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From: Ron G. <ro...@fl...> - 2009-03-23 23:18:28
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On Mar 23, 2009, at 3:27 PM, Yuri Takhteyev wrote: >>> 1. The wikilink behavior has changed in a non-backwards- >>> compatible way. >>> Before, [[WikiLink]] and [[wiki link]] were equivalent. Now they >>> are not. >>> Personally, I preferred the old way. > > The new way is closer to what Wikipedia does, which is a big plus Perhaps, but if that's the goal then actually doing it the way Wikipedia does it would be even better than just being "way closer." Wikipedia contracts multiple spaces down to one, but markdown.py doesn't. Wikipedia allows wikilinks that start with an underscore; markdown.py doesn't. In general, I think the wikilink canonicalization algorithm ought to have the property that two wikilinks that look like the "ought" to be the same actually are the same. [[WikiLink]] and [[wiki link]] are perhaps arguable, but [[wiki link]] and [[wiki link]] aren't IMO. > I think. However, perhaps it would make sense to make this > configurable. That would be fine with me. Maybe this could even subsume base_url and end_url. > >> Well, the reason is that this (PHP) is an already existing and highly >> distributed implementation. The idea is that one should be able to >> pass the same source documents through any implementation and get >> back >> the same result. So, I went with an already existing implementation. > > I agree with this completely. I think it would be great to have a set > of extensions that get us as close as possible to PHP Markdown Extra. That's a fine goal, but what's wrong with being a superset of PHP MD Extra? rg |
From: Waylan L. <wa...@gm...> - 2009-03-23 23:05:30
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On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Ron Garret <ron...@gm...> wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Waylan Limberg wrote: > >> Thanks for the feedback Ron. I've responded you your concerns below to >> keep things in context. >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Ron Garret <ron...@gm...> >> wrote: >>> >>> 1. The wikilink behavior has changed in a non-backwards-compatible >>> way. >>> Before, [[WikiLink]] and [[wiki link]] were equivalent. Now they >>> are not. >>> Personally, I preferred the old way. >> >> What was the old way? I don't remember changing that. Could you >> provide an example of the current output and the expected output? >> > > > The old one converted spaces to CamelCase. The new one converts > spaces to underscores. > Oh, sorry I misunderstood you. You put brackets around both. The old way worked only on CamelCase and did not use brackets at all. The new way only uses brackets and ignored case. If you notice, the extension name even changed from "wikilink" to "wikilinks" (the "s" was added) so that old code would not work without changes with the new extension. The point is, this is actually a different extension. As Yuri pointed out, this is actually considered a better wikilink syntax. Of course, you are free to implement the old syntax if you can. We ran into a few technical difficulties with some of the other changes in the code, which is why we dropped the old. But we'd be be happy to add it back in if you can get it to work. -- ---- \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| Waylan Limberg |
From: Yuri T. <qar...@gm...> - 2009-03-23 22:27:28
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>> 1. The wikilink behavior has changed in a non-backwards-compatible way. >> Before, [[WikiLink]] and [[wiki link]] were equivalent. Now they are not. >> Personally, I preferred the old way. The new way is closer to what Wikipedia does, which is a big plus, I think. However, perhaps it would make sense to make this configurable. Right now we have label.replace(' ', '_') in markdown/extensions/wikilinks.py Both arguments to replace could perhaps be configurable, and the first one should probably be treated as a regular expression. Alternatively, we could have a config parameter that could be set to a function that would be used to do the conversion, so you would have something like: makeExtension(configs = {'make_url': lambda x: label.replace(' ', '')}) > Well, the reason is that this (PHP) is an already existing and highly > distributed implementation. The idea is that one should be able to > pass the same source documents through any implementation and get back > the same result. So, I went with an already existing implementation. I agree with this completely. I think it would be great to have a set of extensions that get us as close as possible to PHP Markdown Extra. People are free, however, to implement their own table extensions, that have different behavior, and we can even add some of them to our collections of extensions. > Anyone is encouraged to branch and create their own extensions. For extensions - definitely. Of course, it's good to always look for opportunities for code reuse. E.g., instead of actually branching code, it may be better to have a different extension that uses the same module but just configures it differently. - yuri -- http://spu.tnik.org/ |
From: Ron G. <ron...@gm...> - 2009-03-23 20:21:53
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On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Waylan Limberg wrote: > Thanks for the feedback Ron. I've responded you your concerns below to > keep things in context. > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Ron Garret <ron...@gm...> > wrote: >> My pleasure. Thanks for the code :-) >> >> Couple of comments. These are really design issues, not bugs, but >> FWIW: >> >> 1. The wikilink behavior has changed in a non-backwards-compatible >> way. >> Before, [[WikiLink]] and [[wiki link]] were equivalent. Now they >> are not. >> Personally, I preferred the old way. > > What was the old way? I don't remember changing that. Could you > provide an example of the current output and the expected output? > The old one converted spaces to CamelCase. The new one converts spaces to underscores. Old: Python 2.6.1 (r261:67515, Dec 6 2008, 16:42:21) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5370)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import markdown >>> markdown.version '1.7' >>> markdown.markdown('[[wiki link]]',['wikilink']) u'<p><a href="/WikiLink/" class="wikilink">wiki link</a>\n</p>' New: >>> import markdown >>> markdown.version '2.0-rc1' >>> markdown.markdown('[[wiki link]]',['wikilinks']) u'<p><a class="wikilink" href="/wiki_link/">wiki link</a></p>' >>> rg |
