From: andrea c. <an...@ch...> - 2006-11-28 10:25:09
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Hi all, I'm new to this list and I'm a newbie of Pymol. I'm trying to do some morphing movies between different complexes (same protein but different ligands). I'm having troubles cause the morphed structures (pdbs generated by lsqman (procedure taken by this page http://ginsberg.med.virginia.edu/~dcoop/Help/morph.html )) partially lost the informations about the ligands (only the core of the similar portion of each ligand is mantained, but the substituent are lost). Do you know if there is a way to solve/overcome this problem? Another related question is if was possible to set a ray resolution (let's say ray 2400, 2400) for the creation of all the frames of the movie (multiple png). I've been able to do that for one frame at time, manually...is there the possibility to set a different resolution recursively for all the image creation processes? Many thanks in advance and sorry for the long message Andrea |
From: <Mat...@im...> - 2006-11-28 16:22:21
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pym...@li... wrote on 11/28/2006 05:25:15 AM: > Hi all, > I'm new to this list and I'm a newbie of Pymol. > I'm trying to do some morphing movies between different complexes (same > protein but different ligands). I'm having troubles cause the morphed > structures (pdbs generated by lsqman (procedure taken by this page > http://ginsberg.med.virginia.edu/~dcoop/Help/morph.html )) partially > lost the informations about the ligands (only the core of the similar > portion of each ligand is mantained, but the substituent are lost). Do > you know if there is a way to solve/overcome this problem? > Another related question is if was possible to set a ray resolution > (let's say ray 2400, 2400) for the creation of all the frames of the > movie (multiple png). I've been able to do that for one frame at time, > manually...is there the possibility to set a different resolution > recursively for all the image creation processes? > Many thanks in advance and sorry for the long message > Andrea > > Dear Andrea - You should try using the Gerstein Morph Server: http://www.molmovdb.org/molmovdb/morph/ The core algorithm uses CNS, so if your structure is parsed properly by CNS, it should emerge from the server looking OK. You'll get a small movie back from the server, and you can also ask it to send you the PDB files used for each frame, so you can make your own movies in Pymol. For making movies in complicated situations like this, I've usually used script files to explicitly define each frame of the movie: load file1.pdb (rendering commands) ray 2400,2400 png frame1.png delete file1 load file2.pdb etc... You get a long script file, but you can use a text editor to copy & paste the text blocks. Hope that helps, Matt -- Matthew Franklin , Ph.D. Senior Scientist, ImClone Systems 180 Varick Street, 6th floor New York, NY 10014 phone:(917)606-4116 fax:(212)645-2054 Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, and any attachment to it, contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity named on the e-mail. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that reading it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you. |
From: andrea c. <an...@ch...> - 2006-11-28 16:46:43
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Il giorno mar, 28/11/2006 alle 11.22 -0500, Mat...@im... ha scritto: > > Dear Andrea - > > You should try using the Gerstein Morph Server: > http://www.molmovdb.org/molmovdb/morph/ > > The core algorithm uses CNS, so if your structure is parsed properly by > CNS, it should emerge from the server looking OK. You'll get a small movie > back from the server, and you can also ask it to send you the PDB files > used for each frame, so you can make your own movies in Pymol. > Thanks a lot for your reply, unfortunately I've already tried that server and I've seen that also in that case, the ligand is stripped out.I obtain movies with only the protein movements. I don't know if i have problems with my pdbs: I have 245 residues + 1 ligand (246). it has the ATOM and not the HETATM indication, could be this a problem? > For making movies in complicated situations like this, I've usually used > script files to explicitly define each frame of the movie: > > load file1.pdb > (rendering commands) > ray 2400,2400 > png frame1.png > delete file1 > load file2.pdb > etc... > > You get a long script file, but you can use a text editor to copy & paste > the text blocks. I think that the resolution or quality could be a useful setting to add in the program to overcome this "manual" procedure. > > Hope that helps, > Thanks, it helped me Andrea |
From: Nat E. <ec...@uc...> - 2006-11-28 22:05:00
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> unfortunately I've already tried that server and I've seen that also in > that case, the ligand is stripped out.I obtain movies with only the > protein movements. I don't know if i have problems with my pdbs: > I have 245 residues + 1 ligand (246). it has the ATOM and not the HETATM > indication, could be this a problem? The server itself doesn't deal with heteroatoms, mostly because it makes dealing with the PDB even more of a nightmare than usual. The underlying CNS input file will handle any ligand you want as long as you have the correct topology and parameter files (e.g. from Gerard Kleywegt's HIC-UP server). I don't know of any program that will morph between *different* ligands, though. You can cheat by using a dummy ligand that has the conserved core, and adding in the rest manually once you have the interpolation. For instance, to show ATP hydrolysis, you use ADP in both PDB files, and later re-insert the original ATP in place of the ADP in the first frame(s). PyMOL makes this very easy. -Nat |