Re: [Pyobjc-dev] buildapplication strawman

[tmk <li...@ne...>]

On Wednesday, Nov 20, 2002, at 00:27 Europe/Brussels, Just van Rossum 
wrote:

> bb...@ma... wrote:
>
>> I don't understand the benefits of the framework build.   It requires
>> additional maintenance within the Python source trees and doesn't seem
>> to add any capabilities that couldn't be done with a 'regular' build 
>> of
>> Python?   I would think there is a tremendous amount of value in
>> eliminating the number of differences between the build of Python on
>> one platform vs. others.  Certainly, the Mac platform warrants the 
>> slew
>> of Mac specific modules that are in their, but modules build 
>> relatively
>> cleanly without requiring changes to and ongoing maintenance of
>> configure.in....
>
> Hear, hear and hear.
>
> I'd suggest to install all Mac stuff in 
> <prefix>/lib/python<version>/plat-darwin
> (or /plat-mac if the install procedure allows that).

Same here. I was originally a supporter of the framework install. But 
after bbum's excellent arguments in favor of a standard  I can't see 
any advantages in having the official (Apple or not) python install 
being a framework install.

Plus, it seems that even Apple is moving away from framework install 
for OSS type software (Perl, tcl used to be packaged (at least 
partially) as frameworks in Rhapsody and later on).

And last, the many scars I got from trying to build (MachoPython) 
python from source on Mac OS X "non-standard" unix (starting way back 
on Rhapsody and Mac OS X Developper and Preview Releases have made me a 
strong supporter of standards when available ;-). That and the time it 
took to have Python build from source on Mac OS X without one having to 
hack on it.

That said, I trust the fact that Jack may have very good reasons to 
favor the framework install option instead. When you can spare the time 
Jack inquiring minds want to know :-)

Just my .02 euros

= tmk =


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