From: Waylan L. <wa...@gm...> - 2009-03-23 20:08:39
|
Thanks for the feedback Ron. I've responded you your concerns below to keep things in context. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Ron Garret <ron...@gm...> wrote: > My pleasure. Thanks for the code :-) > > Couple of comments. These are really design issues, not bugs, but FWIW: > > 1. The wikilink behavior has changed in a non-backwards-compatible way. > Before, [[WikiLink]] and [[wiki link]] were equivalent. Now they are not. > Personally, I preferred the old way. What was the old way? I don't remember changing that. Could you provide an example of the current output and the expected output? > 2. I don't like PHP table syntax because it makes it impossible to create a > table without headers. I know this has been discussed before (though have > not been able to find that discussion -- can someone send me a pointer?) so > maybe there's a sound reason for choosing this syntax over some of the > alternatives, but at the moment I can't think what it might be. Well, the reason is that this (PHP) is an already existing and highly distributed implementation. The idea is that one should be able to pass the same source documents through any implementation and get back the same result. So, I went with an already existing implementation. I was originally going to add in the option to allow tables without headers, but that presented the problem of how to define column alignment and I didn't want to introduce new syntax. On further reflection, I realized that the purpose of a table (in Markdown even more so than HTML) should only be for tabular data, and when does tabular data not have column headers? I suppose it's possible, but very unlikely. I suspect that is why the PHP implementation is so restrictive in that regard. Oh, you asked for a pointer to a previous discussion. Um, check the markdown list [1]. There was a recent discussion regarding table syntax with all sorts of alternatives discussed, but in the end, most of it was more complex that what fits with the Markdown philosophy. So I ignored those suggestions and went with what I believe to be the mostly widely used existing implementation. [1]: http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/markdown-discuss/ > One good thing about the new code is that it's really easy for me to change > these things myself. :-) And it is for that very reason that I left the syntax as-is. Anyone can build upon the existing base - or even start over from scratch. > I mention them only in case there's a desire to > prevent people from branching too much. Anyone is encouraged to branch and create their own extensions. That is part of the point of our extension API. In fact, the extension API is what we pride ourselves in most with the project - even before performance. But, yeah, the default implementation isn't going to branch to far from the existing standard for the reasons mentioned above. -- ---- \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| Waylan Limberg |
From: Ron G. <ron...@gm...> - 2009-03-23 19:19:24
|
My pleasure. Thanks for the code :-) Couple of comments. These are really design issues, not bugs, but FWIW: 1. The wikilink behavior has changed in a non-backwards-compatible way. Before, [[WikiLink]] and [[wiki link]] were equivalent. Now they are not. Personally, I preferred the old way. 2. I don't like PHP table syntax because it makes it impossible to create a table without headers. I know this has been discussed before (though have not been able to find that discussion -- can someone send me a pointer?) so maybe there's a sound reason for choosing this syntax over some of the alternatives, but at the moment I can't think what it might be. One good thing about the new code is that it's really easy for me to change these things myself. :-) I mention them only in case there's a desire to prevent people from branching too much. rg On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Waylan Limberg wrote: > Hey Ron, > > I appreciate the testing. Especially considering that some of those > changes were more than a simple bug-fix. I was intending to do another > rc today (half-way between rc1 and when we plan on releasing 2.0 > final) but being out-of-town this past weekend, I haven't got to it > yet. > > I also wanted to do another rc because I forgot to include a Python > 3.0 version with the last rc as we had previously discussed. Hopefully > I'll get these out tonight. > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Ron Garret <ron...@gm...> > wrote: >> This is probably a stupid question, but since there have already been >> changes since 2.0rc1 I want to check the code out directly from >> gitorious. How do I do it? I know how to use git, I just don't know >> which URI to use. >> >> Thanks, >> rg >> >> On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Waylan Limberg wrote: >> >>> I am pleased to announce that after much hard work, a Release >>> Candidate for Python Markdown version 2.0 is now available for >>> [download][]. Please, download it, install it, test it, beat it... >>> and >>> report any [bugs][]. Assuming no major bugs, we will release 2.0 >>> final >>> approximately one month from today. Until then, the project [site][] >>> will continue to document version 1.7. Updated documentation is >>> available in the `doc/` directory in the source files. Hopefully, >>> all >>> the included extensions will be documented before the final release. >>> >>> [download]: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=153041&package_id=183331&release_id=666767 >>> [bugs]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/Tickets >>> [site]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown >>> >>> Release Notes: >>> =========== >>> >>> * Major refactor of the core