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[Pythoncard-devel] Mac Tiger install instructions needed

[Kevin A. <al...@se...>]

I'm still running Panther on my PowerBook and given my aversion to 
changing things that seem to work fine I probably won't upgrade until I 
get a new machine next year. That means I don't have an easy way to 
write install instructions for Tiger, which we definitely need. I went 
ahead and added duplicates of the current panther install instructions 
to cvs macosx_panther_installation.html, 
macosx_tiger_installation.html. Any Tiger install instructions are 
probably going to need to incorporate the info at:

http://undefined.org/python/#TigerPython23Compat

Can anyone with a Tiger system tweak the macosx_tiger_installation.html 
document so we can add that to the main site. If it needs to use Python 
2.4.x and a later version of wxPython that is fine. I'll push this 
request to the users list if none of us have access to Tiger.

ka

Re: [Pythoncard-devel] Mac Tiger install instructions needed

[<bra...@om...>]

Kevin Altis wrote on 12/27/2005 01:54:59 PM:

> I'm still running Panther on my PowerBook and given my aversion to 
> changing things that seem to work fine I probably won't upgrade until I 
> get a new machine next year. That means I don't have an easy way to 
> write install instructions for Tiger, which we definitely need. I went 
> ahead and added duplicates of the current panther install instructions 
> to cvs macosx_panther_installation.html, 
> macosx_tiger_installation.html. Any Tiger install instructions are 
> probably going to need to incorporate the info at:
> 
> http://undefined.org/python/#TigerPython23Compat
> 
> Can anyone with a Tiger system tweak the macosx_tiger_installation.html 
> document so we can add that to the main site. If it needs to use Python 
> 2.4.x and a later version of wxPython that is fine. I'll push this 
> request to the users list if none of us have access to Tiger.
> 


I'm using PythonCard with wx 2.6.1 and Python 2.3.5 on Tiger, but I had
an error during the wx binary install. I've seen that same error on every
Tiger system I've tried.

What I did was install TigerPython23Compat.pkg and then run the binary
wx installer for Panther. After running the binary install, an error
message appears in the GUI stating "There was an error during the install.
Please try again." 

Trying again doesn't make the error message go away.

I don't know what's generating that error message, but wx seems to work
anyway. It still has some visual bugs, but I don't think that has anything
to do with Tiger--I seen the same visual bugs under Panther. These visual
glitches are associated with wx 2.6.x and don't happen under 2.5.3.
(PythonCard TextField widgets don't display properly when populated
during on_initialize -- the text is left scrolled out of view).

Tiger does bundle wxPython 2.5.3 unicode, so if that version is acceptable
some users may be able to skip installing wx. Since PythonCard seems
to have less visual glitches under 2.5.3, maybe we should just recommend
using the bundled wx on the instructions page. That would considerably
simplify the instructions.

On the other hand, some folks may want to use Python 2.4.x. That will
probably entail installing a separate copy of wx....

Re: [Pythoncard-devel] Mac Tiger install instructions needed

[Andy T. <an...@ha...>]

bra...@om... wrote:
> 
> Kevin Altis wrote on 12/27/2005 01:54:59 PM:
> 
>  > I'm still running Panther on my PowerBook and given my aversion to
>  > changing things that seem to work fine I probably won't upgrade until I
>  > get a new machine next year. That means I don't have an easy way to
>  > write install instructions for Tiger, which we definitely need. I went
>  > ahead and added duplicates of the current panther install instructions
>  > to cvs macosx_panther_installation.html,
>  > macosx_tiger_installation.html. Any Tiger install instructions are
>  > probably going to need to incorporate the info at:
>  >
>  > http://undefined.org/python/#TigerPython23Compat
>  >
>  > Can anyone with a Tiger system tweak the macosx_tiger_installation.html
>  > document so we can add that to the main site. If it needs to use Python
>  > 2.4.x and a later version of wxPython that is fine. I'll push this
>  > request to the users list if none of us have access to Tiger.
>  >
> 
> 
> I'm using PythonCard with wx 2.6.1 and Python 2.3.5 on Tiger, but I had
> an error during the wx binary install. I've seen that same error on every
> Tiger system I've tried.
> 
> What I did was install TigerPython23Compat.pkg and then run the binary
> wx installer for Panther. After running the binary install, an error
> message appears in the GUI stating "There was an error during the install.
> Please try again."
> 
> Trying again doesn't make the error message go away.
> 
> I don't know what's generating that error message, but wx seems to work
> anyway. It still has some visual bugs, but I don't think that has anything
> to do with Tiger--I seen the same visual bugs under Panther. These visual
> glitches are associated with wx 2.6.x and don't happen under 2.5.3.
> (PythonCard TextField widgets don't display properly when populated
> during on_initialize -- the text is left scrolled out of view).
> 
> Tiger does bundle wxPython 2.5.3 unicode, so if that version is acceptable
> some users may be able to skip installing wx. Since PythonCard seems
> to have less visual glitches under 2.5.3, maybe we should just recommend
> using the bundled wx on the instructions page. That would considerably
> simplify the instructions.
> 
> On the other hand, some folks may want to use Python 2.4.x. That will
> probably entail installing a separate copy of wx....

