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[Pydev-code] PyDev 3.3.3 Released

[Fabio Z. <fa...@gm...>]

Hi All,

PyDev 3.3.3 has been released

Details on PyDev: http://pydev.org

Details on its development: http://pydev.blogspot.com

LiClipse (PyDev standalone with goodies such as support for Django
Templates, Kivy Language, Mako Templates, Html, Javascript, etc):
http://brainwy.github.io/liclipse/


What is PyDev?
---------------------------

PyDev is a plugin that enables users to use Eclipse for Python, Jython and
IronPython development -- making Eclipse a first class Python IDE -- It
comes with many goodies such as code completion, syntax highlighting,
syntax analysis, code analysis, refactor, debug, etc.


Release Highlights:
-------------------------------


* **Important**: PyDev requires Eclipse 3.8 or 4.3 onwards and Java 7! For
older versions, keep using PyDev 2.x (see LiClipse:
http://brainwy.github.io/liclipse for a PyDev standalone with all
requirements bundled).


* **Code Completion**:

    - Compiled modules are now indexed and shown in the context-insensitive
code-completion.

    - In an empty file, a code-completion request will show options related
to creating modules (press Ctrl+Space twice to show only those templates).


* **Performance**:

    - Building (indexing) of Python files is **much** faster.

    - Code completion does not get slown down by other analysis done in the
background due to shell synchronization.


* **Interactive Console**:

    - The interactive console now has tab-completion (so, tab can be used
to show completions such as in IPython).


* **Debugger**:

    - **Locals are now properly changed in the debugger** -- along with set
next statement and auto-reloading this can make a debug session much more
enjoyable!

    - Added a way to skip functions on a step-in on functions with
**#@DontTrace** comments:

        - **Makes it possible to skip a lot of boilerplate code on a debug
session!**
        - Can be enabled/disabled in the debugger preferences;
        - Ctrl+1 in a line with a method shows option to add
**#@DontTrace** comment (if enabled in the preferences).

    - Debugging Stackless is much improved, especially for versions of
Stackless released from 2014 onwards (special thanks to Anselm Kruis who
improved stackless itself for this integration to work properly).

    - Reload during a debug session is improved and more stable:

        - Only updates what it can in-place or adds new attributes;

        - Shows what's being patched in the console output;

        - New hooks are provided for clients which may want to extend the
reload;

        - See: Auto Reload in Debugger:
http://pydev.org/manual_adv_debugger_auto_reload.html for more details.



* **General**:

    - Compiled modules are now indexed, so, **fix import with Ctrl+1 now
works with itertools, PyQt and other 'forced builtins'**.

    - When diffing a Python file, the PyDev comparison (with proper syntax
highlighting) is now the default.

    - When finding a definition in a .pyd file, if there's a related .pyx
in the same location, it's opened.

    - Running unit-tests will not try to import files that are in folders
that don't have an __init__.py file.

    - Alt+Shift+O can be used to toggle mark occurrences.

    - Ctrl+3 not bound by default anymore on PyDev so that it does not
conflict with the Eclipse Ctrl+3 (Ctrl+/ can be used instead).

    - Fixed recursion issue when finding file in pydev package explorer.

    - When configuring the interpreter, links are not followed when
resolving entries for the PYTHONPATH.

    - It's possible to launch a directory containing a __main__.py file
executable.

    - Fixed issues when creating django project without any existing
project in the workspace.

    - Fixed deadlock on code-completion.

    - __pycache__ folders are hidden by default.


* **Organize imports**:

    - When saving a file, if automatically organizing imports, don't remove
unused imports even if that option is checked.

    - When saving a file, if automatically organizing imports, and nothing
changes, don't change the buffer (so, no undo command is created).

    - @NoMove can be used in an import so that the import organizer doesn't
mess with it.



* **Refactoring**:

    - Fixed error when moving resource in PYTHONPATH to a dir out of the
PYTHONPATH.

    - On a search make sure we search only python files, not dlls (which
could give OutOfMemory errors and make the search considerably slower).

    - Multiple fixes on the rename module refactoring.