and extension API. Extension authors >>> should see the included documentation in >>> `docs/writing_extensions.txt`. All parts of the syntax are now >>> completely overridable by extensions. >>> >>> * Numerous extensions added to the standard distribution (off by >>> default), including an "extra" extension which matches PHP Markdown >>> Extra. See the `markdown/extensions/` directory for the full list. >>> >>> * The code has been refactored into a full Python library with a >>> separate command line script. >>> >>> * Optional output of XHTML1 (default) or HTML4 with the option for >>> extensions to add more. >>> >>> * Uses ElementTree to build (X)HTML document rather than home-grown >>> NanoDom. >>> >>> * Most of the differences in Python-Markdown's output compared to >>> perl >>> and/or php have been eliminated. >>> >>> * And much more... See the changelog and [Git log][] for more >>> details. >>> >>> [Git log]: http://gitorious.org/projects/python-markdown/repos/mainline/logs >>> >>> -- >>> ---- >>> \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| >>> Waylan Limberg >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San >>> Francisco, CA >>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the >>> Enterprise >>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source >>> participation >>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source >>> code: SFAD >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Python-markdown-discuss mailing list >>> Pyt...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) >> are >> powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. >> Quickly and >> easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based >> development >> software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. >> Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-markdown-discuss mailing list >> Pyt...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss >> > > > > -- > ---- > \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| > Waylan Limberg |
From: Waylan L. <wa...@gm...> - 2009-03-23 19:00:49
|
Hey Ron, I appreciate the testing. Especially considering that some of those changes were more than a simple bug-fix. I was intending to do another rc today (half-way between rc1 and when we plan on releasing 2.0 final) but being out-of-town this past weekend, I haven't got to it yet. I also wanted to do another rc because I forgot to include a Python 3.0 version with the last rc as we had previously discussed. Hopefully I'll get these out tonight. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Ron Garret <ron...@gm...> wrote: > This is probably a stupid question, but since there have already been > changes since 2.0rc1 I want to check the code out directly from > gitorious. How do I do it? I know how to use git, I just don't know > which URI to use. > > Thanks, > rg > > On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Waylan Limberg wrote: > >> I am pleased to announce that after much hard work, a Release >> Candidate for Python Markdown version 2.0 is now available for >> [download][]. Please, download it, install it, test it, beat it... and >> report any [bugs][]. Assuming no major bugs, we will release 2.0 final >> approximately one month from today. Until then, the project [site][] >> will continue to document version 1.7. Updated documentation is >> available in the `doc/` directory in the source files. Hopefully, all >> the included extensions will be documented before the final release. >> >> [download]: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=153041&package_id=183331&release_id=666767 >> [bugs]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/Tickets >> [site]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown >> >> Release Notes: >> =========== >> >> * Major refactor of the core and extension API. Extension authors >> should see the included documentation in >> `docs/writing_extensions.txt`. All parts of the syntax are now >> completely overridable by extensions. >> >> * Numerous extensions added to the standard distribution (off by >> default), including an "extra" extension which matches PHP Markdown >> Extra. See the `markdown/extensions/` directory for the full list. >> >> * The code has been refactored into a full Python library with a >> separate command line script. >> >> * Optional output of XHTML1 (default) or HTML4 with the option for >> extensions to add more. >> >> * Uses ElementTree to build (X)HTML document rather than home-grown >> NanoDom. >> >> * Most of the differences in Python-Markdown's output compared to perl >> and/or php have been eliminated. >> >> * And much more... See the changelog and [Git log][] for more details. >> >> [Git log]: http://gitorious.org/projects/python-markdown/repos/mainline/logs >> >> -- >> ---- >> \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| >> Waylan Limberg >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San >> Francisco, CA >> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the >> Enterprise >> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source >> participation >> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source >> code: SFAD >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-markdown-discuss mailing list >> Pyt...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are > powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and > easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development > software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. > Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com > _______________________________________________ > Python-markdown-discuss mailing list > Pyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss > -- ---- \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| Waylan Limberg |
From: Artem Y. <se...@sp...> - 2009-03-23 18:37:19
|
