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From: Nicola L. <ni...@te...> - 2005-10-12 15:38:31
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Hi everybody, while the PyTables packages in Debian unstable are at v.1.1.1, the ones in Ubuntu Breezy are still at 0.9.1, how come? Breezy is due any day now, I don't think anybody would like an old PyTables version in it, right? :-) -- Nicola Larosa - ni...@te... ...I sometimes think it would be nice to be a Tom Cruise or Mel Gibson but like Rome, it's probably a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. -- jgoldblog, May 2002 |
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From: Francesc A. <fa...@ca...> - 2005-10-13 08:23:57
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A Dimecres 12 Octubre 2005 17:38, Nicola Larosa va escriure: > Hi everybody, > while the PyTables packages in Debian unstable are at v.1.1.1, the ones in > Ubuntu Breezy are still at 0.9.1, how come? > > Breezy is due any day now, I don't think anybody would like an old PyTabl= es > version in it, right? :-) That would be a good thing, of course. Here in C=E1rabos we don't have resources enough to provide support for every distribution. Some volunteer for asking the Ubuntu maintainer about that? Cheers, =2D-=20 >0,0< Francesc Altet =A0 =A0 http://www.carabos.com/ V V C=E1rabos Coop. V. =A0=A0Enjoy Data "-" |
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From: Nicola L. <ni...@te...> - 2005-10-13 08:39:17
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>> Hi everybody, >> while the PyTables packages in Debian unstable are at v.1.1.1, the ones in >> Ubuntu Breezy are still at 0.9.1, how come? >> >> Breezy is due any day now, I don't think anybody would like an old PyTables >> version in it, right? :-) > That would be a good thing, of course. Here in Cárabos we don't have > resources enough to provide support for every distribution. Some > volunteer for asking the Ubuntu maintainer about that? That's peculiar: $ cat /etc/issue Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l (the release candidate, actually) $ apt-cache show python-tables Package: python-tables Priority: optional Section: universe/python Installed-Size: 1024 Maintainer: Francesc Alted <fa...@py...> ... It looks like the maintainer is... you! :-) How can this be? -- Nicola Larosa - ni...@te... ...I sometimes think it would be nice to be a Tom Cruise or Mel Gibson but like Rome, it's probably a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. -- jgoldblog, May 2002 |
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From: Francesc A. <fa...@ca...> - 2005-10-13 09:02:32
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A Dijous 13 Octubre 2005 10:39, v=E0reu escriure: > That's peculiar: > > $ cat /etc/issue > Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l > > (the release candidate, actually) > > $ apt-cache show python-tables > Package: python-tables > Priority: optional > Section: universe/python > Installed-Size: 1024 > Maintainer: Francesc Alted <fa...@py...> > ... > > It looks like the maintainer is... you! :-) How can this be? Oh, really? This was completely unexpected for me. Perhaps this is due to that I'm the maintainer for Debian, and because Ubuntu is so close to Debian the package my name remains as the original maintainer. Anyway, PyTables 1.1.1 depends on HDF5 1.6.4 and I'm not sure whether this is in Ubuntu or not, but I strongly suspect that it is not (it should be 1.6.2 instead). HDF5 1.6.4 is even having problems to enter testing distribution in Debian (they are waiting for a recent lam package there). So, all in all, I don't think that PyTables would be ready for Ubuntu Breezy anyway. Some time ago, I've received some patch from an Ubuntu developer (Sebastian Dr=C3ge <sl...@ub...>). Maybe someone might like to get in touch with him. Cheers, =2D-=20 >0,0< Francesc Altet =A0 =A0 http://www.carabos.com/ V V C=E1rabos Coop. V. =A0=A0Enjoy Data "-" |
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From: Norbert N. <Nor...@gm...> - 2005-10-15 13:44:27
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If I understand correctly, Ubuntu just takes packages from
Debian-testing automatically into universe.
The reasons why pytables-1.1.1 is not in testing yet can be found at:
http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=3Dpytables
Seems like a jungle of dependencies on various architectures. Ironically
pytables waits for python-numarray, which again conflicts with
python2.2-tables. (Which should be resolved automatically, when the new
pytables is promoted)
So it seems, the hdf5 problem indirectly even stalls python-numarray...
Further checking seems to indicate that the ultimate problem is in xmpi,
which has been rebuilt only 6 days ago. So it seems that the problem is
being worked on, but in general, it may take a long time before a
dependency jungle like this is worked out on Debian... :-(
Francesc Altet wrote:
>A Dijous 13 Octubre 2005 10:39, v=E0reu escriure:
> =20
>
>>That's peculiar:
>>
>>$ cat /etc/issue
>>Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
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>>(the release candidate, actually)
>>
>>$ apt-cache show python-tables
>>Package: python-tables
>>Priority: optional
>>Section: universe/python
>>Installed-Size: 1024
>>Maintainer: Francesc Alted <fa...@py...>
>>...
