeeds but trying to run the sample STILL gives the same 
error. Perhaps I need to give some parameters for the make or make 
install commands?

Re: [Pythoncard-users] Anchors?

[Ruben M. <rmc...@ya...>]

I have been playing with QT Designer lately (blush :).
 If you haven't seen it, it would be good to check it
out.  They have a nice implementation of how to manage
the sizers for the GUI Designer.

-Ruben

--- Kevin Altis <al...@se...> wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2005, at 3:07 PM, Chad Crabtree wrote:
> 
> > Have anchors been/started on implemnted?  I'm just
> curious becuase I
> > think that is something that I can contribute.
> >
> 
> There is no support for anchors or sizers in the
> framework or 
> resourceEditor at this time, but as the samples and
> tools show you can 
> just use plain wxPython code in your applications to
> get the 
> functionality if needed. Did you have some ideas for
> wrapping anchors 
> to simplify their usage as well as how they would be
> handled in the 
> resourceEditor?
> 
> ka
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Pythoncard-users] HTMLWindow issue...

[Kevin A. <al...@se...>]

On Mar 10, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Schollnick, Benjamin wrote:

> Folks,
>
> First, can Pythoncard operate with the unicode version of WxPython
> Installed?
> I suspect so, but I do not see requirements for WxPython listed on the
> Pythoncard
> pages...
>
> The reason I ask is that I am attempting to display a unicode (UTF-8)
> page in
> a HTMLWindow, and while it displays, a error dialog comes up and says 
> it
> can
> not display in UTF-8....(The UTF-8 only characters are broken out in 
> the
> encoded
> manner)
>
> Now before I upgrade WxPython, I need to ensure that I am not going to
> break Pythoncard...
>
> Is there a problem with the Unicode WxPython & Pythoncard?
>
> And has anyone successfully shown a Unicode document in a Pythoncard
> HTMLWindow?
>
> 		- Ben
>

PythonCard works with both Unicode and non-Unicode builds of wxPython 
on all platforms.

I think we may still have an issue with the resourceEditor saves of the 
resource files stripping Unicode out of menu items or something like 
that, but otherwise it should work fine. We probably need to create 
some resource files that use Unicode strings in a variety of component 
attributes and then test that the resourceEditor behaves correctly both 
with Unicode and non-Unicode builds of wxPython as far as string 
conversion goes.

The other issue is what happens when a resource file containing Unicode 
strings is loaded with a non-Unicode build of wxPython, will it convert 
down to ascii, just throw an exception? Again, need some examples to 
test. The code that might need to adjusted to auto-convert or display a 
warning dialog is pretty small.

ka

[Pythoncard-users] HTMLWindow issue...

[Schollnick, B. <Ben...@xe...>]

Folks,

First, can Pythoncard operate with the unicode version of WxPython
Installed?
I suspect so, but I do not see requirements for WxPython listed on the
Pythoncard
pages...

The reason I ask is that I am attempting to display a unicode (UTF-8)
page in
a HTMLWindow, and while it displays, a error dialog comes up and says it
can=20
not display in UTF-8....(The UTF-8 only characters are broken out in the
encoded
manner)

Now before I upgrade WxPython, I need to ensure that I am not going to
break Pythoncard...

Is there a problem with the Unicode WxPython & Pythoncard?

And has anyone successfully shown a Unicode document in a Pythoncard
HTMLWindow?

		- Ben

[Pythoncard-users] QuotesViewer, my first PythonCard application

[Ronny De W. <ron...@gm...>]

Today i released my first PythonCard application:

QuotesViewer is a GUI giving you easy and fast access to quotes of all 
shares on the
Euronext stock exchange.  http://quotesviewer.sourceforge.net/

The GUI is not rocket science, in fact it is rather simple. However i am 
very pleased i
could produce this with relative limited effort, thanks to PythonCard, 
wxPython, ...

I want to share my experiences up-to-now on PythonCard with the mailing 
list:
- Adequate documentation, especially the tutorials and the sample 
applications are
   very useful. API documentation would be most welcome.
- Responsive help on this list, thanks!
- I have the impression that PythonCard cannot hide the wxPython complexity.
   Perhaps that's not the goal, but needs perhaps better documented,
   wxPython knowledge is useful for all but the most simple applications.