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:52 PM, Ron Garret <ron...@gm...> wrote: > This is probably a stupid question, but since there have already been > changes since 2.0rc1 I want to check the code out directly from > gitorious. How do I do it? I know how to use git, I just don't know > which URI to use. > You can clone current version with: git clone git://gitorious.org/python-markdown/mainline.git > > Thanks, > rg Regards, Artem > > > On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Waylan Limberg wrote: > > > I am pleased to announce that after much hard work, a Release > > Candidate for Python Markdown version 2.0 is now available for > > [download][]. Please, download it, install it, test it, beat it... and > > report any [bugs][]. Assuming no major bugs, we will release 2.0 final > > approximately one month from today. Until then, the project [site][] > > will continue to document version 1.7. Updated documentation is > > available in the `doc/` directory in the source files. Hopefully, all > > the included extensions will be documented before the final release. > > > > [download]: > https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=153041&package_id=183331&release_id=666767 > > [bugs]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/Tickets > > [site]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown > > > > Release Notes: > > =========== > > > > * Major refactor of the core and extension API. Extension authors > > should see the included documentation in > > `docs/writing_extensions.txt`. All parts of the syntax are now > > completely overridable by extensions. > > > > * Numerous extensions added to the standard distribution (off by > > default), including an "extra" extension which matches PHP Markdown > > Extra. See the `markdown/extensions/` directory for the full list. > > > > * The code has been refactored into a full Python library with a > > separate command line script. > > > > * Optional output of XHTML1 (default) or HTML4 with the option for > > extensions to add more. > > > > * Uses ElementTree to build (X)HTML document rather than home-grown > > NanoDom. > > > > * Most of the differences in Python-Markdown's output compared to perl > > and/or php have been eliminated. > > > > * And much more... See the changelog and [Git log][] for more details. > > > > [Git log]: > http://gitorious.org/projects/python-markdown/repos/mainline/logs > > > > -- > > ---- > > \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| > > Waylan Limberg > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San > > Francisco, CA > > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > > Enterprise > > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > > participation > > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source > > code: SFAD > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > > _______________________________________________ > > Python-markdown-discuss mailing list > > Pyt...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are > powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and > easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development > software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. > Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com > _______________________________________________ > Python-markdown-discuss mailing list > Pyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss > |
From: Ron G. <ron...@gm...> - 2009-03-23 18:34:30
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Thanks! On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Yuri Takhteyev wrote: > See http://gitorious.org/projects/python-markdown/repos/mainline > > - yuri > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Ron Garret <ron...@gm...> > wrote: >> This is probably a stupid question, but since there have already been >> changes since 2.0rc1 I want to check the code out directly from >> gitorious. How do I do it? I know how to use git, I just don't know >> which URI to use. >> >> Thanks, >> rg >> >> On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Waylan Limberg wrote: >> >>> I am pleased to announce that after much hard work, a Release >>> Candidate for Python Markdown version 2.0 is now available for >>> [download][]. Please, download it, install it, test it, beat it... >>> and >>> report any [bugs][]. Assuming no major bugs, we will release 2.0 >>> final >>> approximately one month from today. Until then, the project [site][] >>> will continue to document version 1.7. Updated documentation is >>> available in the `doc/` directory in the source files. Hopefully, >>> all >>> the included extensions will be documented before the final release. >>> >>> [download]: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=153041&package_id=183331&release_id=666767 >>> [bugs]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/Tickets >>> [site]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown >>> >>> Release Notes: >>> =========== >>> >>> * Major refactor of the core and extension API. Extension authors >>> should see the included documentation in >>> `docs/writing_extensions.txt`. All parts of the syntax are now >>> completely overridable by extensions. >>> >>> * Numerous extensions added to the standard distribution (off by >>> default), including an "extra" extension which matches PHP Markdown >>> Extra. See the `markdown/extensions/` directory for the full list. >>> >>> * The code has been refactored into a full Python library with a >>> separate command line script. >>> >>> * Optional output of XHTML1 (default) or HTML4 with the option for >>> extensions to add more. >>> >>> * Uses ElementTree to build (X)HTML document rather than home-grown >>> NanoDom. >>> >>> * Most of the differences in Python-Markdown's output compared to >>> perl >>> and/or php have been eliminated. >>> >>> * And much more... See the changelog and [Git log][] for more >>> details. >>> >>> [Git log]: http://gitorious.org/projects/python-markdown/repos/mainline/logs >>> >>> -- >>> ---- >>> \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| >>> Waylan Limberg >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San >>> Francisco, CA >>> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the >>> Enterprise >>> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source >>> participation >>> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source >>> code: SFAD >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Python-markdown-discuss mailing list >>> Pyt...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) >> are >> powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. >> Quickly and >> easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based >> development >> software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. >> Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-markdown-discuss mailing list >> Pyt...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss >> > > > > -- > http://spu.tnik.org/ |