>>
>>It looks like the maintainer is... you! :-) How can this be?
>> =20
>>
>
>Oh, really? This was completely unexpected for me. Perhaps this is due
>to that I'm the maintainer for Debian, and because Ubuntu is so close
>to Debian the package my name remains as the original maintainer.
>
>Anyway, PyTables 1.1.1 depends on HDF5 1.6.4 and I'm not sure whether
>this is in Ubuntu or not, but I strongly suspect that it is not (it
>should be 1.6.2 instead). HDF5 1.6.4 is even having problems to enter
>testing distribution in Debian (they are waiting for a recent lam
>package there).
>
>So, all in all, I don't think that PyTables would be ready for Ubuntu
>Breezy anyway. Some time ago, I've received some patch from an Ubuntu
>developer (Sebastian Dr=C3ge <sl...@ub...>). Maybe someone might
>like to get in touch with him.
>
>Cheers,
>
> =20
>
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From: Cournapeau D. <cou...@at...> - 2005-10-19 05:51:09
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> Oh, really? This was completely unexpected for me. Perhaps this is due > to that I'm the maintainer for Debian, and because Ubuntu is so close > to Debian the package my name remains as the original maintainer. > > Anyway, PyTables 1.1.1 depends on HDF5 1.6.4 and I'm not sure whether > this is in Ubuntu or not, but I strongly suspect that it is not (it > should be 1.6.2 instead). HDF5 1.6.4 is even having problems to enter > testing distribution in Debian (they are waiting for a recent lam > package there). > The HDF5 version in ubuntu breezy is 1.6.4, no problem here. Building an ubuntu package using the standart debian tools (dpkg-builpackage) worked for me, but I had to do some dirty stuff, I cannot remember what exactly (some numarray version problem). I cannot check it, but it looks like right know, using the pytables sources, and doing a fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage in pytable root directory works at least up to pytable-1.2b6 (I have not tested thoroughly the package, but it builds on my powerpc machine and two PC). I can send my deb packages to anyone interested (modulo the usual 'don't complain if this destroys your house' stuff:) ). However, As I noticed this morning, this does not work anymore with the last beta (which I use to investigate support of "raw" .h5 files with pytables). The documentation is using tbook now, which has no debian package, and looks like a nightmare because of its java dependancy, and non standart (and buggy) Makefile (I don't even want to talk about the fact that it is using some tex tools which do not exist in debian tetex...). I wasted 2 hours this morning trying to solve the issue, and I gave up. I simply removes the doc directory from the build dir for now. Francesc, it looks like you are using debian. How do you manage to build a deb package of tbook, or just even make it work ? David |
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From: Nicola L. <ni...@te...> - 2005-10-19 07:12:56
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>> Anyway, PyTables 1.1.1 depends on HDF5 1.6.4 and I'm not sure whether >> this is in Ubuntu or not, but I strongly suspect that it is not (it >> should be 1.6.2 instead). HDF5 1.6.4 is even having problems to enter >> testing distribution in Debian (they are waiting for a recent lam >> package there). > The HDF5 version in ubuntu breezy is 1.6.4, no problem here. > > Building an ubuntu package using the standart debian tools > (dpkg-builpackage) worked for me, but I had to do some dirty stuff, I > cannot remember what exactly (some numarray version problem). > > I cannot check it, but it looks like right know, using the pytables > sources, and doing a fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage in pytable root > directory works at least up to pytable-1.2b6 (I have not tested > thoroughly the package, but it builds on my powerpc machine and two PC). > > I can send my deb packages to anyone interested (modulo the usual 'don't > complain if this destroys your house' stuff:) ). Could you send me your dsc and diff files? I'm going to build an 1.1 package for Breezy right now. > However, As I noticed this morning, this does not work anymore with the > last beta (which I use to investigate support of "raw" .h5 files with > pytables). The documentation is using tbook now, which has no debian > package, and looks like a nightmare because of its java dependancy, and > non standart (and buggy) Makefile (I don't even want to talk about the > fact that it is using some tex tools which do not exist in debian > tetex...). I wasted 2 hours this morning trying to solve the issue, and > I gave up. This is bad news. > I simply removes the doc directory from the build dir for now. > > Francesc, it looks like you are using debian. How do you manage to build > a deb package of tbook, or just even make it work ? -- Nicola Larosa - ni...@te... In the end, guys, you're just as driven by emotions as women. Trust us... testosterone SO does not enhance your powers of reason. -- Kathy Sierra, July 2005 |
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From: Cournapeau D. <cou...@at...> - 2005-10-20 04:54:57