On my shiny new Powerbook everything appears to be working fine from a 
fresh CVS checkout.

I can confirm that I'm using the Apple supplied versions of Python 
(2.3.5) and wxPython (2.5.3.1).

I haven't tried installing wxPython 2.6 so can't corroborate Brad's 
issues with strange error messages.

Regards,
Andy
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 From the desk of Andrew J Todd esq - http://www.halfcooked.com/

Re: [Pythoncard-devel] Mac Tiger install instructions needed

[Kevin A. <al...@se...>]

On Dec 27, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Andy Todd wrote:

> bra...@om... wrote:
>> Kevin Altis wrote on 12/27/2005 01:54:59 PM:
>>  > I'm still running Panther on my PowerBook and given my aversion to
>>  > changing things that seem to work fine I probably won't upgrade  
>> until I
>>  > get a new machine next year. That means I don't have an easy way to
>>  > write install instructions for Tiger, which we definitely need. I  
>> went
>>  > ahead and added duplicates of the current panther install  
>> instructions
>>  > to cvs macosx_panther_installation.html,
>>  > macosx_tiger_installation.html. Any Tiger install instructions are
>>  > probably going to need to incorporate the info at:
>>  >
>>  > http://undefined.org/python/#TigerPython23Compat
>>  >
>>  > Can anyone with a Tiger system tweak the  
>> macosx_tiger_installation.html
>>  > document so we can add that to the main site. If it needs to use  
>> Python
>>  > 2.4.x and a later version of wxPython that is fine. I'll push this
>>  > request to the users list if none of us have access to Tiger.
>>  >
>> I'm using PythonCard with wx 2.6.1 and Python 2.3.5 on Tiger, but I  
>> had
>> an error during the wx binary install. I've seen that same error on  
>> every
>> Tiger system I've tried.
>> What I did was install TigerPython23Compat.pkg and then run the binary
>> wx installer for Panther. After running the binary install, an error
>> message appears in the GUI stating "There was an error during the  
>> install.
>> Please try again."
>> Trying again doesn't make the error message go away.
>> I don't know what's generating that error message, but wx seems to  
>> work
>> anyway. It still has some visual bugs, but I don't think that has  
>> anything
>> to do with Tiger--I seen the same visual bugs under Panther. These  
>> visual
>> glitches are associated with wx 2.6.x and don't happen under 2.5.3.
>> (PythonCard TextField widgets don't display properly when populated
>> during on_initialize -- the text is left scrolled out of view).
>> Tiger does bundle wxPython 2.5.3 unicode, so if that version is  
>> acceptable
>> some users may be able to skip installing wx. Since PythonCard seems
>> to have less visual glitches under 2.5.3, maybe we should just  
>> recommend
>> using the bundled wx on the instructions page. That would considerably
>> simplify the instructions.
>> On the other hand, some folks may want to use Python 2.4.x. That will
>> probably entail installing a separate copy of wx....
>
> On my shiny new Powerbook everything appears to be working fine from a  
> fresh CVS checkout.
>
> I can confirm that I'm using the Apple supplied versions of Python  
> (2.3.5) and wxPython (2.5.3.1).
>
> I haven't tried installing wxPython 2.6 so can't corroborate Brad's  
> issues with strange error messages.
>
> Regards,
> Andy
> --  
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> ---------
> From the desk of Andrew J Todd esq - http://www.halfcooked.com/
>

So maybe what we should do is point out in the instructions just using  
the supplied 2.3.5 and 2.5.3.1 versions and then an install wxPython  
2.6.2.x (when available) and Python 2.4.x. I can't see PythonCard 1.0  
requiring Python 2.4 features but we will definitely want to support  
wxPython 2.6.2.x once it is available.

ka

Re: [Pythoncard-devel] Mac Tiger install instructions needed

[Kevin A. <al...@se...>]

It looks like I may get a new Intel-based iMac next week so I'll have 
both Tiger and Panther systems. Given the built-in Python and wxPython 
combo, for 0.8.2 maybe the Tiger install instructions will just be 
shortened to the part about installing PythonCard and testing that it 
works. Do we still need the Python add-ons like PythonLauncher or are 
those also included? If someone wants to rev the docs I checked into 
cvs that would be great, otherwise I'll try and get to it toward the 
end of next week or whenever I get my new box.

ka