From: Yuri T. <qar...@gm...> - 2009-03-23 18:26:15
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See http://gitorious.org/projects/python-markdown/repos/mainline - yuri On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Ron Garret <ron...@gm...> wrote: > This is probably a stupid question, but since there have already been > changes since 2.0rc1 I want to check the code out directly from > gitorious. How do I do it? I know how to use git, I just don't know > which URI to use. > > Thanks, > rg > > On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Waylan Limberg wrote: > >> I am pleased to announce that after much hard work, a Release >> Candidate for Python Markdown version 2.0 is now available for >> [download][]. Please, download it, install it, test it, beat it... and >> report any [bugs][]. Assuming no major bugs, we will release 2.0 final >> approximately one month from today. Until then, the project [site][] >> will continue to document version 1.7. Updated documentation is >> available in the `doc/` directory in the source files. Hopefully, all >> the included extensions will be documented before the final release. >> >> [download]: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=153041&package_id=183331&release_id=666767 >> [bugs]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/Tickets >> [site]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown >> >> Release Notes: >> =========== >> >> * Major refactor of the core and extension API. Extension authors >> should see the included documentation in >> `docs/writing_extensions.txt`. All parts of the syntax are now >> completely overridable by extensions. >> >> * Numerous extensions added to the standard distribution (off by >> default), including an "extra" extension which matches PHP Markdown >> Extra. See the `markdown/extensions/` directory for the full list. >> >> * The code has been refactored into a full Python library with a >> separate command line script. >> >> * Optional output of XHTML1 (default) or HTML4 with the option for >> extensions to add more. >> >> * Uses ElementTree to build (X)HTML document rather than home-grown >> NanoDom. >> >> * Most of the differences in Python-Markdown's output compared to perl >> and/or php have been eliminated. >> >> * And much more... See the changelog and [Git log][] for more details. >> >> [Git log]: http://gitorious.org/projects/python-markdown/repos/mainline/logs >> >> -- >> ---- >> \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| >> Waylan Limberg >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San >> Francisco, CA >> -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the >> Enterprise >> -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source >> participation >> -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source >> code: SFAD >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-markdown-discuss mailing list >> Pyt...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are > powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and > easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development > software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. > Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com > _______________________________________________ > Python-markdown-discuss mailing list > Pyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss > -- http://spu.tnik.org/ |
From: Ron G. <ron...@gm...> - 2009-03-23 17:52:26
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This is probably a stupid question, but since there have already been changes since 2.0rc1 I want to check the code out directly from gitorious. How do I do it? I know how to use git, I just don't know which URI to use. Thanks, rg On Mar 8, 2009, at 7:27 PM, Waylan Limberg wrote: > I am pleased to announce that after much hard work, a Release > Candidate for Python Markdown version 2.0 is now available for > [download][]. Please, download it, install it, test it, beat it... and > report any [bugs][]. Assuming no major bugs, we will release 2.0 final > approximately one month from today. Until then, the project [site][] > will continue to document version 1.7. Updated documentation is > available in the `doc/` directory in the source files. Hopefully, all > the included extensions will be documented before the final release. > > [download]: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=153041&package_id=183331&release_id=666767 > [bugs]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/Tickets > [site]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown > > Release Notes: > =========== > > * Major refactor of the core and extension API. Extension authors > should see the included documentation in > `docs/writing_extensions.txt`. All parts of the syntax are now > completely overridable by extensions. > > * Numerous extensions added to the standard distribution (off by > default), including an "extra" extension which matches PHP Markdown > Extra. See the `markdown/extensions/` directory for the full list. > > * The code has been refactored into a full Python library with a > separate command line script. > > * Optional output of XHTML1 (default) or HTML4 with the option for > extensions to add more. > > * Uses ElementTree to build (X)HTML document rather than home-grown > NanoDom. > > * Most of the differences in Python-Markdown's output compared to perl > and/or php have been eliminated. > > * And much more... See the changelog and [Git log][] for more details. > > [Git log]: http://gitorious.org/projects/python-markdown/repos/mainline/logs > > -- > ---- > \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| > Waylan Limberg > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San > Francisco, CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source > code: SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Python-markdown-discuss mailing list > Pyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss |
From: Holger R. <Hol...@gm...> - 2009-03-19 06:42:10
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Hi, >> >> I only discovered one bug. I wanted to add a <hr> after my toc, so i >> did: >> >> <snip> >> [TOC] >> ---------- >> </snap> > > Well, without the toc extension, that produces ``<h2>[TOC]</h2>`` [1]. > So don't do that. You wouldn't get a ``<hr>`` anyway. If you really > want a ``<hr>``, you need to have a blank line before it. Aah, this was entirely my fault. I keep forgetting about marking headlines this way. > That said, it shouldn't crash. So I just pushed a fix and test. Thanks > for the report. Agreed. Thanks for fixing! Thanks for the quick reply! Cheers, Holger |
From: Waylan L. <wa...@gm...> - 2009-03-18 23:20:42
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Holger Rapp <Hol...@gm...> wrote: > Hey, > > i just found the TOC extension in current git repository, and I love it! Glad to hear it. > > I only discovered one bug. I wanted to add a <hr> after my toc, so i > did: > > <snip> > [TOC] > ---------- > </snap> Well, without the toc extension, that produces ``<h2>[TOC]</h2>`` [1]. So don't do that. You wouldn't get a ``<hr>`` anyway. If you really want a ``<hr>``, you need to have a blank line before it. That said, it shouldn't crash. So I just pushed a fix and test. Thanks for the report. It turns out the marker was causing an infinite loop where it would build a new toc inside the toc item pointing to the header with the marker. To avoid it, I have disallowed the marker in any headers (h1-6). The marker is just passed through as text in the header (``<h2>[TOC]</h2>``). The unexpected result should clue the document author into the problem with his/her markup without any crashes. [1]: http://babelmark.bobtfish.net/?markdown=[TOC]%0D%0A---------- -- ---- \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| Waylan Limberg |
From: Holger R. <Hol...@gm...> - 2009-03-18 21:07:22
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Hey, i just found the TOC extension in current git repository, and I love it! I only discovered one bug. I wanted to add a <hr> after my toc, so i did: <snip> [TOC] ---------- </snap> this crashes my interpretor. Here is a snippet to reproduce. $ m = markdown.Markdown(("toc",)); m.convert("[TOC]\n-------") current git revision. Greetings, Holger |
From: Artem Y. <se...@sp...> - 2009-03-18 07:05:58
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On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Waylan Limberg <wa...@gm...> wrote: > Thanks Artem. Are those numbers averages from multiple runs there? In > other words, is this something I can use in the release notes? > Although, all I really need is a percentage of change - probably just > for the "markdown-syntax" document. I got this numbers using test-markdown.py, it repeats every test 10 times, so it's not average, it's sum, but for percentage it will be enough. I did it few times and numbers were almost the same. But I can redo it with timeit module to get better accuracy. > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Artem Yunusov <se...@sp...> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Yuri Takhteyev <qar...@gm...> > wrote: > >> BTW, has anyone done any benchmarks recently comparing the performance > >> of this new release candidate to 1.7? > > > > I did today, here is some of the results: > > > > 1.7 version: > > markdown-syntax:1.240000 > > bracket_re:2.870000 > > ordered-and-unordered-list:0.190000 > > > > 2.0 release candidate: > > markdown-syntax:0.880000 > > bracket_re:1.670000 > > ordered-and-unordered-list:0.150000 > > > > > -- > ---- > \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| > Waylan Limberg Regards, Artem |
From: Waylan L. <wa...@gm...> - 2009-03-17 14:05:53
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Thanks Artem. Are those numbers averages from multiple runs there? In other words, is this something I can use in the release notes? Although, all I really need is a percentage of change - probably just for the "markdown-syntax" document. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Artem Yunusov <se...@sp...> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Yuri Takhteyev <qar...@gm...> wrote: >> BTW, has anyone done any benchmarks recently comparing the performance >> of this new release candidate to 1.7? > > I did today, here is some of the results: > > 1.7 version: > markdown-syntax:1.240000 > bracket_re:2.870000 > ordered-and-unordered-list:0.190000 > > 2.0 release candidate: > markdown-syntax:0.880000 > bracket_re:1.670000 > ordered-and-unordered-list:0.150000 -- ---- \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| Waylan Limberg |
From: Yuri T. <qar...@gm...> - 2009-03-13 22:19:03
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> that they get around this by spelling the command line script > differently - usually with capitalization. In most cases the lib is > CamelCased and the script is all lower case. Obviously, to retain > backwards compatibility that's not an option for us. We shouldn't rename the library name, but we _can_ give a different name to the executable on Windows. - yuri -- http://spu.tnik.org/ |
From: Artem Y. <se...@sp...> - 2009-03-13 21:44:57
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:17 AM, Yuri Takhteyev <qar...@gm...> wrote: > > Glad it's almost released! I think performance increase should be also > > mentioned. > > Yes, as well as the fact that Artem's work was crucial for getting > this version of the ground last summer! > Thanks, > > BTW, has anyone done any benchmarks recently comparing the performance > of this new release candidate to 1.7? > I did today, here is some of the results: 1.7 version: markdown-syntax:1.240000 bracket_re:2.870000 ordered-and-unordered-list:0.190000 2.0 release candidate: markdown-syntax:0.880000 bracket_re:1.670000 ordered-and-unordered-list:0.150000 So it didn't lose speed superiority! > - yuri > Regards, Artem > > -- > http://spu.tnik.org/ > |
