Re: [Pythoncard-users] global menubar

[<bra...@om...>]

I'm thinking I can get by with a tabbed interface for the main window, and 
go with small menu-less child windows for some of the individual forms. 
For instance, an Employees tab would show a multiColumnList of employees 
with search filters at the top. To edit an employee record, the user 
doubleclicks a line and an employee edit window pops up. This seems like a 
workable approach. I guess I need to take a look at how to implement the 
Notebook.


Liam Clarke <cy...@gm...> wrote on 03/19/2005 09:03:05 PM:

> Pythoncard in itself can be a bit experimental. All I can say is unit
> test, unit test, unit test.
> That said, Pythoncard is very versatile in unexpected ways, especially
> with the ability to tweak & fiddle by dropping to the underlying wx
> methods.
> 
> Sound like you need a multiframe window, which Pythoncard doesn't do
> at the mo, AFAIK.
> 
> Good luck with the MDI.
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Liam Clarke
> 
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:23:59 -0600, bra...@om...
> <bra...@om...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hm...my app has a lot of fairly small windows, since it's a database 
front
> > end with a lot of small forms and lists (not 'documents', per se). It 
seems
> > a little odd for each one to have an individual menubar containing 
global
> > navigation features. I guess that pushes me toward the single window 
tabbed
> > interface approach. The sample demo for tabbed interface 
(testNotebook)
> > looks good, but I get the impression that the Notebook for PythonCard 
is
> > still somewhat experimental. Should I expect problems if I start using 
it? 
> > 
> > Thanks! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  Brad Allen wrote: 
> > > 
> >  > Hm...I don't see that option on any of my windows under Background 
> >  > Info. I'm using PythonCard .81 with Python 2.3 under Windows XP . I 

> >  > do see a checkbox called "Status bar on Window", but unchecking 
that
> >  > had no effect that I could see. The menus on my primary parent 
> >  > window are still not available in child windows. 
> >  > 
> >  > To clarify, what I'm trying to accomplish here is an overarching 
> >  > application window which contains other windows. At least, that's 
> >  > what it would look like under Windows. 
> > 
> > Alex Tweedly wrote on 03/19/2005 07:49:39 PM: 
> > 
> > 
> > > That's (I think, from your description) the old Windows MDI 
> >  > (multiple doc interface) style - a single window, with a menu and 
> >  > one or more "document" windows - such as Adobe Photoshop Elements 
> >  > (though it adds palettes and floating toolbars and other extras). 
> >  > Another example would be old versions of Word, Excel, etc.
> >  > 
> >  > That style has been largely deprecated by MS in favour of either 
> >  > their SDI (Single Doc Interface), such as recent versions of Word, 
> >  > Excel, etc., where each doc window has its own set of menus (and 
> >  > there may also be palettes, etc.), or notebook / tabbed styles.
> >  > 
> >  > There's no direct support for MDI in Pythoncard - though I believe 
> >  > you can achieve it using wxPython directly to create the sub-
> >  > windows. For what it's worth, I'd recommend against this - it 
really
> >  > is "last decade's" style :-)
> >  > 
> >  > Personally, I think the notebook/tabbed style is the way to go, 
with
> >  > separate child windows (probably menu-less) for any additional 
child
> >  > windows which are not "document" windows.
> >  > 
> >  > There is something of a "myth" that MDI is "the Windows way to do 
> >  > it" - resulting from the old version of MS products - but if you 
> >  > look closely at current products (not just from MS), most of them 
> >  > have abandoned that style in favour of one of the other styles. 
> > > On a Mac, it would just be an menubar globally available and 
> >  > applicable independent of which window happened to be active. I'm 
> >  > not clear on how to accomplish this in PythonCard. 
> > > Sorry, can't say anything about Mac. 
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