Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Help getting Started with PyObjc2 and Leopard

[Barry W. <bar...@gm...>]

Right, so if I want to, for example, install the latest numpy, I have
to use MacPython. That's how I understood things, but several
statements to the effect of "the python that ships with 10.5 is all
you need" seemed to contradict that.

On a related note, I've placed the 10.5.sdk build of MacPython that I made at
http://rieke-server.physiol.washington.edu/~barry/python/python-2.5.1-macosx2007-11-26.dmg

It can correctly build pyobjc2 (tests pass) on Leopard. For those of
you in a similar position (wanting pyobjc2 but needing newer numpy
etc.) give it a try. If this is a useful community resource, I'll work
to put it in a more permanent location and/or do more regular builds
(let me know if you find it useful). I haven't tested it except on our
machines at work, which all have a similar configuration, so YMMV.

barry

On 11/29/07, Bill Bumgarner <bb...@ma...> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 2007, at 8:35 AM, Barry Wark wrote:
> > So is it the official stand now that users should install new/updated
> > packages in the system python? My understanding (well, from Tiger
> > days) was that the system's python should not be modified since system
> > services depend on it. This seems to be the unstated rule with
> > Leopard, since the system python puts its own setuptools, numpy etc.
> > packages in sys.path before /Library/Python/2.5/site-packages. So, if
> > we don't install a framework build of Python, it looks like we either
> > have to interfere with system dependencies (such as numpy, setuptools,
> > pyobjc2?, etc.) or be stuck with the version that shipped in Leopard
> > (numpy 1.0.4 is now available, for example).
> >
> > Unfortunately, pyobjc2 won't work with the pyhton.org framework build
> > because the framework build was built using the 10.4u.sdk (see a
> > previous post by me on this subject). However, it's not hard to build
> > a framework build from the python.org source (there's a script that
> > does just that in the source tree). Once python is built with the
> > 10.5.sdk, pyobjc2 compiles and works just fine (we've been using it in
> > production for a few days already). I'm not sure how to compile in
> > dtrace support, but if you can live without that, everything else
> > appears to work. Does anyone know how to add dtrace support to Python
> > or does it require Apple's patches to the interpreter?
> >
> > Perhaps someone from Apple would be willing to comment...
>
> If you want to install a custom built version of Python.framework,
> then you will also need to build and install PyObjC.
>
> In general, do not overwrite system files.  Not ever.   Keep your
> custom stuff separated from system stuff.
>
> b.bum
>
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