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[Pyqt-mac-list] new eric just as crashy?

[Tim L. <tim...@ya...>]

Has anyone found Eric 3.7 to be more stable than the previous couple  
of versions?  I find it crashes just as reliably every time I bring  
up the save file dialog.

When Kevin was considering handing off the packages he maintains, I  
was thinking of volunteering for pyqt-mac (and still would in the  
future) but I hesitated because I consider Eric the most important  
part of the package, and it's not currently usable.  At this point,  
if it were my package, I would remove Eric altogether and recommend  
mac users steer clear of it for the time being.  Eric is a fabulous  
tool, but I've tried building and installing all the dependencies  
every-which way with no luck.  These days I just use invoke pyuic  
manually on qt-designer files and do all my python code in pyoxide.

tim 

Re: [Pyqt-mac-list] new eric just as crashy?

[Kevin W. <sw...@wo...>]

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I haven't tried Eric a lot, but I'm about to, as I've decided to focus
my application development efforts on PyQt instead of wxPython. (Qt
Designer makes a huge difference here.) Of course I can always use
Aquamacs as my main editor, as I do now.

Have you found PyOxide useful? I've found it buggy and crash-prone as
well, which is inexcusable given that it's written in Obj-C.

Cheers,

Kevin Walzer, PhD
WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X
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http://www.kevin-walzer.com
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Tim Lawrence wrote:
| Has anyone found Eric 3.7 to be more stable than the previous couple  of
| versions?  I find it crashes just as reliably every time I bring  up the
| save file dialog.
|
| When Kevin was considering handing off the packages he maintains, I  was
| thinking of volunteering for pyqt-mac (and still would in the  future)
| but I hesitated because I consider Eric the most important  part of the
| package, and it's not currently usable.  At this point,  if it were my
| package, I would remove Eric altogether and recommend  mac users steer
| clear of it for the time being.  Eric is a fabulous  tool, but I've
| tried building and installing all the dependencies  every-which way with
| no luck.  These days I just use invoke pyuic  manually on qt-designer
| files and do all my python code in pyoxide.
|
| tim
|
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Re: [Pyqt-mac-list] new eric just as crashy?

[Kevin W. <sw...@wo...>]

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I am wondering if the problem with Eric is not the package itself but
the fact that it's built against the Apple system Python (2.3.5)? I
noticed a big improvement in stability in my wxPython packages when I
moved to Python 2.4.1. However, for various reasons, I've not been able
to get a clean build of PyQt against Python 2.4.1. I did note a comment
at this website (http://zaylea.net/2005/05/good-python-ide-maybe.html)
that Eric seems to perform better with 2.4.

When PyQt 4 comes out, I'm going to shift support to 2.4.1. Hopefully
Eric3 will perform better there.

Cheers,

Kevin Walzer, PhD
WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X
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Tim Lawrence wrote:
| Has anyone found Eric 3.7 to be more stable than the previous couple  of
| versions?  I find it crashes just as reliably every time I bring  up the
| save file dialog.
|
| When Kevin was considering handing off the packages he maintains, I  was
| thinking of volunteering for pyqt-mac (and still would in the  future)
| but I hesitated because I consider Eric the most important  part of the
| package, and it's not currently usable.  At this point,  if it were my
| package, I would remove Eric altogether and recommend  mac users steer
| clear of it for the time being.  Eric is a fabulous  tool, but I've
| tried building and installing all the dependencies  every-which way with
| no luck.  These days I just use invoke pyuic  manually on qt-designer
| files and do all my python code in pyoxide.
|
| tim
|
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Re: [Pyqt-mac-list] new eric just as crashy?

[Diez B. R. <de...@we...>]

Am Tuesday, 21. June 2005 05:03 schrieb Kevin Walzer:
> I am wondering if the problem with Eric is not the package itself but
> the fact that it's built against the Apple system Python (2.3.5)? I
> noticed a big improvement in stability in my wxPython packages when I
> moved to Python 2.4.1. However, for various reasons, I've not been able
> to get a clean build of PyQt against Python 2.4.1. I

You didn't? I had no troubles at all - using OSX 10.3.9 and python 2.4.1. I 
had a previous install of a package for python 2.3 on my machine, that 
contained the qt binaries - but that was it.

Now I didn't try and made eric run with it - how to do so?

Diez

Re: [Pyqt-mac-list] new eric just as crashy?

[Kevin W. <sw...@wo...>]

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Well, so much for that theory. I was able to get PyQt-Mac built against
Python 2.4.1, but Eric crashes just as often there. Segfaults when
trying to run a script and also when it's trying to extract a method. I
didn't test further, but it's pretty clear that it's fragile on the Mac.

Well, one can do PyQt development without Eric3 (just as one can do
wxPython development without Spe & wxGlade). Emacs + Terminal + Qt
Designer works for me. But Eric3 has a lot of nice features, especially
searching within files, that I like. I wish I were able to do more to
troubleshoot/diagnose the problem. If anyone has any
suggestions/ideas/patches, I will be happy to test them.

Cheers,

Kevin Walzer, PhD
WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X
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Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
| Am Tuesday, 21. June 2005 05:03 schrieb Kevin Walzer:
|
|>I am wondering if the problem with Eric is not the package itself but
|>the fact that it's built against the Apple system Python (2.3.5)? I
|>noticed a big improvement in stability in my wxPython packages when I
|>moved to Python 2.4.1. However, for various reasons, I've not been able
|>to get a clean build of PyQt against Python 2.4.1. I
|
|
| You didn't? I had no troubles at all - using OSX 10.3.9 and python
2.4.1. I
| had a previous install of a package for python 2.3 on my machine, that
| contained the qt binaries - but that was it.
|
| Now I didn't try and made eric run with it - how to do so?
|
| Diez
|
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Re: [Pyqt-mac-list] new eric just as crashy?

[Kevin W. <sw...@wo...>]

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Diez B. Roggisch wrote:

|
|
| You didn't? I had no troubles at all - using OSX 10.3.9 and python
2.4.1. I
| had a previous install of a package for python 2.3 on my machine, that
| contained the qt binaries - but that was it.
|

So you actually built PyQt against Python 2.4.1? Then I'll give it
another try.

I'm working on Tiger. I wonder if there was a conflict between Qt, which
I built on 10.3, and trying to build a new extension on the later OS.

Running Eric3 is easy. To launch it against Python 2.4.1, just cd to the
Eric3 directory and run this command:

pythonw2.4 eric3.py

If you actually want to install it, cd to the directory and run the
install command using "python2.4" instead of "python" (which is probably
the system Python).

If you get Eric3 running this way, let me know if it's more stable.
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