From: Max F. <MFe...@sc...> - 2012-12-10 16:36:57
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Hey everyone, Does anyone have experience setting up pymol to be viewed in 3D with glasses? I'm hoping to build a system for this purpose. >From what I have read, I will need a recent NVidia Quadro card and a 3D-capable LCD monitor with a resolution of at least 120Hz. I'm not sure if I need to be more specific than that (if there are particular cards/monitors that are known to work/not work). I'm also not quite sure if this is possible on Windows 7. I've seen reports of people doing this with Windows XP and Vista, but I would prefer to avoid those operating systems. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. -Max F |
From: Schubert, C. [JRDUS] <CSC...@it...> - 2012-12-10 18:52:09
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Hi Max, you are already pretty much spot on. Pymol stereo works under XP, Vista, W7 and as far as I know any Linux flavor, as long as you purchase a compatible NVIDIA quadro card and Nvidia 3D kit. The only caveat is that under Linux you need to have a card which supports the external 3 pin stereo connector, you don't need that under any of the windows flavors. Check the Nivida website for compatible cards, machines and monitors. I'm sure you can also find some structural biology groups at Scripps who are already setup with this equipment. HTH Carsten From: Max Ferretti [mailto:MFe...@sc...] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 11:22 AM To: pym...@li... Subject: [PyMOL] Viewing PyMol in 3D Hey everyone, Does anyone have experience setting up pymol to be viewed in 3D with glasses? I'm hoping to build a system for this purpose. >From what I have read, I will need a recent NVidia Quadro card and a 3D-capable LCD monitor with a resolution of at least 120Hz. I'm not sure if I need to be more specific than that (if there are particular cards/monitors that are known to work/not work). I'm also not quite sure if this is possible on Windows 7. I've seen reports of people doing this with Windows XP and Vista, but I would prefer to avoid those operating systems. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. -Max F |
From: Sabuj P. <sa...@gm...> - 2012-12-10 21:18:01
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You don't need a quadro with a 3 pin port to do stereo in linux anymore, but you do need a "new" model quadro, e.g. a quadro 600. The tradeoff is that you'll pay more for the 120hz monitors with the built-in 3d vision v2 emitters, see here : http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2012-November/008177.html I haven't' tested a standalone 3d vision v2 emitter with linux, it may behave the same way as the lcd's with the built-in v2 emitter. > NVIDIA quadro card and Nvidia 3D kit. The only caveat is that under Linux > you need to have a card which supports the external 3 pin stereo connector, > you don’t need that under any of the windows flavors. Check the Nivida |
From: Schubert, C. [JRDUS] <CSC...@it...> - 2012-12-10 22:42:47
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Thanks Sabuj, useful info indeed. -----Original Message----- From: Sabuj Pattanayek [mailto:sa...@gm...] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:18 PM To: Schubert, Carsten [JRDUS] Cc: Max Ferretti; pym...@li... Subject: Re: [PyMOL] Viewing PyMol in 3D You don't need a quadro with a 3 pin port to do stereo in linux anymore, but you do need a "new" model quadro, e.g. a quadro 600. The tradeoff is that you'll pay more for the 120hz monitors with the built-in 3d vision v2 emitters, see here : http://plato.cgl.ucsf.edu/pipermail/chimera-users/2012-November/008177.html I haven't' tested a standalone 3d vision v2 emitter with linux, it may behave the same way as the lcd's with the built-in v2 emitter. > NVIDIA quadro card and Nvidia 3D kit. The only caveat is that under Linux > you need to have a card which supports the external 3 pin stereo connector, > you don't need that under any of the windows flavors. Check the Nivida |
From: EPF (E. P. Friis) <EP...@no...> - 2012-12-11 10:17:05
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Hi PyMOLers We recently bought Asus V278H monitors, which displays nice stereo under Linux (Ubuntu 12.04). The monitors were bundled with Nvidia 3D vision v2 glasses. We have Quadro FX5800 cards, but we do NOT use the 3-pin stereo port, but rather the built-in emitter in the monitors. I have pasted my notes from the installation below. Is works with PyMOL as well as other OpenGL applications, such as VMD, Accelrys Discovery studio, CCDC GOLD/Hermes, Yasara, etc. Cheers, Esben Asus VG278H flat panel 3D screens and Ubuntu 12.04 These screens have built-in emitters that actually work under Linux, with Nvidia drivers version 310 or newer. (These drivers are packaged in Ubuntu 12.04, so they're easy to install) Install by closing X and install: sudo service lightdm stop