Some topics where i spent some time on, or where i am still looking for 
improvements:
source
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/quotesviewer/quotesviewer/euronextBrowser.py?rev=1.2&view=auto
- *from* PythonCard.components *import* *
   needed this to let py2exe find all the components
- *def* *autoSizeColumns*(self)
   would expect PythonCard/wxPython should do this automatically
   have to call this everytime the multiColumnList changes, i wonder
   if this can be done in one single place ?
- *def* *on_btnUpdate_mouseClick*(self, event)
   is this the right way (using yield) to disable the button until 
operation is finished,
   or is there a simpler way ? *
- def* *on_about_command*(self, event)
   Contains metadata also used in other files, perhaps  should refactor 
it out to a __init__.py file ?
- Don't have much experience with distutils, wonder if my setup.py sdist 
is ok ?
- Didn't have the chance to test my application on other platforms than 
win32. Anybody cares to give
   it a try on linux, Mac OS ?
-  Does anybody know the scripts/crontab job i should use on the 
sourceforge shell server to
    automatically update the web home pages from the CVS repository on a 
daily basis ?

Any feedback is welcome!

Thanks to all who made PythonCard to what it is today, and continue with 
the good work!

Ronny De Winter

[Pythoncard-users] Re: autosizing columns for MultiColumnList component

[Ronny De W. <ron...@gm...>]

Kevin Altis <altis <at> semi-retired.com> writes:

> 
> On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:19 PM, ronny de winter wrote:
> 
> > I would expect the columwidth for the column in a MultiColumnList are
> > automatically
> > sized to the size of the longest item in the column.
> > This doesn't seem to happen always.
> >
> > Double clicking in the header line on the border of the colums does 
> > the job.
> > Any ideas on how to automate this so that it happens on initialisation
> > and on any
> > update of the list ?
> >
> > Ronny De Winter
> >
> 
> I don't know. If that is part of the behavior of the native control and 
> doesn't involve calling one of the methods then I'm not even sure where 
> to look. You might need to bring this up on wxPython-users or look more 
> deeply into the multicolumnlist.py component.
> 
> ka
> 
After some more digging i found a way to do it:

    import wx

    def on_initialize(self, event):
        self.components.thelist.columnHeadings = dat.headings
        self.components.thelist.items = dat.values()
        self.autoSizeColumns()
        self.updating = False

    def autoSizeColumns(self):
        for col in range(len(dat.headings)):
            self.components.thelist.SetColumnWidth(col, wx.LIST_AUTOSIZE)      
     

and call this on any update of thelist. I wonder if i can do it in one
central place.

Cheers,
Ronny

Re: [Pythoncard-users] Focus on backgrounds

[Liam C. <cy...@gm...>]

Thanks very much for that Kevin, works like a charm.

Regards, 

Liam Clarke


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:47:04 -0800, Kevin Altis <al...@se...> wrote:
> On Mar 5, 2005, at 3:58 AM, Liam Clarke wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Is there a way to call setFocus on the window when it opens?
> >
> > I have 3 windows -
> >
> > Main
> >  |
> >  ChildA
> >   |
> >   ChildB
> >
> > ChildA opens ChildB, assigns Main as the parent of ChildB and then
> > closes itself. This is fine except Main is now in the foreground, and
> > B behind it....
> >
> > I tried self.backgrounds['bgTemplate'].setFocus(), but that doesn't
> > work,
> > I'm currently using
> >
> > def on_initialize(self, event):
> >         self.components[self.components.keys()[0]].setFocus()
> >
> > in ChildB.
> >
> > This works, but it seems a bit hacky, and I get a flicker as Main
> > moves to the front, and then B does, which is distracting.
> >
> > There's probably something very obvious I'm missing, there usually is,
> > but any help would be appreciated. I used findfiles.py and all the
> > returns for 'focus' related to findFocus and setFocus being called on
> > widgets.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Liam Clarke
> >
> 
> I think the method you're looking for is the wxPython one, Raise(),
> which brings a "top-level" window to the front. So something like this
> in your main code...
> 
> self.childB.Raise()
> 
> ka
> 
> 


-- 
'There is only one basic human right, and that is to do as you damn well please.
And with it comes the only basic human duty, to take the consequences.

