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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2010-05-06 13:59:44
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I am responsible for the aspect-oriented part of Pythius, and due to the merging of classes with types in Python 2.2 or such, the AOP part is now broken. Pythius is largely unmaintained at this point, but unfortunately I do not have enough information to point you in a new direction. -- Frank Shafeek Naidoo, on 2010-05-06, wrote: > Hi all > Ive recently commenced on a research project that deals with aspect > oriented programming. > I would like to use pythius, but can find no tutorials or howtos to start. > > Any ideas? > Or alternatively could you point me in the right direction please? > > Much appreciated. > > |
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From: Shafeek N. <sha...@gm...> - 2010-05-06 07:03:36
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Hi all Ive recently commenced on a research project that deals with aspect oriented programming. I would like to use pythius, but can find no tutorials or howtos to start. Any ideas? Or alternatively could you point me in the right direction please? Much appreciated. -- Shafeek Naidoo Software Engineer| Email:sha...@gm...|Cell:0727607549|skype:cjshafeek |
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<p><font size="4">12、《企业文化建设系统》1盘</font></p>
<p><font size="4">本节将中国五千年的传统文化探讨开始，紧密结合现代社会、现代商场、现代企业的实际需求，从6个角度和层
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3、 人力资源与组织建设<br>
4、 中层管理的变革<br>
5、 规范化管理（包括会议规范化）<br>
6、 现代人力资源管理思路<br>
7、 人才吸纳与留用系统<br>
8、 人才选拔与测评系统<br>
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11、 企业培训系统<br>
12、 企业文化建设<br>
13、 企业人际关系与沟通<br>
14、 战略计划与目标管理</font></p>
<p><font size="4">1、《成功企业的标志与特征》1盘<br>
本节展示了一个成功企业的标志：各发展阶段的特征，现代企业三个经济增长点的判断与把握，以及企业迈向持续成功的战略性管
理程序的设计。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">2、《企业管理的意识基础――危机管理》2盘<br>
本节展示了各类企业人力资源管理的关键问题――意识基础错位，阐述了中国企业全面导入危机管理意识的战略意义，以及如何在
企业内植入危机管理神经系统的12根“主神
经”。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">3、《人力资源与组织建设》1盘<br>
本节深入阐述了企业组织行为的5个原则标准，以及传统的“塔式管理”中出现的“占山为王”、“黑箱操作”“边际矛盾”、“
沟通受阻”、“授权受阻”等根源性弊
端。</font></p>
<p><font size="4"> 本片以案例的方式讲述了西方企业之所以能够迅速扩张的主要原因：管理模式变革。具体讲述了无边际管理
、矩阵式管理、项目管理、动态目标管理、
数字化管理等一系列先进管理模式的结构特点和使用方法。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">4、《中层管理队伍变革》1盘<br>
本节明确阐述了21世纪的企业中层管理队伍将会发生“第四类衰减”的必然性；本世纪企业中层管理者必须具备的六个方面的全新
素质。这对企业中层管理队伍的建设将起到
十分重要的作用。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">5、《规范化管理系统》2盘<br>
本节站在企业实际运作的角度，阐述怎样为您的企业“量身订造”一套操作手册。手册的编制可使企业绝大部分的日常工作可以“
照本子办事”，减少大量的矛盾、误会、内
耗和反授权现象，这是企业正常运转的基础。</font></p>
<p><font size="4"> 本章节中“有效会议”内容生动幽默，既切中中国企业会议的时弊，又展示了一个有效会议的规范标准，这
对企业如何树立正确的内部文化提供了一个
典型范例。会议的价值；会议中禁忌用语；会议前的探讨事项；会议室应准备事项；如何主持会议；出席会议前的准备；会议中应有的表现；会
议议程简报模式；会议总结报表模
拟。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">6、《人力资源管理概述》1盘<br>
本节从中国、日本、英国人力资源管理沿革开始，全面讲述人力资源管理的特点；人力资源管理部与人事部的区别；导入人力资源
管理的程序；具体将企业人力资源部门的工
作分为三大模块、八个功能，并分别进行了深入细致的功能表述。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">7、《人才吸纳与留用系统》2盘<br>
本节结合中国五千年来传统文化对中国人的影响，结合西方企业人力资源管理理念的成功经验，讲述了中国企业在人力资源管理中
一个非常重要的要素：企业留人机制的建立
与健全。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">8、《人才选用与测评系统》2盘<br>
本节以30个现代企业测评系统为版本，同时讲述了360度测评工具的使用方法。360度测评系统不但可以为企业人力资源的评估提供
一个很好的工具，也能够先知先觉地为各类
管理人才的招聘、使用、发展和考评提供一个完善的帮助。</font></p>
<p><font size="4"> 企业人才使用规律和误区；企业所需人才的基本要求；企业招聘的申请、实施、测评、录用、签约流程；把
握人才标准和招聘测评的方法；常用面试考
核表；特别的招聘方法；心理测评的基本概念；人才测评的主要技术。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">组织行为与人力资源评价系统<br>
个性品质测验；职业适应性测验；能力测验；组织行为评估；情况模拟测试；面向高绩效管理测验；管理变革、团队领导技能、人
际关系管理、沟通技能测验。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">9、《绩效考评系统》1盘<br>