use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to swith to a text console and login (possibly, but not strictly necessary) as root wajig install nvidia-experimental-310 /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf This file is very important for geting the right video mode for the login screen (via the script in /etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh, otherwise the X-server doesn't start at all). It also makes sure that the username has to be typed instead of selected from a list (very important when the system has many users) [SeatDefaults] user-session=ubuntu greeter-session=unity-greeter greeter-show-manual-login=true greeter-hide-users=true display-setup-script=/etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh session-setup-script=/etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh /etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh This script calls the xrandr tool to set the videomode #!/bin/bash xrandr --output DVI-I-3 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 120 Note!! It seems that when everything is installed, there are still some tweaks to do (not completely sure though) * Reboot * For stereo to work the first time, I had to stop lightdm (see above), switch to a text console and login as normal user, then do startx to start the X-window system. Now check if stereo works. If so, then switch back to the text console and kill the X-server (Ctrl-C). The restart lightdm and login from the graphical login screen. Then it should work. /etc/X11/xorg.conf I dont know how important the xorg.conf file actually is, but here's my copy # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 310.14 (bui...@sw...) Tue Oct 9 13:04:01 PDT 2012 Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen "Screen0" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" EndSection Section "Files" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" HorizSync 28.0 - 400.0 VertRefresh 43.0 - 120.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Device0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Option "NoPowerConnectorCheck" "True" Option "UseEdid" "True" Option "ModeDebug" "True" Option "Stereo" "10" Option "3DVisionDisplayType" "1" SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection Best Regards Esben Peter Friis Science Manager Novozymes A/S Krogshoejvej 36 2880 Bagsvaerd Denmark Phone: +45 44461334 Mobile: +45 30771334 E-mail: ep...@no... ----------------------------------- Don't print today - contribute to a better environment tomorrow ----------------------------------- Novozymes A/S (reg. no.:10007127). Registered address: Krogshoejvej 36 DK-2880 Bagsvaerd, Denmark This e-mail (including any attachments) is for the intended addressee(s) only and may contain confidential and/or proprietary information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorized reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information herein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient you should delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. From: Max Ferretti [mailto:MFe...@sc...] Sent: 10. december 2012 17:22 To: pym...@li... Subject: [PyMOL] Viewing PyMol in 3D Hey everyone, Does anyone have experience setting up pymol to be viewed in 3D with glasses? I'm hoping to build a system for this purpose. >From what I have read, I will need a recent NVidia Quadro card and a 3D-capable LCD monitor with a resolution of at least 120Hz. I'm not sure if I need to be more specific than that (if there are particular cards/monitors that are known to work/not work). I'm also not quite sure if this is possible on Windows 7. I've seen reports of people doing this with Windows XP and Vista, but I would prefer to avoid those operating systems. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. -Max F |
From: Jeff J. เ. จ. <jj...@kk...> - 2012-12-14 04:39:14
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From http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8918945/how-to-do-stereoscopic-3d-with-opengl-on-gtx-560-and-later "The NVision3D API does allow you to blit images for specific eyes (this is meant for movie players and image viewers). But it also allows you to emulate quadbuffer stereo: Instead of GL_BACK_LEFT and GL_BACK_RIGHT buffers create two Framebuffer Objects, which you bind and use as if they were quadbuffer stereo. Then after rendering you blit the resulting images (as textures) to the NVision3D API." "With only as little as 50 lines of management code you can build a program that seamlessly works on both NVision3D as well as quadbuffer stereo. What NVidia does is pointless and they should just stop it now and properly support quadbuffer stereo pixelformats on consumer GPUs as well." Is this true and could code be added to PyMol to allow GTX cards to provide 3D for PyMol? Windows and Linux? > On December 11, 2012 5:20:18 PM ICT, "EPF (Esben Peter Friis)" <EP...@no...