Re: [Pyobjc-dev] PyObjC on the iPhone

[Jay F. \(saurik\) <sa...@sa...>]

So, while I am quite focused on Telesphoreo (a project which Apple would
never allow onto their phones: it's a complete distribution of Unixy
utilities for the device), I _am_ intending on providing a stand-alone
environment for the various development platforms I'm providing (Java,
Python, etc.) that will work on the SDK and could be included, entirely self
contained, in your .app folder. My main interests are on promoting
development on the iPhone, which thereby now requires a slightly forked
approach.

So, yes, this will work with the SDK, and stay tuned ;P.

(I have now been given the iphone-dev toolchain project, which I've been
spending the last couple days working on: I now have a linker compatible
with the cpu subtypes in Apple's new SDK linker, and am working on a new
version of my JocStrap Java/Objective-C tool that can generate headers from
Objective-C 2.0 binaries. I also got gcc 4.2 working:
http://www.saurik.com/id/4. I believe a lot of cool stuff is going to be
possibly soon.)

--- legal issues, as someone brought them up. not very important to anyone
who doesn't care. ---

Oh, and on the front of Apple and NDAs: I have signed no NDAs with Apple and
I only have access to the free SDK. On top of that, I don't even own a Mac,
so I've just been ssh'ing into a friend's box and running just the new gcc
without Xcode (and gcc by definition can't have anything in it that would
still be applicable under any reasonable NDA, as all its secrets should
already be provided by Apple as its under GPL). I am pretty sure that I can
talk about this as long as I want and there won't be any problems. ;P

(On which point: Apple should be providing the source code to their
compiler. More to the point, Apple may not even remember that their copy of
"as" in cctools is gas, which is licensed under GPL2 as well, so while I
might actually have the source for Apple's compiler from the latest trunk at
llvm-gcc, I know for a fact that I am missing their cctools, which is
normally distributed from the Darwin Source Code site. So if anyone from
Apple _is_ on this list, I hereby request the source code I have the right
to see and build for myself, and am vaguely angry that I haven't found it in
some obvious place yet.)

Sincerely,
Jay Freeman (saurik)
sa...@sa...
http://www.saurik.com/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Stephens" <rd...@ma...>
To: "Jay Freeman (saurik)" <sa...@sa...>
Cc: <pyo...@li...>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Pyobjc-dev] PyObjC on the iPhone


> Hello,
>
> I'm new to the list, and I am interested in this, thnaks!
>
> Also, I wonder, is pyobjc going to be usable with the new iphone SDK?
>
> Ron