本节讲述企业在导入人力资源系统时，怎样全面导入和实施绩效考评系统。作为人事决策时重要的参考指标，该系统可将员工的具
体表现记录下来，并将薪酬、福利与奖励结
合在一起，鼓励员工发必自我。同时，该系统也为企业制定人力资源发展规划和培训计划，提供了可靠的依据。该系统也是有效授权的理想工具
，能够使企业从人治走向法
制。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">10、《薪酬激励系统与实例》1盘<br>
本节以实务的角度，不讲及多高深的理论，而是把人力资源管理系统薪酬机制的工资、奖金、福利系统分解成三部分：即（一）“
吃的饱的”（工资）；（二）“干得好的”
（奖金）；（三）“走不了的”（福利）。全面讲述了现代企业里一个效培训系统的建立与健全，以及怎样才能真正产生培训的实
效。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">11、《企业培训系统》1盘<br>
本节明确提出现代培训系统时典型的“二象限投资”，因此必须先得到企业高层决策者真正的认同和支持。同时也全面讲述了在现
代化企业里一个有效培训系统的建立与健全
，以及怎样才能真正产生培训的实效。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">12、《企业文化建设系统》1盘</font></p>
<p><font size="4">本节将中国五千年的传统文化探讨开始，紧密结合现代社会、现代商场、现代企业的实际需求，从6个角度和层
面来探讨企业文化。帮助您的企业建立起真
正务实的企业文化，使企业、团队、员工构筑起一个共同的远景，达到最大程度的“均衡”，确保企业的健康发展。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">13、《企业人际关系与沟通》2盘<br>
本节以务实为原则，讲述了现代企业中人与人之间的沟通；上级与下级的沟通；下级与上级的沟通；部门与部门的沟通；现代企业
管理系统中6条全方位双向沟通网络系统的
建立与健全。</font></p>
<p><font size="4">14、《战略计划与目标管理》2盘<br>
本片讲述了企业战略规划的制定；企业中层管理者与战略规划的关系；企业战略规划下策略的制定以及工作目标设定、动态目标管
理、工作计划的设定与实施等等。并通过典
型案例加以说明，极具实用性。</font></p>
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2003-03-05 08:55:33
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Etienne Labuschagne, on 2003-03-05, wrote: > I have checked the test module and found an error in it. The testing > module never does the inherited class test (don't know if it was > intentionally disabled). After fixing this, the testing module failed > with the inherited class test with the same problem I got (I have > commented the parts in the testing module I have changed). Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I hate having bugs floating around in programs I've written. I'll look into the issue :) -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2003-02-26 21:32:41
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Adrien Di Mascio, on 2003-02-26, wrote:
> What I would like to do is to check when "self.l" is changed
> (self.l.append() or self.l.pop() or ...) . I tried to add a
> "self.before('setattr', 'l', self.list_changed)" but it didn't work.
A 'setattr' of attribute L on object O is not the same as that attribute
'changing', e.g., by o.l.append(), o.l.pop().
I think the only way you could approach the problem you want to solve with
Pythius is to have the L attribute itself (and not its 'holder')
subclass the class 'list' and be the 'aspectified' object and have a bunch
of statements that cover each 'modifying' method such as:
self.after('method_call', 'pop', self.i_changed)
self.after('method_call', 'append', self.i_changed)
Other than that, there's no real way for the 'holder' of L to know that an
attribute of itself has changed values, especially if you started doing
things like:
l2 = o.l
l2.append('foo') # this changed o.l
Sorry that's there's no easy answer to your question :(
--
Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/
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From: Adrien Di M. <Adr...@lo...> - 2003-02-26 16:50:37
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Hi all,
I'm pretty new in AOP, and I'm looking for all kind of AOP-related stuff
for Python. I found Pythius, and I'm trying to use the Logger aspect in
a small program.
It seems to work fine, but I had a small problem.
I would like to add some log-events when a list is modified.
Suppose I have :
#####################################
class A:
__metaclass__ = aop.Metaclass
_aspect = my_logger()
def __init__(self):
self.l = []
...
#####################################
What I would like to do is to check when "self.l" is changed
(self.l.append() or self.l.pop() or ...) . I tried
to add a "self.before('setattr', 'l', self.list_changed)" but it didn't
work.