> wrote: > > > Hi PyMOLers > > We recently bought Asus V278H monitors, which displays nice stereo under Linux (Ubuntu 12.04). The monitors were bundled with Nvidia 3D vision v2 glasses. We have Quadro FX5800 cards, but we do NOT use the 3-pin stereo port, but rather the built-in emitter in the monitors. I have pasted my notes from the installation below. Is works with PyMOL as well as other OpenGL applications, such as VMD, Accelrys Discovery studio, CCDC GOLD/Hermes, Yasara, etc. > Cheers, > > Esben > > Asus VG278H flat panel 3D screens and Ubuntu 12.04 > These screens have built-in emitters that actually work under Linux, with Nvidia drivers version 310 or newer. (These drivers are packaged in Ubuntu 12.04, so they're easy to install) > Install by closing X and install: > sudo service lightdm stop > use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to swith to a text console and login (possibly, but not strictly necessary) as root > wajig install nvidia-experimental-310 > > /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf > This file is very important for geting the right video mode for the login screen (via the script in /etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh, otherwise the X-server doesn't start at all). It also makes sure that the username has to be typed instead of selected from a list (very important when the system has many users) > [SeatDefaults] > user-session=ubuntu > greeter-session=unity-greeter > greeter-show-manual-login=true > greeter-hide-users=true > display-setup-script=/etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh > session-setup-script=/etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh > > /etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh > This script calls the xrandr tool to set the videomode > #!/bin/bash > xrandr --output DVI-I-3 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 120 > Note!! > It seems that when everything is installed, there are still some tweaks to do (not completely sure though) > > * Reboot > * For stereo to work the first time, I had to stop lightdm (see above), switch to a text console and login as normal user, then do startx to start the X-window system. Now check if stereo works. If so, then switch back to the text console and kill the X-server (Ctrl-C). The restart lightdm and login from the graphical login screen. Then it should work. > /etc/X11/xorg.conf > I dont know how important the xorg.conf file actually is, but here's my copy > # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig > # nvidia-xconfig: version 310.14 (bui...@sw...) Tue Oct 9 13:04:01 PDT 2012 > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "Layout0" > Screen "Screen0" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > # generated from default > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" > Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > # generated from default > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Unknown" > ModelName "Unknown" > HorizSync 28.0 - 400.0 > VertRefresh 43.0 - 120.0 > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Device0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Device0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > Option "NoPowerConnectorCheck" "True" > Option "UseEdid" "True" > Option "ModeDebug" "True" > Option "Stereo" "10" > Option "3DVisionDisplayType" "1" > SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "Extensions" > Option "Composite" "Disable" > EndSection > > > > Best Regards > Esben Peter Friis > Science Manager > > Novozymes A/S > Krogshoejvej 36 > 2880 Bagsvaerd Denmark > Phone: +45 44461334 > Mobile: +45 30771334 > E-mail: ep...@no... > ----------------------------------- > Don't print today - contribute to a better environment tomorrow > ----------------------------------- > Novozymes A/S (reg. no.:10007127). Registered address: Krogshoejvej 36 DK-2880 Bagsvaerd, Denmark > This e-mail (including any attachments) is for the intended addressee(s) only and may contain confidential and/or proprietary information protected by law. You are hereby notified that any unauthorized reading, disclosure, copying or distribution of this e-mail or use of information herein is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient you should delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. > From: Max Ferretti [mailto:MFe...@sc...] > Sent: 10. december 2012 17:22 > To: pym...@li... > Subject: [PyMOL] Viewing PyMol in 3D > > Hey everyone, > > Does anyone have experience setting up pymol to be viewed in 3D with glasses? I'm hoping to build a system for this purpose. > > >From what I have read, I will need a recent NVidia Quadro card and a 3D-capable LCD monitor with a resolution of at least 120Hz. I'm not sure if I need to be more specific than that (if there are particular cards/monitors that are known to work/not work). I'm also not quite sure if this is possible on Windows 7. I've seen reports of people doing this with Windows XP and Vista, but I would prefer to avoid those operating systems. > > Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. > > -Max F Dr Jeff Johns Melatonin Research Group Faculty of Pharmaceutical Sciences Khon Kaen University Khon Kaen 40002 Thailand Phone: +66 (0)43 202 378 Email: jj...@kk... Alternative email: jef...@ho... |
