Re: [Pythoncard-users] presentation ideas?

[<kim...@ya...>]

I don't know whether this is true or not with other 
Python GUI toolkits (I only know PythonCard) but I
find PythonCard extremely easy to handle situations
where you have a number of user interfaces that are
quite similar and yet each one has it's own subtleties
that needs its own code.  

For instance, with the application I am developing, I
have many situations like that.  So, what I did was to
define a super-class for all of the similar GUIs. 
Then I have one file (module) for each of the GUIs,
and subclass them from the super-class.   This way, I
can have a resource file for each of them, and yet
share lots of the common action code as long as I
structured the code accordingly.

Not sure if this is too much for your presentation but
if the audience are seasoned Python programmers, may
be the object oriented nature of doing things might
appeal to them.

I really like PythonCard.  The only gripe I have is
the lack of more detailed documentations, like which
control supports which method and so forth - the
existing documentation needs a lot of improvement.  I
had to spend a lot of time looking through code before
I can figure out how to do certain things.

--
John


Steve Christensen wrote:
> Alex Tweedly wrote:
> 
>>Andy Todd wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Steve Christensen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On our local python user's group mailing list, I
shot my mouth off that
>>>>PythonCard was great (which it definitely is). Now
I've been asked to do
>>>>a presentation. Curses!
>>>>
>>>>I was thinking of covering the following:
>>>>
>>>>* a walk-through of the tutorials (this might drop
off, since it'd be 
>>>>duplicating the stuff discussed in the tutorials)
>>>>
>>>>* a comparison between a simple application
written in PythonCard vs.
>>>>straight wxPython.
>>>>
>>
>>Remember it's as much the difference in process as
the difference in the 
>>resulting code that matters.
>>
>>
>>>>* a brief list of 'why choose pythoncard' (hit
some of the highpoints of
>>>>the recent 'who is pythoncard's intended audience'
thread).
>>>>* a brief example of directly using wxPython
inside a PythonCard
>>>>application (anyone have a link to a
straightforward example?).
>>>>
>>
>>One aspect of that is using sizers - part of
wxPython but not Pythoncard 
>>- a good simple example is the FindFiles utility.
>>
>>I'd also mention the ability to customize the
built-in components if 
>>needed - see the recent example on multicolumn
lists.
>>
>>
>>>Whenever I've done this kind of thing I've found
that interactive 
>>>demos are the best way to show PythonCard's
strengths. Stick to one of 
>>>the early walkthroughs by Dan Shafer with detours
into the tools 
>>>(resource editor, code editor and runtime shell)
and you will soon 
>>>find that time flies.
>>>
>>>If you wan't some great material this document by
Patrick O'Brien from 
>>>2002 is a great resource;
>>>
>>>http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/python/2002/07/18/pycrust.html
>>>
>>
>>I'd agree 100% with that. Do not underestimate how
much of your allotted 
>>time it will take to get through even a simple
example, given a couple 
>>of questions as you go; demonstrations to a mixed
audience need to be 
>>much slower than if you were just doing it for
yourself.
>>
> 
> 
> Thanks Andy and Alex for the advice. 
> 
> If people are interested... you can get a first
draft of my presentation
> from :
>    
http://www.xmission.com/~stnchris/tmp/IntroducingPythonCard_v1.pdf
> 
> Any areas where I should go into more depth? Less
depth? 
> 
> Should I touch on the other provided tools, e.g.
findFiles/codeEditor (I
> tend to use Vim for everything, so I'm not that
familiar with
> codeEditor).
> 
> Should I stick to one example program rather than
the 2.5 I'm using?
> (The .5 coming from my project which I wanted to
show as a more
> 'complete' application rather than a demo. I didn't
want to go into
> too much detail... it seems like it could derail the
conversation away
> from PythonCard into the other libraries/frameworks
used) 
> 
> 
> -Steve
> 
> 
> 
>
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