From: Waylan L. <wa...@gm...> - 2009-03-13 19:52:53
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So I finally got around to testing the exe installable for 2.0-rc1 today. It worked fine, but the command line script does not work properly. It seems that on Windows, when a command line script tries to import a lib of the same name it fails. Apparently, it tries to import itself instead and returns an import error. AFAICT, this is *not* a problem in Linux systems. Looking at a few other libs I have installed on my system, it appears that they get around this by spelling the command line script differently - usually with capitalization. In most cases the lib is CamelCased and the script is all lower case. Obviously, to retain backwards compatibility that's not an option for us. Anyone have any suggestions or know of any solutions? -- ---- \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| Waylan Limberg |
From: Waylan L. <wa...@gm...> - 2009-03-12 00:24:09
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FYI, I just pushed this to the Git repo. Check it out and report back with any problems. As an aside, I am really loving the improvements we made to the extension API. I didn't spend more than 2 hours total (including researching existing syntax etc) to do everything. And most of one of those hours was wasted fretting over the html4 vs. xhtml output. I think it's possible to do anything with an extension now. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Waylan Limberg <wa...@gm...> wrote: > Btw, before you spend your time working on this, I just whipped one > up. I still have a few edge cases to work out, but I think I'll be > replacing the existing tables extension once I do. > > One thing that almost had me stumped is ElementTree's output for empty > cells. I'm getting ``<td />`` rather than ``<td></td>``. If I give all > empty cells a single space, then I get ``<td> </td>``, but that feels > like a dirty hack and doesn't match PHP's output either. If I switch > ``output_format='HTML4'``, then I get the desired ``<td></td>``. As it > turns out, the XHTML output (``<td />``) is valid XHTML (I just > checked), so I guess I'll leave it. > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Waylan Limberg <wa...@gm...> wrote: >> Your welcome Holger. See `docs/writing_extensions.txt` in the source >> for full documentation. You may also want to look at the definition >> list extension as an example. >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Holger Rapp <Ra...@mr...> wrote: >>> Thanks for the quick fix, waylan. I will check it out, most probably >>> this weekend. >>> Can you point me to examples/documentation for implementing a >>> blockprocessor extension? I badly need table support >>> for the wiki of widelands.org and I will most likely hack something >>> anyway, so I can as well do it right and implement it in markdown. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Holger >>> >>> >>> Am 10.03.2009 um 03:49 schrieb Waylan Limberg: >>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Holger Rapp <Ra...@mr...> wrote: >>>> [snip] >>>>> >>>>> tables extension seems to replace all <p> elements with <table>... >>>>> This is >>>>> pretty broken. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for the report Holger. I just pushed a fix to the repo. Turns >>>> out that code was pretty naive. This is the first I've looked at that >>>> extension very closely and I'd say the entire extension could use a >>>> refactor (rewritten as a blockprocessor), but at least a fix is in for >>>> now. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ---- >>>> \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| >>>> Waylan Limberg >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Python-markdown-discuss mailing list >>> Pyt...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ---- >> \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| >> Waylan Limberg >> > > > > -- > ---- > \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| > Waylan Limberg > -- ---- \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| Waylan Limberg |
From: Yuri T. <qar...@gm...> - 2009-03-11 00:17:13
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> Glad it's almost released! I think performance increase should be also > mentioned. Yes, as well as the fact that Artem's work was crucial for getting this version of the ground last summer! BTW, has anyone done any benchmarks recently comparing the performance of this new release candidate to 1.7? - yuri -- http://spu.tnik.org/ |
From: Artem Y. <se...@sp...> - 2009-03-11 00:04:21
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Glad it's almost released! I think performance increase should be also mentioned. Best Regards, Artem Yunusov On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Waylan Limberg <wa...@gm...> wrote: > I am pleased to announce that after much hard work, a Release > Candidate for Python Markdown version 2.0 is now available for > [download][]. Please, download it, install it, test it, beat it... and > report any [bugs][]. Assuming no major bugs, we will release 2.0 final > approximately one month from today. Until then, the project [site][] > will continue to document version 1.7. Updated documentation is > available in the `doc/` directory in the source files. Hopefully, all > the included extensions will be documented before the final release. > > [download]: > https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=153041&package_id=183331&release_id=666767 > [bugs]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown/Tickets > [site]: http://www.freewisdom.org/projects/python-markdown > > Release Notes: > =========== > > * Major refactor of the core and extension API. Extension authors > should see the included documentation in > `docs/writing_extensions.txt`. All parts of the syntax are now > completely overridable by extensions. > > * Numerous extensions added to the standard distribution (off by > default), including an "extra" extension which matches PHP Markdown > Extra. See the `markdown/extensions/` directory for the full list. > > * The code has been refactored into a full Python library with a > separate