From: Sabuj P. <sa...@gm...> - 2012-12-14 04:49:48
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Even if this were true, the driver in linux won't allow 3d vision (i.e. won't communicate with the emitter) unless it detects a quadro, i.e. you'd need a driver hack. On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Jeff Johns เจฟ จอห์น <jj...@kk...> wrote: > From > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8918945/how-to-do-stereoscopic-3d-with-opengl-on-gtx-560-and-later > > "The NVision3D API does allow you to blit images for specific eyes (this > is meant for movie players and image viewers). But it also allows you to > emulate quadbuffer stereo: Instead of GL_BACK_LEFT and GL_BACK_RIGHT > buffers create two Framebuffer Objects, which you bind and use as if > they were quadbuffer stereo. Then after rendering you blit the resulting > images (as textures) to the NVision3D API." > > "With only as little as 50 lines of management code you can build a > program that seamlessly works on both NVision3D as well as quadbuffer > stereo. What NVidia does is pointless and they should just stop it now > and properly support quadbuffer stereo pixelformats on consumer GPUs as > well." > > Is this true and could code be added to PyMol to allow GTX cards to > provide 3D for PyMol? Windows and Linux? > > >> On December 11, 2012 5:20:18 PM ICT, "EPF (Esben Peter Friis)" > <EP...@no...> wrote: >> >> >> Hi PyMOLers >> >> We recently bought Asus V278H monitors, which displays nice stereo > under Linux (Ubuntu 12.04). The monitors were bundled with Nvidia 3D > vision v2 glasses. We have Quadro FX5800 cards, but we do NOT use the > 3-pin stereo port, but rather the built-in emitter in the monitors. I > have pasted my notes from the installation below. Is works with PyMOL as > well as other OpenGL applications, such as VMD, Accelrys Discovery > studio, CCDC GOLD/Hermes, Yasara, etc. >> Cheers, >> >> Esben >> >> Asus VG278H flat panel 3D screens and Ubuntu 12.04 >> These screens have built-in emitters that actually work under Linux, > with Nvidia drivers version 310 or newer. (These drivers are packaged in > Ubuntu 12.04, so they're easy to install) >> Install by closing X and install: >> sudo service lightdm stop >> use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to swith to a text console and login (possibly, but > not strictly necessary) as root >> wajig install nvidia-experimental-310 >> >> /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf >> This file is very important for geting the right video mode for the > login screen (via the script in /etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh, otherwise the > X-server doesn't start at all). It also makes sure that the username has > to be typed instead of selected from a list (very important when the > system has many users) >> [SeatDefaults] >> user-session=ubuntu >> greeter-session=unity-greeter >> greeter-show-manual-login=true >> greeter-hide-users=true >> display-setup-script=/etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh >> session-setup-script=/etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh >> >> /etc/X11/set_1920x1080.sh >> This script calls the xrandr tool to set the videomode >> #!/bin/bash >> xrandr --output DVI-I-3 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 120 >> Note!! >> It seems that when everything is installed, there are still some > tweaks to do (not completely sure though) >> >> * Reboot >> * For stereo to work the first time, I had to stop lightdm (see > above), switch to a text console and login as normal user, then do > startx to start the X-window system. Now check if stereo works. If so, > then switch back to the text console and kill the X-server (Ctrl-C). The > restart lightdm and login from the graphical login screen. Then it > should work. >> /etc/X11/xorg.conf >> I dont know how important the xorg.conf file actually is, but here's > my copy >> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig >> # nvidia-xconfig: version 310.14 > (bui...