Cheers,

--
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------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [Pydev-code] Run block/section

[Fabio Z. <fa...@es...>]

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 5:08 AM, Sayth Renshaw <fle...@gm...>wrote:

>
> is there a way to run a highlighted section of code in a larger file just
> to test function or that section of code without the rest?
>
> Running latest PyDev on Juno
>
>
Hi Sayth,

Yes, you can  do that with Ctrl+Alt+Enter in the interactive console (see:
http://pydev.org/manual_adv_interactive_console.html)

Cheers,

Fabio

[Pydev-code] Run block/section

[Sayth R. <fle...@gm...>]

is there a way to run a highlighted section of code in a larger file just
to test function or that section of code without the rest?

Running latest PyDev on Juno

Thanks

Sayth

[Pydev-code] PyDev 3.2.0 Released

[Fabio Z. <fa...@gm...>]

Hi All,

PyDev 3.2.0 has been released

Details on PyDev: http://pydev.org

Details on its development: http://pydev.blogspot.com

LiClipse (PyDev standalone with goodies such as support for Django
Templates, Mako Templates, Html, Javascript, etc):
http://brainwy.github.io/liclipse/


Release Highlights:
-------------------------------

* **Important**: PyDev requires Eclipse 3.8 or 4.3 onwards and Java 7! For
older versions, keep using PyDev 2.x.

* **General**:

    * Added option to sort imports on save.

    * Showing dialog suggesting user to customize settings in Eclipse which
are more suitable for PyDev.

    * Memory improvements on situations where an OutOfMemoryError could
happen.

    * Search references (Ctrl+Shift+G) when initial is on external module
works (for matches in workspace).

* **Rename refactoring**:

    * Added option to rename module without updating references.

    * Bugfixes.

* **Performance**:

    * Code completion: Builtins gotten from a shell are now cached for
subsequent requests.

    * Doing a full build (reindex) is faster.

* **Debugger**:

    * Improvements on stackless integration.

    * Providing a view which shows the current caught exception.

    * Providing way to ignore current caught exception.

    * Providing option to show progress on taskbar when breakpoint is hit
to get the users attention (windows 7).

    * Fixed issue in while getting referrers when getting __dict__ and
having an exception.



What is PyDev?
---------------------------

PyDev is a plugin that enables users to use Eclipse for Python, Jython and
IronPython development -- making Eclipse a first class Python IDE -- It
comes with many goodies such as code completion, syntax highlighting,
syntax analysis, refactor, debug and many others.


Cheers,

--
Fabio Zadrozny
------------------------------------------------------
Software Developer

LiClipse
http://brainwy.github.io/liclipse

PyDev - Python Development Environment for Eclipse
http://pydev.org
http://pydev.blogspot.com

[Pydev-code] PyDev 3.1.0 released

[Fabio Z. <fa...@gm...>]

Hi All,

PyDev 3.1.0 has been released

Details on PyDev: http://pydev.org

Details on its development: http://pydev.blogspot.com

LiClipse (PyDev standalone with goodies such as support for Django
Templates, Mako Templates, Html, Javascript, etc):
http://brainwy.github.io/liclipse/


Release Highlights:
-------------------------------

* **Important**: PyDev requires Eclipse 3.8 or 4.3 onwards and Java 7! For
older versions, keep using PyDev 2.x.

* **Refactoring**:

    * It's now possible to rename a module (using F2 or drag and drop in
the pydev package explorer).

    * Multiple improvements on the rename refactoring.

* **Debugger**:

    * **Automatic code reloading on the debugger** (based on xreload).

        * When a file is changed and a debug session is on, PyDev will
automatically reload it (based on xreload).

        * View
https://github.com/fabioz/Pydev/blob/development/plugins/org.python.pydev/pysrc/pydevd_reload.pyfor
caveats/limitations.

    * **Get referrers on debug**

        * Right-click expression or variable in debugger and select 'Get
Referrers'

        * Note: may not work on some Python variants as it needs access to
the gc module.

    * **Stackless python** is now supported in the debugger, showing all
the suspended tasklets in the stack view.

    * Automatically force focus to Eclipse on breakpoint hit (Enable in
prefereces > pydev > debug).

    * The remote debugger can be left 'always on' (Enable in prefereces >
pydev > debug).

    * If there's an exception while evaluating a conditional breakpoint the
thread is suspended and the issue reported.

    * Option to skip caught exceptions thrown and handled in the same
context.