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> . > > Could you send me your dsc and diff files? I'm going to build an 1.1 > package for Breezy right now. It looks like simply doing a "fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage" works. Right now, I am using a beta version. If you don't manage to build the package, drop me the problem, and I will build a package from the latest release. David |
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From: Nicola L. <ni...@te...> - 2005-10-20 09:32:42
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>> Could you send me your dsc and diff files? I'm going to build an 1.1 >> package for Breezy right now. > It looks like simply doing a "fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage" works. Right > now, I am using a beta version. I did just that. It built the four packages: three of them did install, but the "python-tables" did not, because it expected v.2.3 of Python as default, while it's v.2.4 on Breezy. So I changed the control and changelog files, using an 1.1.1-1ubuntu0 version, rebuilt the packages, and all of them installed fine. :-) -- Nicola Larosa - ni...@te... When people with lots of weapons and training in violence feel cornered, it tends to not be a pretty picture. -- Kirby Urner, August 2005 |
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From: Francesc A. <fa...@ca...> - 2005-10-19 08:39:01
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A Dimecres 19 Octubre 2005 07:53, Cournapeau David va escriure: > The HDF5 version in ubuntu breezy is 1.6.4, no problem here. Ok, so Ubuntu can certainly be ahead Debian testing. Interesting. > However, As I noticed this morning, this does not work anymore with the > last beta (which I use to investigate support of "raw" .h5 files with > pytables). The documentation is using tbook now, which has no debian > package, and looks like a nightmare because of its java dependancy, and > non standart (and buggy) Makefile (I don't even want to talk about the > fact that it is using some tex tools which do not exist in debian > tetex...). I wasted 2 hours this morning trying to solve the issue, and > I gave up. > > I simply removes the doc directory from the build dir for now. > > Francesc, it looks like you are using debian. How do you manage to build > a deb package of tbook, or just even make it work ? > PyTables is using tbook from version 0.1, so I think this is not the problem. In fact, you don't need tbook installed at all in order to generated the docs because on every public release of pyatbles the HTML and PDF versions of User's Manual do come with the source tarball. Look at the debian/ directory in pytables distribution in order to see how the doc package is generated. Cheers, =2D-=20 >0,0< Francesc Altet =A0 =A0 http://www.carabos.com/ V V C=E1rabos Coop. V. =A0=A0Enjoy Data "-" |
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From: Valentino A. <val...@co...> - 2005-10-13 08:55:57
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Francesc Altet" <fa...@ca...> To: <pyt...@li...> Cc: "Nicola Larosa" <ni...@te...> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Pytables-users] What about PyTables version in Ubuntu Breezy? >A Dimecres 12 Octubre 2005 17:38, Nicola Larosa va escriure: >> Hi everybody, >> while the PyTables packages in Debian unstable are at v.1.1.1, the ones >> in >> Ubuntu Breezy are still at 0.9.1, how come? >> >> Breezy is due any day now, I don't think anybody would like an old >> PyTables >> version in it, right? :-) > >That would be a good thing, of course. Here in Cárabos we don't have >resources enough to provide support for every distribution. Some >volunteer for asking the Ubuntu maintainer about that? Hi Francesc, I recently switched to Ubuntu but I have no idea of how to build a debian package :( I have still a lot of things to learn about debian-based systems! Anyway if you think I can help you in some way please send me some instruction. Ciao Antonio -- Antonio VALENTINO Consorzio Innova via della Scienza - Zona Paip I 75100 Matera (MT) Italy |
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From: Ivan V. i B. <iv...@ca...> - 2005-10-13 11:23:21
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En/na Valentino Antonio ha escrit:: > Hi Francesc, > I recently switched to Ubuntu but I have no idea of how to build a > debian package :( > I have still a lot of things to learn about debian-based systems! > Anyway if you think I can help you in some way please send me some > instruction. You should install the ``dpkg-dev`` and ``fakeroot`` packages, and once you have the three source files of the PyTables Debian package, just ``dpkg-source -x python-tables_....dsc``, enter the newly created directory and ``dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot``. You may need to install additional development packages. Once you are done, you will get the nice *.deb packages ready to install with ``dpkg -i``. You can get more information in deb...@li.... Good luck! :: Ivan Vilata i Balaguer >qo< http://www.carabos.com/ C=E1rabos Coop. V. V V Enjoy Data "" |