How could I do what I'm trying to do ?
This may be a basic problem, but I'm a newbie with all this stuff.
Cheers,
Adrien.
--
Adrien Di Mascio
LOGILAB, Paris (France).
http://www.logilab.com http://www.logilab.fr http://www.logilab.org
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From: <Arn...@si...> - 2002-09-02 08:08:44
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Hello, You stated that pythius need CPython 2.2.1. However Jython /Python on top of Java supprots currently only The Python 2.1 plattform. Is Jython 2.1 sufficent for AOP.py alone? kind regards Arno |
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From: Juergen H. <jh...@we...> - 2002-07-22 10:16:05
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On Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:12:07 -0400 (EDT), Frank Tobin wrote: >I didn't catch this sentence on my first reading, so I'm addressing it >now. At fisrt, this seems like a good idea, but I'm ambivalent about t= he >non-standardness of this. It might be the least evil solution, though.= Well, having a package in two different forms ist very non-standard, too= . Actually, distutils and Python in general do not really support division= s below the top-level namespace. The non-standardness of having a setup.py that checks some option (--aop= - only) can be restricted to the developer side (especially if you do a "sdist" and that source package remembers it's aop-only). Or viewed from the other side, if we really have two separate cvs module= s, we have to have separate python packages, too. Everything else, besides those two options, leads into evilness. Ciao, J=FCrgen -- J=FCrgen Hermann, Developer (jh...@we...) WEB.DE AG, http://webde-ag.de/ |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-07-22 02:11:28
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Juergen Hermann, on 2002-07-19, wrote: > A better way would be to have options in setup.py (or a 2nd > setup_aop.py) that just packages the right stuff. I didn't catch this sentence on my first reading, so I'm addressing it now. At fisrt, this seems like a good idea, but I'm ambivalent about the non-standardness of this. It might be the least evil solution, though. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-07-19 15:28:12
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Juergen Hermann, on 2002-07-19, wrote: > No, since I hate those, not only due to the fact that they in > consequence contain no package doc string. So scratch zero-length, and > replace it by "identical", which solves all practical problems for me. That's a reasonable objection. The only problem with 'identical' is that there are issues of one changing in one cvs module, and not in the other (nevermind the fact that CVS $Id$ tags would be different). > Remaining problems are that there should probably be a way to check > what is installed (aop only, full, etc.) Why? > Also, on 2nd thinking I despise the idea to create a 2nd cvs module, > duplicating setup.py and all stuff. A better way would be to have > options in setup.py (or a 2nd setup_aop.py) that just packages the > right stuff. I wouldn't be duplicating, since the setup.py and such would be significantly simpler than the current one, and more able to accurately describe the pythius.aop module (e.g., differences such as LGPL, etc). > This way, it's much easier to create tailored distributions. I'm not following what you mean here. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Juergen H. <jh...@we...> - 2002-07-19 08:05:22
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On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:27:21 -0400 (EDT), Frank Tobin wrote: >Does a zero-length pythius/__init__.py seem like a good solution? No, since I hate those, not only due to the fact that they in consequence contain no package doc string. So scratch zero-length, and replace it by "identical", which solves all practical problems for me. Remaining problems are that there should probably be a way to check what is installed (aop only, full, etc.) Also, on 2nd thinking I despise the idea to create a 2nd cvs module, duplicating setup.py and all stuff. A better way would be to have options in setup.py (or a 2nd setup_aop.py) that just packages the right stuff. This way, it's much easier to create tailored distributions. Let me look at it this weekend. Ciao, J=FCrgen |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-07-19 03:27:09
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Juergen Hermann, on 2002-07-12, wrote: > You could also open a new CVS module, and a new package in the release > section. But this is totally up to you. Doing it this way, I'm trying to figure out how get the installed aop module named something like pythius.aop. The trouble is that in order to have pythius.aop, pythius/__init__.py needs to exist (to indicate that pythius/ is a package directory). The current pythius distribution gives this file (so things like pythius.util and pythius.grok can exist), so if a separate pythius.aop distribution gave it also, we would have two separate distributions giving the same file. Until about 5 minutes ago, I didn't have an idea on how to approach this cleanly, but now I think I have a solution. In noting that pythius/__init.__.py doesn't really do anything, I think the way to do this would be to have both packages give the file, but have it be a zero-length file. This way, there would be 'change' if you happened to install old-style pythius or pythius.aop first, and followed it up with the other. Does a zero-length pythius/__init__.py seem like a good solution? -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-07-13 22:51:36
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Juergen Hermann, on 2002-07-12, wrote: > You could also open a new CVS module, and a new package in the release > section. But this is totally up to you. That seems like a good idea. I like the idea of keeping the referenced name of the module pythius.aop, to help people still think of it as the same product. I think putting it into its own cvs module will help people get just the parts they want out of Pythius, sort of like with KDE, you can get library support, kdelibs, by itself, or if you want more, kdebase. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Juergen H. <jh...@we...> - 2002-07-12 21:11:42