    * A comment with @IgnoreException can be added to lines where an
exception is thrown to have that exception ignored by the debugger when
caught exceptions support is turned on.

    * Improved visualization of frame objects.

    * Bug-fixes on Jython debugging.

* **Unittest**:

    * Django: The default PyDev unittest runner can now run Django tests
properly

    * Selecting a unit-test method in the editor and **right-click > run as
unit-test** will run only the selected unit-test.

    * **Ctrl+F9** with test selected will pre-select only that test to run
in unit-test.


* **General**:

    * Improvements on search for references (Ctrl+Shift+G).

    * Fixed some racing conditions related to the plugin startup.

    * Organize imports has option to add from imports before other imports.

    * Improved connection to shell that does code-completion.

    * Properly supporting creation of shell inside a Jython VM in Eclipse.


What is PyDev?
---------------------------

PyDev is a plugin that enables users to use Eclipse for Python, Jython and
IronPython development -- making Eclipse a first class Python IDE -- It
comes with many goodies such as code completion, syntax highlighting,
syntax analysis, refactor, debug and many others.


Cheers,

--
Fabio Zadrozny
------------------------------------------------------
Software Developer

LiClipse
http://brainwy.github.io/liclipse

PyDev - Python Development Environment for Eclipse
http://pydev.org
http://pydev.blogspot.com

Re: [Pydev-code] Next PyDev Release

[Fabio Z. <fa...@es...>]

Hi Jon,

Have you tried adding 'applescript' to the forced builtins? (see:
http://pydev.org/manual_101_interpreter.html for details)

Cheers,

Fabio


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Jon Joseph <jos...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Fabio: Minor issue with py-applescript. I am using python 3.3 and I
> installed py-applescript and pyobjc (and using Eclipse Juno). The import of
> applescript shows an error (not found) however my code works perfectly so
> obviously it has been found. Using pydev 2.8 since 3.XX did not work
> properly for me.
>
> Jon.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Fabio Zadrozny <fa...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm planning on doing a release shortly (maybe even tomorrow). So, just
>> wanted to check if anyone has anything critical to fix/include in the
>> build...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Fabio
>>
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Re: [Pydev-code] Next PyDev Release

[Jon J. <jos...@gm...>]

Hi Fabio: Minor issue with py-applescript. I am using python 3.3 and I
installed py-applescript and pyobjc (and using Eclipse Juno). The import of
applescript shows an error (not found) however my code works perfectly so
obviously it has been found. Using pydev 2.8 since 3.XX did not work
properly for me.

Jon.


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Fabio Zadrozny <fa...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm planning on doing a release shortly (maybe even tomorrow). So, just
> wanted to check if anyone has anything critical to fix/include in the
> build...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabio
>
>
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[Pydev-code] Next PyDev Release

[Fabio Z. <fa...@gm...>]

Hi All,

I'm planning on doing a release shortly (maybe even tomorrow). So, just
wanted to check if anyone has anything critical to fix/include in the
build...

Cheers,

Fabio

Re: [Pydev-code] Include source features in Pydev update site

[Jonah G. <jo...@ki...>]

Hi Andreas,

I like that idea as I often import PyDev source for solely that reason. I
will look into adding that to the Tycho build and let Fabio review and
approve it.

Thanks,
Jonah
On 3 Dec 2013 13:36, "Andreas Pakulat" <an...@fr...> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering wether it would be possible to include source bundles in
> Pydevs update site so that working with the public API in an RCP
> application that includes PyDev is made a bit easier?
>
> Andreas
>
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[Pydev-code] Include source features in Pydev update site

[Andreas P. <an...@fr...>]

Hi,

I'm wondering wether it would be possible to include source bundles in 
Pydevs update site so that working with the public API in an RCP 
application that includes PyDev is made a bit easier?

Andreas

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Re: [Pydev-code] Request sintax highligh support for .pxd and .pxi files (Cython Support Enhancement)

[Fabio Z. <fa...@es...>]

Please report that to the feature tracker (
https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/)

Cheers,

Fabio


On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Carlos Ferreira <car...@gm...>wrote:

> Helo!
> I don't know if this should be done through here, but I would like to
> request for future releases, the syntax highlight support for .pxd and .pxi
> files (Cython Support Enhancement).
> Currently, PyDev only supports .pyx and adding the other extensions to the
> Valid source Files list, doesn't do anything. I'm using the
> 3.0.0.201311051910 PyDev version.
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[Pydev-code] Request sintax highligh support for .pxd and .pxi files (Cython Support Enhancement)

[Carlos F. <car...@gm...>]

Helo!
I don't know if this should be done through here, but I would like to
request for future releases, the syntax highlight support for .pxd and .pxi
files (Cython Support Enhancement).
Currently, PyDev only supports .pyx and adding the other extensions to the
Valid source Files list, doesn't do anything. I'm using the
3.0.0.201311051910 PyDev version.

