Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Testsuite adventures

[Dinu G. <gh...@da...>]

Ronald Oussoren:

> There are no extensions because these are programs. I really hate it 
> when people ship executables with an extension ;-). My first thought 
> when seeing an executable with an extension (be it, '.sh', '.py' or 
> even '.exe' [on Unix!]) is that this is probably some tool used by the 
> "real" program and not something I should run.

Well, people have different thoughts and opinions, but files have ex-
tensions so a person or program can easily tell what kind of thing it
is without examining its contents. It makes writing programs easier
which operate on files/programs - as all sorts of test scripts might
be doing. Having no .py extension makes it impossible for them to im-
port such files/programs. After all, OS X programs have a .app, too.

My philosophy of turning Python scripts into more Unix-like "programs"
is to write tiny wrappers which you can put into you favourite bin/
directory, like this very short one, pp, for using ReportLab's Python-
Point program, which is contained in site-packages/reportlab:

   #! /usr/bin/env python
   import os, sys
   from reportlab.tools.pythonpoint import pythonpoint as pp
   path = sys.argv[1]
   pp.process(path, handout=0, cols=2, outDir=os.getcwd())

> You are right w.r.t. end-users running the testsuite. At the very 
> least we should add a new subcommand to setup.py (is that even 
> possible with distutils?) and/or document how to do that with the 
> source release. We should probably also distribute the runalltests 
> script, or simular functionality, with the binary distribution.

You could also test the distribution installed from a .dmg archive.

>> Then, looking at Just's code I wondered where the bundebuilder module
>> comes from, and I'm surprised to see it in pyobjc/MPCompat but it's
>> installed in site-packages! This is what sort of constantly confuses
>> me...
>
> bundlebuilder is part of MacPython. We ship it because we use only 
> this part of MacPython OSX.

Anyway, I'm not so happy seeing too much dumped into site-packages,
be it by MacPython or PyObjC.

Regards,

Dinu

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