RE: [PyMOL] MacOSX and Three button mice.

[DeLano, W. <wa...@su...>]

Great -- another high traffic day on the PyMOL list!   I do hope =
everyone is aware that you can get the PyMOL list batched into a =
*single* daily message.  That way you can still keep up with PyMOL =
informati without being flooded.  Here's how

Surf to http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users , enter =
your email address, and click select "Edit Options", then set digest =
mode to "on", enter password and submit.

Onto the topic at hand:  MacOSX 3 button mice.

Based on Evan's success (below), it sounds to me like the problem has to =
do with third-party mouse driver software suppressing the normal =
middle-button mouse event.  OSX barely supports the middle button, so it =
isn't surprising that third parties don't even bother.

Deactivation of mouse software is complicated by the fact that with =
PyMOL, the Mac OSX icon you launch is not the one which ends up being =
active (the reasons for this are important but technical...). =20

Thus, my advice would be (1) avoid programmable mouse driver software =
althougher (just don't install it), or failing that (2) try deactivating =
the software for all of the PyMOL application icons in the PyMOL folder =
(as well as in the "Darwin" sub-folder).

Cheers,
Warren

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Evan Sadler [mailto:es...@im...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:27 AM
To: DeLano, Warren
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] MacOSX and Three button mice.


Warren,

Great suggestion to try vanilla. I was programming the mouse from within =
System Preferences, choosing the Microsoft IntelliPoint application =
under "Other". Doing the same, but checking "Disable IntelliPoint =
features..." specifically for application "PyMOL", enabled all L,M,R =
mouse functions as expected under PyMOL. This setting allows the mouse =
to use the OS10 mouse software instead of IntelliPoint.=20

The key points seem to be:

1. Choose the correct PyMOL application icon to define the application =
within the IntelliPoint application.

2. Disable Intellipoint features for PyMOL.=20

Alternatively, I suppose one could simply not install the extra mouse =
software.

Evan



From: "DeLano, Warren" <wa...@su...>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 08:07:29 -0700
To: "J. Evan Sadler" <es...@im...>
Subject: RE: [PyMOL] MacOSX and Three button mice.




Evan,
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Thanks for your detailed response!
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Two more questions for you specifically: =20
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1. Are there any other programs you have which do regonize the middle =
button as such?
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2. Have you tried a plain-old-vanilla intellimouse without any =
programmability?  I haven't installed additional software to get my =
mouse to work, and I'm wondering if somehow the extra software is =
getting the way.  By the way, how are you programming the mouse?
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Cheers,
Warren
=20

-----Original Message-----=20
From: J. Evan Sadler [mailto:es...@im...]=20
Sent: Wed 10/16/2002 7:56 AM=20
To: DeLano, Warren; Andy Calder=20
Cc: pym...@li...=20
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] MacOSX and Three button mice.


I am using the 0.84 version, launching by clicking an alias of the 10.2
application icon in the dock. Pymol does appear in the menu bar, and I =
have
both GUI (PyMOL) and viewer (PyMOL Viewer) windows.

The mouse is a 5 button (counting the wheel button) Intellimouse =
Explorer
3.0 USB mouse, with current intellipoint software for OS10. I have
discovered the following:

1. Program specific settings chosen for PyMol 10.2 are ignored - Global
settings trump.

2. Program specific settings chosen instead for PyMOL (NOT the =
application
icons designated by 10.1 or 10.2) are recognized.

3. Programming the wheel button as "click" or "secondary click" =
correctly
reproduces the behavior of the left or right buttons, respectively.

4. Programming the wheel button as "control+click" or "control+secondary
click" etc works as expected for all combinations in the viewer window =
that
apply to L or R buttons.

5. Nothing I have tried will convince the wheel button to behave as a =
middle
button. For example, command+/-option+click or secondary click are =
ignored;
behavior is same as click or secondary click.

Evan Sadler

> From: "Warren L. DeLano" <wa...@su...>
> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 07:16:37 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Andy Calder <afc...@li...>
> Cc: <pym...@li...>

> Hmm... I've been using a 3-button Microsoft USB Intellimouse with =
PyMOL
> just fine, and the middle mouse button is fully functional under =
10.2.1.
> I didn't need to do any kind of configuration, it just worked.  Thus, =
I
> am flummoxed as to why it doesn't work for you as well!
>
> 1. Are you using the latest beta version (0.84)?
> 2. How are you launching PyMOL?
> 3. Does 'PyMOL' appear in the menu bar?
> 4. Does an external GUI appear?
>
> (The last 2 questions are to insure that PyMOL is getting properly
> initialized).
>
> Since I can't reproduce the problem, it's going to be tough for me to
> solve it.
>
> Does anyone else have an idea what might be causing this problem?
>
> How widespread is the lack of middle-button function on a Mac?
>
> Cheers,
> Warren
>