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On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:47:27 -0400 (EDT), Frank Tobin wrote: >Therefore within the next few days I plan on developing/distribution th= e >aop.py module as a project of its own. Hopefully distributing it as an= >independent, small module might increase its usage. You could also open a new CVS module, and a new package in the release section. But this is totally up to you. Ciao, J=FCrgen |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-07-12 20:47:21
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As I've mentioned before, I've had some worries about incorporating the aop.py module into Pythius, since it seems fairly stale. Also, I feel that many people would be simply looking for an AOP module, and, if they do come across Pythius, might be confused in the aop.py module interacts with the rest Pythius, etc. I think the goals of Pythius and the aop.py module are quite different; Pythius could depend on aop.py for some of its metrics, but the aop module is quite independent, quite usable on its own. Therefore within the next few days I plan on developing/distribution the aop.py module as a project of its own. Hopefully distributing it as an independent, small module might increase its usage. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-07-08 04:22:15
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I just released Pythius 1.4. From the CHANGES file:
Version 1.4
Features:
* pythius.aop (Aspect Oriented Programming) module revamped.
Technique for applying Aspects to classes changed
around, now using the __metaclass__ class attribute.
Now handles new-style classes much better, and
is much more efficient. Regular-expression-matching
has been removed.
--
Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-03-21 22:09:48
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Juergen Hermann, on 2002-03-12, wrote: > Sorry. I was involved in other projects, and let that slip. Just gave you > admin & release rights on the project, please test them out. Okay, I just put up a Pythius 1.3 on SourceForge, and created a Freshmeat listing (http://freshmeat.net/projects/pythius/). -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Juergen H. <jh...@we...> - 2002-03-11 23:44:19
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:47:01 -0500 (EST), Frank Tobin wrote: >So, any thoughts on if this is an okay release? I'm getting kind of >depressed by any lack of input. I hooked up with Pythius to find a pla= ce >where an AOP module could be implemented, but it has been about 3 month= s >since I 'completed' a workable, releasable version of aop.py. Sorry. I was involved in other projects, and let that slip. Just gave yo= u admin & release rights on the project, please test them out. If I let slip things again, kick me insistently, I can take it. :) Ciao, J=FCrgen |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-03-11 22:47:03
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Frank Tobin, on 2002-03-02, wrote: > Okay, I've gotten around to getting a release of Pythius ready; I don't > have perimssions to make a release on SF, so I'm attaching a tarball of > what I could scrounge together. Please take a look and put it up for a > release if it's ready. So, any thoughts on if this is an okay release? I'm getting kind of depressed by any lack of input. I hooked up with Pythius to find a place where an AOP module could be implemented, but it has been about 3 months since I 'completed' a workable, releasable version of aop.py. If you think Pythius is dead, just let me know, and I'll just move the AOP module into an independent bundle. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-03-04 23:42:27
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I tried posting a tarball of a prepared release to this, but it has been held up because it was 3K too large (currently in the admin queue). Could someone take a look at it? -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-03-02 07:27:05
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Okay, I've gotten around to getting a release of Pythius ready; I don't have perimssions to make a release on SF, so I'm attaching a tarball of what I could scrounge together. Please take a look and put it up for a release if it's ready. -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Frank T. <ft...@ne...> - 2002-01-17 00:06:33
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Juergen Hermann, at 01:02 +0100 on 2002-01-17, wrote: > Just do a full release. I'm not sure what you mean. The only releases I've done of Python modules are with my GnuPGInterface module (py-gnupg project on SF), where I have a setup.py, and other metadata files (NEWS, MANIFEST, README, etc) along with the actual module. Do you mean: 'Do a full release of Pythius'? -- Frank Tobin http://www.neverending.org/~ftobin/ |
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From: Juergen H. <jh...@we...> - 2002-01-17 00:01:54
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:17:51 -0500 (EST), Frank Tobin wrote: >Juergen Hermann, at 00:15 +0100 on 2002-01-17, wrote: > >> No clue, never needed that. And I don't really see a reason for the >> separate distro. After all, people can always ignore what they do not= >> need, IMHO it just adds confusion to rip apart things. > >The reason I ask is because the aop.py module is fairly completed, but = the >rest Pythius has stagnated, preventing a release. I'd like to get a >release of the aop.py out, so that I can get comments back on its >usefulness, bugs, etc. Just do a full release. Ciao, J=FCrgen |
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