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Re: [Pydev-code] PyDev Development first-step help

[Fabio Z. <fa...@es...>]

Adding more comments inline :)


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Kurosch Petzold
<ku...@ze...>wrote:

> Hello Fabio,
>
> thanks for that reply.
>
> Further explanation follows:
>
>
> >> I want implement some features into PyDev and would like to know whether
> >> there is some documentation for development.
> >>
> >
> > As for documentation, I think you probably found:
> > http://pydev.org/developers.html (which gives details on getting the
> code
> > and tips on running it locally).
>
> Thanks for that pointer I did find that already, and thought there would
> be more to it.
> I would like to know whether I should use Jython or Java for the add-ons I
> want to implement.
>

I think for the level of integration you want in the features below, you
want to use it in java.


>
> >>
> >> Features I want to add are:
> >>  # hoare calculus plugin for code verification,
> >>
> > Well, I'm not sure what exactly you'd be verifying here, but as a
> > reference
> > you can probably use the visitor pattern to visit the files -- you should
> > probably create a subclass of
> org.python.pydev.builder.PyDevBuilderVisitor
> > (you can go to that class and press F4 in JDT to see those).
>
> I wanted to use jAlgos(http://j-algo.binaervarianz.de/) Hoare
> functionality and change it from C0 (a simple C dialect) to python, so
> that it is possible to verify ones code using Hoare functionality. This
> would be basically an extra plugin, which will need to access the code
> from the editor somehow, or I will need to extend the editor to be able to
> use that functionality.
>

Interesting :)


>
>
> >>  # some nice variable visualization for teaching purposes,
> >>
> >
> > Well, you probably need to give more details on what's the visualization
> > here in order to help you better...
>
> Basically I want to make some visualization for variables in debug, so
> that it is easier to understand if you do not know much about debugging
> and/or programming. Ofcourse this will mostlikly only work for some basic
> variables first (like array, vector, int, bool..)
>
>
> >
> >>  # some profiling of the code,
> >>
> >
> > There was a patch for a profiler once (
> > http://sourceforge.net/p/pydev/bugs/635/) but it didn't get integrated
> > (needs some work). It may be something you can take a look at... (the
> > patch is at that link).
> >
> Thank you; it seems that this patch is nearly finished and just needs some
> cleaning and implementing your suggestions obviously.
> I would also add some other profiling like program depth.
> I think this (http://pycallgraph.slowchop.com/en/master/) would also be
> useful for cProfiler. It creates a "call graph" of the python programm.
>

That'd be nice :)


>
>
>
> >>  # a mouse hover over functionality to show variable values like in the
> >> visual basic editor
> >>
> >
> > That'd be nice (but I'm not sure exactly what'd be needed, so, not sure I
> > can help you well there).
> >
> Well for this I need to register a timer to the editor window, so that if
> the mouse stays at one point a given time, lets say 5sec, it will start
> the debugger in the background with a breakpoint at the given line and
> requesting the value of the variable underneath the mouse pointer. So my
> question is, is it possible to run the debugger in the background with
> some breakpoint set and getting the wanted variable value? I tried doiung
> this running jython and pdb, but unfortuatly accessing pdb through jython
> is not possible as far as I managed.
>

Actually, when you're in a debug session, PyDev already does that for you
(but starting a debug session just because you're hovering over a variable
is probably something we can't manage to do properly as you'd need to get
to a proper path in the code which could prove impossible to do properly).