@sw...) Tue Oct 9 > 13:04:01 PDT 2012 >> >> Section "ServerLayout" >> Identifier "Layout0" >> Screen "Screen0" >> InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" >> InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Files" >> EndSection >> >> Section "InputDevice" >> # generated from default >> Identifier "Mouse0" >> Driver "mouse" >> Option "Protocol" "auto" >> Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" >> Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" >> Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" >> EndSection >> >> Section "InputDevice" >> # generated from default >> Identifier "Keyboard0" >> Driver "kbd" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Monitor" >> Identifier "Monitor0" >> VendorName "Unknown" >> ModelName "Unknown" >> HorizSync 28.0 - 400.0 >> VertRefresh 43.0 - 120.0 >> Option "DPMS" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Device" >> Identifier "Device0" >> Driver "nvidia" >> VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" >> EndSection >> >> Section "Screen" >> Identifier "Screen0" >> Device "Device0" >> Monitor "Monitor0" >> DefaultDepth 24 >> Option "NoPowerConnectorCheck" "True" >> Option "UseEdid" "True" >> Option "ModeDebug" "True" >> Option "Stereo" "10" >> Option "3DVisionDisplayType" "1" >> SubSection "Display" >> Depth 24 >> EndSubSection >> EndSection >> >> Section "Extensions" >> Option "Composite" "Disable" >> EndSection >> >> >> >> Best Regards >> Esben Peter Friis >> Science Manager >> >> Novozymes A/S >> Krogshoejvej 36 >> 2880 Bagsvaerd Denmark >> Phone: +45 44461334 >> Mobile: +45 30771334 >> E-mail: ep...@no... >> ----------------------------------- >> Don't print today - contribute to a better environment tomorrow >> ----------------------------------- >> Novozymes A/S (reg. no.:10007127). 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From: Sabuj P. <sa...@gm...> - 2012-12-14 16:05:40
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> It takes a bit of understanding. Am I correct that if the monitor does > not have a built in emitter, the glasses need to be triggered from > either a remote transmitter plugged into the 3 pin mini din port of a > suitable quadro card for quad buffered, or to a USB port in the case of > consumer GTX (not quad buffered and not supported by molecular modeling > software, for software enabled games etc.). In Windows I don't know if the GTX cards allow qbs in a window. I haven't tested such a configuration at all. But with a quadro and external emitter in Windows you only need the USB connection to the emitter. In linux you need both the 3 pin and usb connections for external emitters. > If the monitor does have a built in emitter, the glasses are triggered > from the monitor directly with no link to the video board except the > video signal, so any quad-buffered board will work. Are the glasses > triggered effectively directly by the sync-signals within the monitor? > If so why won't Linux work? Let's be specific. The glasses are triggered from a sync signal that comes out of the emitter housed at the top of the monitor. The signal is sent over the dual link DVI-D cable from the quadro, there's no usb or 3 pin mini din cable involved anywhere. The catch is the linux & windows nvidia drivers have built in code specifically to detect monitors that have the built-in 3d vision v2 emitters such as the Asus VG278H. Again, this works fine in Linux and Windows with recent quadro's, but I don't know if GTX cards can do the qbs in a window in Windows (definitely not in Linux). > Asus VG236HE, Acer GD235Hzbid, or BenQ XL2420T are difficult to find > here and very expensive compared to normal list price. I don't know what price range you're looking for but the ones with the built-in emitters like the VG278H are more expensive. It's currently ~$500 USD, so your total with a quadro 600 would be ~$650, or you could get a refurbished quadro 3700 or quadro 370 for much less than the $130 I'm seeing for the 600. There's a list of 3d vision capable monitors below. > I assume the Acer GR235HAbmii won't work with PyMol, Chimera, VMD etc as > it is a passive system. Am I correct? I don't think that's passive since it says it supports one of the 3d methods that bluray devices use (HDMI 1.4) use, but it's not 3d vision or qbs, see Q12 here : http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/feature/3DTV/3D_FAQ i.e. frame packing != frame sequential != qbs > Can you advise whether the smaller 23" S23A750D might work with a > suitable Quadro e.g. 300, 410, 600. This model includes 3D glasses but I > can't work out whether it has a compatible 3d vision v2 built-in emitter > or not. Looking more at these samsung monitors, I don't think any of these are 3d vision, incl the one I posted on the chimera mailing list. I found this list here of the 3d vision v2 compatible monitors with the lightboost tech : http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1680564 and this is a list from nvidia which includes monitors with built-in emitters and without : http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html I also think I found the code that your previous stackoverflow link was referencing : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6827737/how-do-i-output-3d-images-to-my-3d-tv/6828590#6828590 ..and they're basically saying the same thing regarding quadro's and quad buffers, except this bit is interesting : "With any luck, Direct3D 12 will require QBS, and thus NVIDIA (and AMD) will expose it in OpenGL" (for consumer cards). |