Re: [Pythoncard-users] layout and font problems on Windows

[Ronny De W. <ron...@gm...>]

There is indeed a difference with the themes. The examples below are 
with the default Windows XP theme.
When i switch to Classic theme the situation is a little bit better but 
still not good, ie. the mp3player from the
samples shows buttons at the bottom, but only the top half.

I can work around with the 2 tips you gave me, thanks.

However thinking on other people who would like to give Pythoncard a 
try, when they get similar results as the
ones below they will probably stop using Pythoncard, which is a shame. 
PythonCard has potential for becoming
a very powerful and productive tool.

Ronny

Alex Tweedly wrote:

> Ronny De Winter wrote:
>
>> This problem was reported on this mailing list 17-19 dec 2005. Since 
>> no solution was found i've put the info in a bug record.
>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1415287&group_id=19015&atid=119015 
>>
>>
> Thanks for recording it (and sorry I didn't get anywhere with it in 
> December - busy time of year and it got buried back then).
>
>> Layout/font problems with resource editor/samples
>> -------------------------------------------------
>>
>> I have problems with some of the PythonCard samples, ie. in the 
>> mp3player the buttons almost completely dissappear at the bottom of 
>> the window. Another example is minimalList which ads an horizontal 
>> scrollbar.
>>
>> This seems to be a PythonCard problem on my Windows configuration,
>> my setup: WinXP, python 2.4.2, wxPython 2.6.1.0, pythoncard 0.8.1
>>
>> some examples:
>>
>> http://www.5consulting.com/img/tmp/screen1.jpg
>> resourceEditor Property Editor:
>> - incomplete button at the right bottom
>>
> I think we'll need a bit more info from you, on system settings.
>
> When I look at this same window, on a very similar set-up (WinXP, 
> python 2.4.1, wxPython 2.6.1, pythoncard cvs latest), what I get is
>
> the *overall* window size is the same
> the window title bar is smaller
> the status bar is smaller
>       (therefore the "usable" part of the window is larger vertically)
> the font used in the list fields (and presumably in the button also) 
> are smaller
>
> I'm guessing the difference is due to different XP "themes" (is that 
> what they're called?) and/or different default system fonts. Both 
> areas that I know nothing about - but if you happen to know anything 
> about them, could you send the relevant info please ?
>
> If you can send that info, I hope to be able to reproduce it here - 
> and so confirm that it is a system setting / font issue. That won't 
> mean that we'll be able to fix it any time soon, I'm afraid.
>
> The resourceEditor (and indeed most of the samples) do not use sizers, 
> and therefore are not able to adapt themselves for differing font 
> issues. They also do not specify a font to use, allowing it to default 
> to the system font.
>
> Both of these impose limitations between systems - these have largely 
> been worked around by adding a certain amount of "slack" in the sizing 
> of windows and in the positioning of components, enough for MacOS and 
> common Linux variants to work OK.
>
> The long-term fix, I believe, will have to involve the use of sizers. 
> We have struggled to find a way to use sizers compatible with the 
> simplicity of PythonCard (and will probably continue to struggle for a 
> while longer).
>
> If I were you, what I'd do is:
>
> 1. make any small work-arounds to make the Pythoncard tools usable on 
> your system
> 2. consider developing any apps  as sizer-based, to ensure they do 
> look OK on your system as well as others
>
> For 1, I'd edit (with a text editor) 
> {pythoncard}/tools/resourceEditor/modules/proprertyEditor.rsrc.py, and 
> change
>
>>           'title':'resourceEditor Property Editor',
>>           'size':(405, 270),
>
>
> to make the size bigger (maybe 450,290)
>
> Note that cvs latest of Pythoncard does contain a simple Sizer layout, 
> which can help, though only with fairly simple layouts - e.g. most 
> though not all of the samples, and all of the PythonCard tools except 
> findfiles (which already uses sizers).
> BUT the one thing it does not do is resize the entire window, so it 
> wouldn't solve the problem with the resourceEditor. However, you may 
> find it useful for your own apps.
>
>