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From: Francesc A. <fa...@ca...> - 2005-10-13 11:48:44
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Antonio, Also, have a look at this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html in case you want to create good packages that would susceptible of being uploaded to distributions. A Dijous 13 Octubre 2005 13:18, Ivan Vilata i Balaguer va escriure: > En/na Valentino Antonio ha escrit:: > > Hi Francesc, > > I recently switched to Ubuntu but I have no idea of how to build a > > debian package :( > > I have still a lot of things to learn about debian-based systems! > > Anyway if you think I can help you in some way please send me some > > instruction. > > You should install the ``dpkg-dev`` and ``fakeroot`` packages, and once > you have the three source files of the PyTables Debian package, just > ``dpkg-source -x python-tables_....dsc``, enter the newly created > directory and ``dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot``. You may need to > install additional development packages. Once you are done, you will > get the nice *.deb packages ready to install with ``dpkg -i``. You can > get more information in deb...@li.... > > Good luck! > > > > Ivan Vilata i Balaguer >qo< http://www.carabos.com/ > C=E1rabos Coop. V. V V Enjoy Data > "" =2D-=20 >0,0< Francesc Altet =A0 =A0 http://www.carabos.com/ V V C=E1rabos Coop. V. =A0=A0Enjoy Data "-" |
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From: Francesc A. <fa...@ca...> - 2005-10-13 12:10:21
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I'm thinking now that Antonio should not bother too much about getting pytables 1.1.1 ready in Ubuntu. I think it would be preferable to wait until pytables 1.1.1 make its way to Debian testing, and then ask the Ubuntu developers to include the new pytables in testing. Anyway, I'm going to see if I can accelerate the process of making pytables 1.1.1 to enter testing. I don't know if we would be in time for Breezy though. Cheers, A Dijous 13 Octubre 2005 13:48, Francesc Altet va escriure: > Antonio, > > Also, have a look at this: > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html > > in case you want to create good packages that would susceptible of > being uploaded to distributions. > > A Dijous 13 Octubre 2005 13:18, Ivan Vilata i Balaguer va escriure: > > En/na Valentino Antonio ha escrit:: > > > Hi Francesc, > > > I recently switched to Ubuntu but I have no idea of how to build a > > > debian package :( > > > I have still a lot of things to learn about debian-based systems! > > > Anyway if you think I can help you in some way please send me some > > > instruction. > > > > You should install the ``dpkg-dev`` and ``fakeroot`` packages, and once > > you have the three source files of the PyTables Debian package, just > > ``dpkg-source -x python-tables_....dsc``, enter the newly created > > directory and ``dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot``. You may need to > > install additional development packages. Once you are done, you will > > get the nice *.deb packages ready to install with ``dpkg -i``. You can > > get more information in deb...@li.... > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > Ivan Vilata i Balaguer >qo< http://www.carabos.com/ > > C=E1rabos Coop. V. V V Enjoy Data > > "" =2D-=20 >0,0< Francesc Altet =A0 =A0 http://www.carabos.com/ V V C=E1rabos Coop. V. =A0=A0Enjoy Data "-" |
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From: Nicola L. <ni...@te...> - 2005-10-13 12:22:42
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> Anyway, I'm going to see if I can accelerate the process of making > pytables 1.1.1 to enter testing. I don't know if we would be in time > for Breezy though. Well, the announcements just came out, so no, we wouldn't. :-) Anyway, pytables is in the "universe" repository, not in the main one, so it isn't included in the release anyway. I don't what the versioning guidelines for "universe" are, maybe there's still a possibility to put it in. Otherwise, we'll have to wait for the next release. -- Nicola Larosa - ni...@te... ...I sometimes think it would be nice to be a Tom Cruise or Mel Gibson but like Rome, it's probably a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there. -- jgoldblog, May 2002 |
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From: Antonio V. <val...@co...> - 2005-10-14 08:51:21
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Alle 13:18, gioved=C3=AC 13 ottobre 2005, Ivan Vilata i Balaguer ha scritto: > You should install the ``dpkg-dev`` and ``fakeroot`` packages, and once > you have the three source files of the PyTables Debian package, just > ``dpkg-source -x python-tables_....dsc``, enter the newly created > directory and ``dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot``. You may need to > install additional development packages. Once you are done, you will > get the nice *.deb packages ready to install with ``dpkg -i``. You can > get more information in deb...@li.... Thank you for the info. =2D-=20 Antonio Valentino Consorzio Innova via della Scienza - Zona Paip I 75100 Matera (MT) Italy |
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