Re: [Pythoncard-users] UnicodeDecodeError

[Bo G. <bo...@sy...>]

On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 22:57, Paulo Sérgio wrote:

>>I'll send the code to you in pvt, as soon as i get at home ...
>>
>>    
>>

I could test it on debian here -- Ubuntu Intel & PPC both. Your choice.
Bo Green

Re: [Pythoncard-users] UnicodeDecodeError

[Phil E. <ph...@li...>]

On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 22:57, Paulo S=E9rgio wrote:
> I'll send the code to you in pvt, as soon as i get at home ...
>=20

I'd be happy to test it on Mandrake if you'd like me to.

--=20

Regards

Phil Edwards
Brighton, UK

Re: [Pythoncard-users] UnicodeDecodeError

[<ps...@ig...>]

I'll send the code to you in pvt, as soon as i get at home ...

Paulo Sérgio.

Kenneth Pronovici wrote:

>>Does anyone else running Linux have this problem? I have no way of  
>>testing this or trying to resolve it myself since I only run Windows  
>>and Mac OS X. If there is no response here, please bring it up on  
>>wxPython-users and cc this list.
>>
>>http://www.wxpython.org/maillist.php
>>    
>>
>
>I have not heard of anyone else having this problem on Debian.  That's
>not to say it's not happening, though.  There just aren't that many
>Debian users.
>
>If someone can post the actual code that causes the problem (I didn't
>see it here) I can run it on my Debian system and see what it does.
>
>KEN
>
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>

Re: [Pythoncard-users] Install problem with python 2.4

[Kevin A. <al...@se...>]

On Mar 8, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Thomas Heller wrote:

>
> I haven't looked at the install script you use, neither do I have an
> up-to-date wxPython installation on my system - so I cannot try to 
> build
> an installer myself.
>
> Also I have to apologize for my silence - no, the usual excuse.
>
> There have been several problems in the bdist_wininst installer, most
> related to the nasty MS runtime dll 'conflicts' between python2.4 and
> python2.3.  IIRC, the problem showed up when the post-install script 
> was
> printing something which should afterwards be displayed in the GUI.
> Because of the different MS runtime dlls used, calls into these dlls
> were mixed and blowing up the whole installer exe.
>
> I think I have fixed most of these problems in the python 2.3.5 
> release,
> and also in Python's 2.4 maint branch, so it would be best to build the
> Pythoncard installer with Python 2.3.5 (if you want to use a released
> version).
>
> The only problem (AFAIK) that remains is that the printed output of the
> postinstall script is *not displayed* in the gui if the installer
> installs for the 'wrong' Python version.  At least that's some progress
> - instead of crashing.
>
> I hope I can find time to fix bdist_wininst for the pending 2.4.1
> release that it also fixes this problem, but I'm not sure.
>
> Thomas
>
> Ok, I realized that I don't need wxPython to *build* the Pythoncard
> installer.  I also downloaded the 0.8.1 sources, and then built the
> installer with it.  For me, it installs both for Python 2.4, and Python
> 2.3.5.  It was build with 2.3.5 (as you can see in the distutils 
> version
> number 1.0.4 which is shown in the first screen when the installer
> runs).  As mentioned before, the 'See the shortcuts installed in the
> PythonCard Programs Group' is only displayed when the installer is run
> for Python 2.3.  Ok, not a big loss if you don't see it.
>
> I've uploaded the installer to
> http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/PythonCard-0.8.1.win32.exe
>
> And finally, a suggestion: Since it is possible to have several major
> Python versions (also on windows) on the same machine, it would 
> probably
> be wise to encode the Python version number into the start menu
> shortcuts as well, like 'Pythoncard for Python 2.3' or so.
>
>

Thanks Thomas!