>
>
> >>  # and if possible some step back functionality to go a step back in
> >> debugging.
> >>
> >
> > Actually, that already exists: in the debug view, you can choose run >
> set
> > next statement (Ctrl+Alt+R) -- mainly, you can select what should be the
> > next statement -- python has some limitations on that (such as not being
> > able to jump anywhere -- it must be a place in the current frame -- and
> in
> > the same stack -- i.e.: you can't go from an except: block back into the
> > code that generated the exception as that'd be a different block for
> > python), but aside from those, it works pretty well.
> >
> Well if this is already implemented till the point of python limitation
> than there is this one done.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kurosch
>
>
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[Pydev-code] PyDev 3.0 Released

[Fabio Z. <fa...@gm...>]

Hi All,

PyDev 3.0 has been released

Details on PyDev: http://pydev.org

Details on its development: http://pydev.blogspot.com

LiClipse (PyDev standalone with goodies such as support for Django
Templates, Mako Templates, Html, Javascript, etc):
http://brainwy.github.io/liclipse/


Release Highlights:
-------------------------------

* From now on, PyDev requires Eclipse 3.7 or 4.3 onwards and Java 7! For
older versions, keep using PyDev 2.x.

* Interpreter is now kept up to date with changes to the interpreter, so,
pip-installing packages will automatically update internal caches without
requiring a manual step.

* Fixed issue connecting to shell for code-completion (which could halt the
IDE).

* Interactive Console (patches by Jonah Graham)

    * IPython 1.0 is now supported.

    * Computational Crystallography Toolbox (CCTBX:
http://cctbx.sourceforge.net/) can now be used with PyDev.

    * Debug support in interactive console (must be enabled in preferences).

    * User Module Deleter (UMD): forcefully reloads user-loaded modules
when using runfile on interactive console (must be enabled in preferences).

    * GUI event loop integration: more backends are now supported and can
be configured in the preferences.

    * %gui provides customization for the gui event loop integration (i.e.:
%gui wx enables wxPython integration).

    * %edit on IPython will open the file in the PyDev editor.

    * History of commands is now saved to a persistent file.

    * Loading of history is faster.

* Interpreter configuration (patches by Andrew Ferrazzutti)

    * Interpreter configuration quick auto-config: automatically finds a
Python installed and configures it.

    * Interpreter configuration advanced auto-config: searches for multiple
Python installations in the computer and allows selecting one to configure.

    * Source folders (PYTHONPATH) are kept updated on renames and moves in
the PyDev package explorer.

* Grammar 3.x accepts u'str'.

* Fixed project configuration ${PROJECT_DIR_NAME} variable to point to dir
name inside Eclipse and not the folder name in filesystem (this could make
PyDev miss folders in the project PYTHONPATH).

* Debugger:

    * Breakpoints working on files with unicode chars.

    * patches by Jonah Graham:

        * Variables can be pretty-printed with right-click > pretty print.

        * Improved handling for numpy.ndarrays.

* And as usual, many other bugfixes!

What is PyDev?
---------------------------

PyDev is a plugin that enables users to use Eclipse for Python, Jython and
IronPython development -- making Eclipse a first class Python IDE -- It
comes with many goodies such as code completion, syntax highlighting,
syntax analysis, refactor, debug and many others.


Cheers,

--
Fabio Zadrozny
------------------------------------------------------
Software Developer

LiClipse
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PyDev - Python Development Environment for Eclipse
http://pydev.org
http://pydev.blogspot.com

Re: [Pydev-code] PyDev Development first-step help

[Kurosch P. <ku...@ze...>]

Hello Fabio,

thanks for that reply.

Further explanation follows:


>> I want implement some features into PyDev and would like to know whether
>> there is some documentation for development.
>>
>
> As for documentation, I think you probably found:
> http://pydev.org/developers.html (which gives details on getting the code
> and tips on running it locally).

Thanks for that pointer I did find that already, and thought there would
be more to it.
I would like to know whether I should use Jython or Java for the add-ons I
want to implement.

>>
>> Features I want to add are:
>>  # hoare calculus plugin for code verification,
>>
> Well, I'm not sure what exactly you'd be verifying here, but as a
> reference
> you can probably use the visitor pattern to visit the files -- you should
> probably create a subclass of org.python.pydev.builder.PyDevBuilderVisitor
> (you can go to that class and press F4 in JDT to see those).

I wanted to use jAlgos(http://j-algo.binaervarianz.de/) Hoare
functionality and change it from C0 (a simple C dialect) to python, so
that it is possible to verify ones code using Hoare functionality. This
would be basically an extra plugin, which will need to access the code
from the editor somehow, or I will need to extend the editor to be able to
use that functionality.


