Thread: Re: [PyMOL] pymol 0.90 on redhat 9.0 - no Tk window

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Re: [PyMOL] pymol 0.90 on redhat 9.0 - no Tk window

From: Florian N. <fn...@ma...> - 2003-10-24 03:32:18

On Oct 22, 2003, at 8:42 PM, pym...@li... 
wrote:

> Tkinter is a separate Python module that's an interface to the Tcl Tk
> library.  It's probably just not installed on your system, but it is
> included in the RH 9 distribution (tkinter-2.2.2-26.i386.rpm) so it 
> should
> be easy to find and install.

By the way, isn't there a trick to get the Tk menu in the native MacOS 
X version of Pymol?

RE: [PyMOL] pymol 0.90 on redhat 9.0 - no Tk window

From: Warren L. D. <wa...@de...> - 2003-10-25 14:54:08

Florian,

The main trick is to use an X11/Fink build of PyMOL.  Under 10.3, I'm
hoping OpenGL performance under X11 will be more that of the native
version -- any early returns on this yet?

For proficient developers with X11 installed, there another trick you
can try:  Link source-built PyMOL against native GLUT/OpenGL frameworks
while simultaneously linking against X11-based Python/Tkinter/Tcl/Tk.
This is what I call the "hybrid" build, which gives native-like OpenGL
performance and X11-like user interface compatibility.  Stability was a
problem with this config though, which is why I've never tried to
distribute such a build.

Finally, there is a native Tcl/Tk Aqua port which doesn't require X11,
and which in theory at least would enable a native-like GUI without
having to write Aqua code directly.  However I've heard that there are
stability problems with this Tcl/Tk, and I'm not sure Python's Tkinter
can even work with it.  Does anyone out there have experience using
Tkinter on OSX without X11?

Cheers,
Warren

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> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> 
> On Oct 22, 2003, at 8:42 PM, pym...@li...
> wrote:
> 
> > Tkinter is a separate Python module that's an interface to the Tcl
Tk
> > library.  It's probably just not installed on your system, but it is
> > included in the RH 9 distribution (tkinter-2.2.2-26.i386.rpm) so it
> > should
> > be easy to find and install.
> 
> By the way, isn't there a trick to get the Tk menu in the native MacOS
> X version of Pymol?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PyMOL] pymol 0.90 on redhat 9.0 - no Tk window

From: Florian N. <fn...@ma...> - 2003-10-25 07:07:51

On 24 oct. 03, at 11:59, Warren L. DeLano wrote:

> Florian,
>
> The main trick is to use an X11/Fink build of PyMOL.  Under 10.3, I'm
> hoping OpenGL performance under X11 will be more that of the native
> version -- any early returns on this yet?

I'm using Panther and it seems that the OpenGL performance is on par 
with the native version (opinion based on frame rate performance)
BTW, Panther has Python 2.3 compiled with GCC 3.3.

> Finally, there is a native Tcl/Tk Aqua port which doesn't require X11,
> and which in theory at least would enable a native-like GUI without
> having to write Aqua code directly.

Indeed, I was thinking about something like that.

> However I've heard that there are
> stability problems with this Tcl/Tk, and I'm not sure Python's Tkinter
> can even work with it.

It looks like some people made it work:
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pythonmac-sig/2003-August/008474.html>
Do you want to give it a try?

Re: [PyMOL] pymol 0.90 on redhat 9.0 - no Tk window

From: Florian N. <fn...@un...> - 2003-10-25 07:07:53

On 24 oct. 03, at 11:59, Warren L. DeLano wrote:

> Florian,
>
> The main trick is to use an X11/Fink build of PyMOL.  Under 10.3, I'm
> hoping OpenGL performance under X11 will be more that of the native
> version -- any early returns on this yet?

I'm using Panther and it seems that the OpenGL performance is on par 
with the native version (opinion based on frame rate performance)
BTW, Panther has Python 2.3 compiled with GCC 3.3.

> Finally, there is a native Tcl/Tk Aqua port which doesn't require X11,
> and which in theory at least would enable a native-like GUI without
> having to write Aqua code directly.

Indeed, I was thinking about something like that.

> However I've heard that there are
> stability problems with this Tcl/Tk, and I'm not sure Python's Tkinter
> can even work with it.

It looks like some people made it work:
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pythonmac-sig/2003-August/008474.html>
Do you want to give it a try?

[PyMOL] Release in progress...

From: Warren L. D. <wa...@de...> - 2003-10-25 20:20:14

(in a whisper) 

I'm still in the process of building binaries, but pioneers are welcome
to start downloading 0.92, if your platform is represented.  It has been
a long time since our last release, so proceed with caution!

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4546

Please bring any problems to my attention ASAP, before the Monday
deluge.

Warren

Re: [PyMOL] Release in progress...

From: Nat E. <ec...@uc...> - 2003-10-25 21:19:04

What's been added?  I didn't see a changelog. . .

(the 'dss' command, by the way, looks unbelievably awesome.)

On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Warren L. DeLano wrote:

> (in a whisper)
>
> I'm still in the process of building binaries, but pioneers are welcome
> to start downloading 0.92, if your platform is represented.  It has been
> a long time since our last release, so proceed with caution!
>
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4546
>
> Please bring any problems to my attention ASAP, before the Monday
> deluge.
>
> Warren
>
>
>
>
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