From: Thomas Holder <speleo3@us...>  20100923 11:33:54

no need to implement common linear algebra functions, there is the chempy.cpv module shipped with pymol (and there is numpy as well). Ramiro, I recently did something similar, just adjust the residue selection in the code below (requires numpy): python from chempy import cpv import numpy, math def plane_normal(selection): stored.x = list() cmd.iterate_state(1, selection, 'stored.x.append([x,y,z])') x = numpy.array(stored.x) U,s,Vh = numpy.linalg.svd(x  x.mean(0)) return cpv.normalize(Vh[2]) dir1 = plane_normal('A/37/CG+CD1+CE1+CZ+CE2+CD2') dir2 = plane_normal('A/41/CG+CD1+CE1+CZ+CE2+CD2') print 'Angle in degrees:', math.degrees(cpv.get_angle(dir1, dir2)) python end Cheers, Thomas On Thu, 20100923 at 13:02 +0200, Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote: > Hi Ramiro, > > A bit of linear algebra wouldn't hurt... :p > In python: > > def vsub(a,b): return a[0]b[0], a[1]b[1], a[2]b[2] > > def dot(a,b): return a[0]*b[0]+a[1]*b[1]+a[2]*b[2] > > def svmul(s,a): return s*a[0], s*a[1], s*a[2] > > def normalize(a): return svmul(1/math.sqrt(dot(a,a)),a) > > def cross(a,b): return a[1]*b[2]a[2]*b[1], a[2]*b[0]a[0]*b[2], > a[0]*b[1]a[1]*b[0] > > a = cmd.get_model('r. phe and i. ##RESIDUE1## and n. cg,ce1,ce2').atom > a = [ i.coord for i in a ] > b = cmd.get_model('r. phe and i. ##RESIDUE2## and n. cg,ce1,ce2').atom > b = [ i.coord for i in b ] > > na = normalize(cross(vsub(a[1],a[0]),vsub(a[2],a[0]))) > nb = normalize(cross(vsub(b[1],b[0]),vsub(b[2],b[0]))) > angle = math.acos(dot(na,nb)) > > print angle > > ### > > Haven't tested it, and there may be more efficient ways of getting the > coordinates. If you run into problems like this more often, it's > likely that you should pick up on algebra and programming... :) > > Have fun, > > Tsjerk > > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Ramiro Téllez Sanz > <urcindalo@...> wrote: > > Thanks for your kind help, Tsjerk. > > > >> Hi Ramiro, > >> > >> Assuming your rings are nicely planar, and representing the ring as: > >> > >> 123 > >>   > >> 654 > >> > >> you can get the plane normal vector as the vector cross product from > >> (3)(1) and (5)(1). > > > > OK. But I just started to use pymol. Which are the commands to do so? > > I know how to get the coordinates of a selected atom, but need the pymol > > commands to treat the data: > > a) How to create the vectors from 1>3 and from 1>5 > > b) How to treat the vectors to perform the vector cross product > > > >> Doing so for both rings gives you the two normal vectors. The angle > >> then follows from the dot product of the (normalized) normal vectors: > >> > >> angle = acos(n1 . n2) > > > > Again, I would need the commands to: > > c) Normalize the vectors (how to set their modules = 1) > > > > I also guess n1 and n2 represent the normalized vectors, don't they? So > > this command is very clear :) > > > >> It becomes a bit more elaborate if the planes are not planar :) > >> > >> Hope it helps, > >> > >> Tsjerk > > > > Again, thanks very much in advance for your kind help. > > > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Ramiro Téllez Sanz > >> <urcindalo@...> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi everyone and thanks for reading this! > >>> > >>> I am interested in measuring the angle between aromatic ring planes. > >>> Is there any easy way/script to do it? > >>> > >>> One way that came to my mind is creating a pseudoatom representing the > >>> centroid for each ring (I already know how to do that), then drawing two > >>> lines perpendicularly to the planes from both centroids, and finally > >>> measuring the angle between the lines. Will that be possible? How could > >>> this be done? > >>> > >>> Is there any other way? I'm completely clueless. Any help will be > >>> greatly appreciated. > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance, > >>> > >>> Ramiro Tellez Sanz > >>> Dept. Physical Chemistry > >>> University of Almeria > >>> Spain > > >  > Tsjerk A. Wassenaar, Ph.D. > > postdoctoral researcher > Molecular Dynamics Group > Groningen Institute for Biomolecular Research and Biotechnology / > University of Groningen > The Netherlands  Thomas Holder Group of Steffen Schmidt Department of Biochemistry MPI for Developmental Biology Spemannstr. 35 D72076 Tübingen 