Re: [pygccxml-development] DSL challenge

[Allen B. <al...@vr...>]

Roman Yakovenko wrote:

> On 8/22/06, Allen Bierbaum <al...@vr...> wrote:
>
>> No problem.  I will take on the DSL design and discussion.  Can I assume
>> that means that you aren't going to introduce a new DSL and surprise us
>> all?  :)
>
>
> Don't you like surprises :-)? No. I am pretty happy with current API.
> I am not in
> a harry to "fix" the situation. I just hope that we will be able to
> solve this issue
> and implement it before next release.

Okay.

>
>> > The only API I introduced was Py++ one. I did not say anything about
>> > how DSL
>> > API looks like.
>>
>> The BUI that you proposed was what I was thinking about.
>
>
> It is not an API, but usage example

I guess so.  It just seemed that the "usage example" ended up defining a 
proposed API as part of the usage. :)

>
>> > Lets talk use cases. I introduced the problematic ones. I expect 
>> from you
>> > to prove me being wrong or to provide good solution.
>>
>> Yes, I have some ideas here.  I will try them out on my current project
>> with the method I suggested of extending and overriding the py++ api.
>
>
> :-( wrong answer. Please don't write single line of code before we 
> solve the
> problematic use cases "on paper". I would like to see definitions, before
> any implementation.

Well I think we are too late now.  I have already started implementing 
because I have to get something working ASAP.  I need to get my project 
done that I am working on with pyplusplus.  As much as I may like the 
idea of pyplusplus and contributing to it, right now I need to get work 
done to pay the bills.

Nothing in the API will be fixed or anything but it will let me give a 
concrete example of how some of the issues could be fixed.

That said, at the same time I am interested in talking through the 
issues using the wiki.


>> > This paper I still have to write :-). But in general you are right, I
>> > don't like two
>> > phased approach, but it is possible to implement it.
>>
>> By "paper" can I assume you mean comment on the wiki page about
>> templates?  That would be much more helpful IMHO then a .rest document
>> or mailing list posting.
>
>
> No, I mean  rest document. I will write an initial paper and then we 
> will take
> the discussion to the wiki.

Why write it as a .rest document at all?  That really just makes it 
harder for us to get access to it and comment on the contents.

-Allen