Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Moving from XCode to py2app: xib trouble

[Orestis M. <or...@or...>]

I quite like the autocomplete that XCode does for python - I hate that  
it won't auto indent. Oh well. Such is life, I guess. I've tried  
closing XCode and IB subtly complained by adding exclamation marks on  
the outlets of my class, so it's going both ways. Would be interesting  
to investigate what's going on...
--
Orestis Markou
or...@or...
http://orestis.gr/




On 21 Μαϊ 2008, at 9:16 ΜΜ, Ronald Oussoren wrote:

>
> On 21 May, 2008, at 22:04, Orestis Markou wrote:
>
>> I can look into patching py2app to call ibtool - any pointers about  
>> where should I start? Where is py2app svn hosted?
>
> http://svn.pythonmac.org/py2app
>
>>
>>
>> Regarding the XCode/IB integration - if you define python source  
>> files to be opened in an external editor, and you keep xcode in the  
>> background, it will watch your file and post changes to IB as you  
>> save. Although I think you want to take XCode out of the picture  
>> entirely, right?
>
> That's right.  To be blunt, Xcode is a waste of resources when you  
> are writing Python code.  It also makes me depressed because Xcode  
> contains some tools that might be useful for Python too (such as the  
> graphical debugger), but there is no way to plug in support for  
> alternative languages.
>
> Ronald
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Orestis Markou
>> or...@or...
>> http://orestis.gr/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 21 Μαϊ 2008, at 10:36 ΠΜ, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 21, 2008, at 09:48AM, "Orestis Markou" <or...@or... 
>>> > wrote:
>>>> I guess so, but I can't sent my project to anyone that doesn't have
>>>> Dev Tools installed.
>>>>
>>>> I don't really care - using IB is so nice that I doubt that anyone
>>>> would do Cocoa GUI development without it.
>>>
>>> Furthermore de developer tools are a free download (and included  
>>> on the OSX DVD).
>>>
>>> py2app already calls developer tools when you're using CoreData   
>>> model definitions, and IMHO is should call ibtool to do the xib- 
>>> >nib conversion of you.
>>>
>>> BTW. If anyone has too much free time: it would be very useful to  
>>> reverse engineer how Xcode communicates with Interface Builder,  
>>> I'd love to use the automatic detection of classes/outlets when  
>>> I'm using some other editor as Xcode isn't that useful for doing  
>>> python development. I currently use a dummy Xcode project just for  
>>> the Xcode/IB integration, and that's lame.
>>>
>>> Ronald
>>>> --
>>>> Orestis Markou
>>>> or...@or...
>>>> http://orestis.gr/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 21 ??? 2008, at 1:06 ??, Greg Ewing wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Orestis Markou wrote:
>>>>>> Isn't it perhaps better to have py2app invoke ibtool (as  
>>>>>> proposed by
>>>>>> Nicholas Riley), or do we not want to introduce a dependency to  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Developer Tools ?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a .xib file, doesn't that more or less imply
>>>>> that you have the developer tools to create it in the
>>>>> first place?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Greg
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