I'll check this out and do the next build with 2.3.5. I would like to 
merge the install-pythoncard.py script into setup.py so there is only 
one file to worry about, but I don't really have a clue what is 
required as I'm still clueless in getting distutils to do all its 
magic. I'm not sure how we would go about modifying the shortcuts as 
suggested above either; just check the python version and modify the 
string before building the links I guess?

ka

Re: [Pythoncard-users] UnicodeDecodeError

[Kenneth P. <pro...@sk...>]

> Does anyone else running Linux have this problem? I have no way of  
> testing this or trying to resolve it myself since I only run Windows  
> and Mac OS X. If there is no response here, please bring it up on  
> wxPython-users and cc this list.
> 
> http://www.wxpython.org/maillist.php

I have not heard of anyone else having this problem on Debian.  That's
not to say it's not happening, though.  There just aren't that many
Debian users.

If someone can post the actual code that causes the problem (I didn't
see it here) I can run it on my Debian system and see what it does.

KEN

Re: [Pythoncard-users] autosizing columns for MultiColumnList component

[Kevin A. <al...@se...>]

On Feb 23, 2005, at 11:19 PM, ronny de winter wrote:

> I would expect the columwidth for the column in a MultiColumnList are
> automatically
> sized to the size of the longest item in the column.
> This doesn't seem to happen always.
>
> Double clicking in the header line on the border of the colums does 
> the job.
> Any ideas on how to automate this so that it happens on initialisation
> and on any
> update of the list ?
>
> Ronny De Winter
>

I don't know. If that is part of the behavior of the native control and 
doesn't involve calling one of the methods then I'm not even sure where 
to look. You might need to bring this up on wxPython-users or look more 
deeply into the multicolumnlist.py component.

ka

Re: [Pythoncard-users] Install problem with python 2.4

[Thomas H. <th...@py...>]

"Kevin Altis" <al...@se...> writes:

> On Mar 6, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Peter C. Norton wrote:
>
>> Here is an installer built with python 2.4:
>>
>> http://spacey.org/Members/spacey/PythonCard-0.8.1-python2.4-
>> pn.win32.exe/download
>>
>> Please let me know if this works with python2.3!
>>
>> -Peter
>>
>
> It died during the install-pythoncard.py phase when I tried installing
> with Python 2.3. just like the current .exe installer dies with Python
> 2.4. So, the PythonCard package installs fine, it just doesn't do the
> programs group and links for the Start menu.
>
> Since Thomas Heller wrote this script, I'm going to cc him and sees if
> he knows how to incorporate it into our existing setup.py script as
> well as make it work with both Python 2.3 and Python 2.4 so we can
> have  a single .exe installer instead of having to have one for 2.3
> and  another for 2.4 which would be a real drag.

I haven't looked at the install script you use, neither do I have an
up-to-date wxPython installation on my system - so I cannot try to build
an installer myself.

Also I have to apologize for my silence - no, the usual excuse.

There have been several problems in the bdist_wininst installer, most
related to the nasty MS runtime dll 'conflicts' between python2.4 and
python2.3.  IIRC, the problem showed up when the post-install script was
printing something which should afterwards be displayed in the GUI.
Because of the different MS runtime dlls used, calls into these dlls
were mixed and blowing up the whole installer exe.

I think I have fixed most of these problems in the python 2.3.5 release,
and also in Python's 2.4 maint branch, so it would be best to build the
Pythoncard installer with Python 2.3.5 (if you want to use a released
version).

The only problem (AFAIK) that remains is that the printed output of the
postinstall script is *not displayed* in the gui if the installer
installs for the 'wrong' Python version.  At least that's some progress
- instead of crashing.

I hope I can find time to fix bdist_wininst for the pending 2.4.1
release that it also fixes this problem, but I'm not sure.

Thomas

Ok, I realized that I don't need wxPython to *build* the Pythoncard
installer.  I also downloaded the 0.8.1 sources, and then built the
installer with it.  For me, it installs both for Python 2.4, and Python
2.3.5.  It was build with 2.3.5 (as you can see in the distutils version
number 1.0.4 which is shown in the first screen when the installer
runs).  As mentioned before, the 'See the shortcuts installed in the
PythonCard Programs Group' is only displayed when the installer is run
for Python 2.3.  Ok, not a big loss if you don't see it.

I've uploaded the installer to
http://starship.python.net/crew/theller/PythonCard-0.8.1.win32.exe

And finally, a suggestion: Since it is possible to have several major
Python versions (also on windows) on the same machine, it would probably
be wise to encode the Python version number into the start menu
shortcuts as well, like 'Pythoncard for Python 2.3' or so.