command line script. > > * Optional output of XHTML1 (default) or HTML4 with the option for > extensions to add more. > > * Uses ElementTree to build (X)HTML document rather than home-grown > NanoDom. > > * Most of the differences in Python-Markdown's output compared to perl > and/or php have been eliminated. > > * And much more... See the changelog and [Git log][] for more details. > > [Git log]: > http://gitorious.org/projects/python-markdown/repos/mainline/logs > > -- > ---- > \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| > Waylan Limberg > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, > CA > -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the > Enterprise > -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source > participation > -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: > SFAD > http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H > _______________________________________________ > Python-markdown-discuss mailing list > Pyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss > |
From: Waylan L. <wa...@gm...> - 2009-03-10 21:50:45
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Btw, before you spend your time working on this, I just whipped one up. I still have a few edge cases to work out, but I think I'll be replacing the existing tables extension once I do. One thing that almost had me stumped is ElementTree's output for empty cells. I'm getting ``<td />`` rather than ``<td></td>``. If I give all empty cells a single space, then I get ``<td> </td>``, but that feels like a dirty hack and doesn't match PHP's output either. If I switch ``output_format='HTML4'``, then I get the desired ``<td></td>``. As it turns out, the XHTML output (``<td />``) is valid XHTML (I just checked), so I guess I'll leave it. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Waylan Limberg <wa...@gm...> wrote: > Your welcome Holger. See `docs/writing_extensions.txt` in the source > for full documentation. You may also want to look at the definition > list extension as an example. > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Holger Rapp <Ra...@mr...> wrote: >> Thanks for the quick fix, waylan. I will check it out, most probably >> this weekend. >> Can you point me to examples/documentation for implementing a >> blockprocessor extension? I badly need table support >> for the wiki of widelands.org and I will most likely hack something >> anyway, so I can as well do it right and implement it in markdown. >> >> Greetings, >> Holger >> >> >> Am 10.03.2009 um 03:49 schrieb Waylan Limberg: >> >>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Holger Rapp <Ra...@mr...> wrote: >>> [snip] >>>> >>>> tables extension seems to replace all <p> elements with <table>... >>>> This is >>>> pretty broken. >>>> >>> >>> Thanks for the report Holger. I just pushed a fix to the repo. Turns >>> out that code was pretty naive. This is the first I've looked at that >>> extension very closely and I'd say the entire extension could use a >>> refactor (rewritten as a blockprocessor), but at least a fix is in for >>> now. >>> >>> -- >>> ---- >>> \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| >>> Waylan Limberg >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Python-markdown-discuss mailing list >> Pyt...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss >> > > > > -- > ---- > \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| > Waylan Limberg > -- ---- \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| Waylan Limberg |
From: Waylan L. <wa...@gm...> - 2009-03-10 12:49:09
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Your welcome Holger. See `docs/writing_extensions.txt` in the source for full documentation. You may also want to look at the definition list extension as an example. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Holger Rapp <Ra...@mr...> wrote: > Thanks for the quick fix, waylan. I will check it out, most probably > this weekend. > Can you point me to examples/documentation for implementing a > blockprocessor extension? I badly need table support > for the wiki of widelands.org and I will most likely hack something > anyway, so I can as well do it right and implement it in markdown. > > Greetings, > Holger > > > Am 10.03.2009 um 03:49 schrieb Waylan Limberg: > >> On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Holger Rapp <Ra...@mr...> wrote: >> [snip] >>> >>> tables extension seems to replace all <p> elements with <table>... >>> This is >>> pretty broken. >>> >> >> Thanks for the report Holger. I just pushed a fix to the repo. Turns >> out that code was pretty naive. This is the first I've looked at that >> extension very closely and I'd say the entire extension could use a >> refactor (rewritten as a blockprocessor), but at least a fix is in for >> now. >> >> -- >> ---- >> \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| >> Waylan Limberg > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Python-markdown-discuss mailing list > Pyt...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/python-markdown-discuss > -- ---- \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| Waylan Limberg |
From: Holger R. <Ra...@mr...> - 2009-03-10 07:54:58
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Thanks for the quick fix, waylan. I will check it out, most probably this weekend. Can you point me to examples/documentation for implementing a blockprocessor extension? I badly need table support for the wiki of widelands.org and I will most likely hack something anyway, so I can as well do it right and implement it in markdown. Greetings, Holger Am 10.03.2009 um 03:49 schrieb Waylan Limberg: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Holger Rapp <Ra...@mr...> wrote: > [snip] >> >> tables extension seems to replace all <p> elements with <table>... >> This is >> pretty broken. >> > > Thanks for the report Holger. I just pushed a fix to the repo. Turns > out that code was pretty naive. This is the first I've looked at that > extension very closely and I'd say the entire extension could use a > refactor (rewritten as a blockprocessor), but at least a fix is in for > now. > > -- > ---- > \X/ /-\ `/ |_ /-\ |\| > Waylan Limberg |