From: Shawn M. <sha...@je...> - 2005-04-10 16:28:19
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Hi, I want to show an electrostatic surface of my protein for publication. In Pymol, I believe I can use generate-vacuum electrostatics. However, I am not quite sure what the difference is between absolute and relative protein surface potential. Could you help me with this? Second, I have a question about the slider that appears after the surface is calculated. What do the numbers represent, and what is changing as you slide to the left and right. I want to use the figure for publication and make sure I understand how to explain it properly. Thanks, Shawn- |
From: Chaix D. <den...@cb...> - 2009-05-18 16:07:56
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Dear users I'm trying to compare the electrostatic charge surface of my protein with and without ligand, by using the command "generate vacuum electrostatics". that's works fine for the protein without ATP but that doesn't work with the ligand.The surface obtaine doesn't take account the ligand thanks -- CHAIX Denis Centre de Biochimie Structurale INSERM U554/CNRS 5048 29 rue de Navacelles F-34090 Montpellier, France Tel: 33 4 67 41 77 21 Fax: 33 4 67 41 79 13 e-mail:Den...@cb... http://www.cbs.cnrs.fr |
From: Scott C. <cl...@uc...> - 2005-04-11 16:51:26
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Hi Shawn, As you can see when you select the generate electrostatic surface within PyMol - Warren has stated that it is "unvalidated experimental code" and the results should be viewed with skepticism. If you want publishable electrostatics calculated using more realistic estimates of dielectric constants then you should use eithe APBS, GRASp, or some other Poisson Boltzman solver. Personally I wouldn't put figures generated from PyMols internal electrostatics calculations any any publication. Scott On Apr 10, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Shawn Milano wrote: > Hi, > > I want to show an electrostatic surface of my protein for publication. > In > Pymol, I believe I can use generate-vacuum electrostatics. However, I > am not > quite sure what the difference is between absolute and relative protein > surface potential. Could you help me with this? Second, I have a > question > about the slider that appears after the surface is calculated. What > do the > numbers represent, and what is changing as you slide to the left and > right. > I want to use the figure for publication and make sure I understand > how to > explain it properly. > > Thanks, > > Shawn- |
From: Paulo M. <pm...@ua...> - 2005-04-11 23:03:56
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Shawn Milano wrote: >Hi, > >I want to show an electrostatic surface of my protein for publication. In >Pymol, I believe I can use generate-vacuum electrostatics. However, I am not >quite sure what the difference is between absolute and relative protein >surface potential. Could you help me with this? Second, I have a question >about the slider that appears after the surface is calculated. What do the >numbers represent, and what is changing as you slide to the left and right. >I want to use the figure for publication and make sure I understand how to >explain it properly. > >Thanks, > >Shawn- > > > > Dear Shawn, as the word implies, "relative potential" means that you are looking only at the differences in electrostatic potential between different parts of the protein, as in "a is more positive than b". Absolute potential refers to the absolute values calculated at a given point, irrespective of other regions. Since what matters is the derivative (gradient) of the potential, and not the potential itself, the zero value is fixed by convention, but you want to make sure you use a consistent convention when comparing different calculations. In any case, and as Scott as pointed out, it is not a good idea to estimate molecular potentials for proteins with a vacuum model - you can get very large errors due to neglecting the low-dielectric behavior of the protein interior. Definitely use something like APBS, Grasp, Delphi, MEAD or other Poisson-Boltzmann package which generates electrostatic potential grids in a format that can be read in PyMOL. Also note that both relative and absolute potentials may be deeply affected by the model you use to represent the charges in your molecular system. Best regards, Paulo |