>>  # some nice variable visualization for teaching purposes,
>>
>
> Well, you probably need to give more details on what's the visualization
> here in order to help you better...

Basically I want to make some visualization for variables in debug, so
that it is easier to understand if you do not know much about debugging
and/or programming. Ofcourse this will mostlikly only work for some basic
variables first (like array, vector, int, bool..)


>
>>  # some profiling of the code,
>>
>
> There was a patch for a profiler once (
> http://sourceforge.net/p/pydev/bugs/635/) but it didn't get integrated
> (needs some work). It may be something you can take a look at... (the
> patch is at that link).
>
Thank you; it seems that this patch is nearly finished and just needs some
cleaning and implementing your suggestions obviously.
I would also add some other profiling like program depth.
I think this (http://pycallgraph.slowchop.com/en/master/) would also be
useful for cProfiler. It creates a "call graph" of the python programm.



>>  # a mouse hover over functionality to show variable values like in the
>> visual basic editor
>>
>
> That'd be nice (but I'm not sure exactly what'd be needed, so, not sure I
> can help you well there).
>
Well for this I need to register a timer to the editor window, so that if
the mouse stays at one point a given time, lets say 5sec, it will start
the debugger in the background with a breakpoint at the given line and
requesting the value of the variable underneath the mouse pointer. So my
question is, is it possible to run the debugger in the background with
some breakpoint set and getting the wanted variable value? I tried doiung
this running jython and pdb, but unfortuatly accessing pdb through jython
is not possible as far as I managed.


>>  # and if possible some step back functionality to go a step back in
>> debugging.
>>
>
> Actually, that already exists: in the debug view, you can choose run > set
> next statement (Ctrl+Alt+R) -- mainly, you can select what should be the
> next statement -- python has some limitations on that (such as not being
> able to jump anywhere -- it must be a place in the current frame -- and in
> the same stack -- i.e.: you can't go from an except: block back into the
> code that generated the exception as that'd be a different block for
> python), but aside from those, it works pretty well.
>
Well if this is already implemented till the point of python limitation
than there is this one done.


Thanks,

Kurosch

Re: [Pydev-code] PyDev Development first-step help

[Fabio Z. <fa...@es...>]

Hi Kurosch,

Sorry for the late reply... (answers inline)

On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Kurosch Petzold <
ku...@ze...> wrote:

> Hello Everybody,
>
> I want implement some features into PyDev and would like to know whether
> there is some documentation for development.
>

As for documentation, I think you probably found:
http://pydev.org/developers.html (which gives details on getting the code
and tips on running it locally).


>
> Features I want to add are:
>  # hoare calculus plugin for code verification,
>

Well, I'm not sure what exactly you'd be verifying here, but as a reference
you can probably use the visitor pattern to visit the files -- you should
probably create a subclass of org.python.pydev.builder.PyDevBuilderVisitor
(you can go to that class and press F4 in JDT to see those).


>  # some nice variable visualization for teaching purposes,
>

Well, you probably need to give more details on what's the visualization
here in order to help you better...


>  # some profiling of the code,
>

There was a patch for a profiler once (
http://sourceforge.net/p/pydev/bugs/635/) but it didn't get integrated
(needs some work). It may be something you can take a look at... (the patch
is at that link).


>  # a mouse hover over functionality to show variable values like in the
> visual basic editor
>

That'd be nice (but I'm not sure exactly what'd be needed, so, not sure I
can help you well there).


>  # and if possible some step back functionality to go a step back in
> debugging.
>

Actually, that already exists: in the debug view, you can choose run > set
next statement (Ctrl+Alt+R) -- mainly, you can select what should be the
next statement -- python has some limitations on that (such as not being
able to jump anywhere -- it must be a place in the current frame -- and in
the same stack -- i.e.: you can't go from an except: block back into the
code that generated the exception as that'd be a different block for
python), but aside from those, it works pretty well.


>
> I would really appreciate any pointers to anything that can be helpful for
>  implementing those features.
>

Hope that's enough to get you started.

If you need more help, just ask in the list :)

Cheers,

Fabio


>
> Sincere
>
> Kurosch
>
>
>
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[Pydev-code] Installing interpreters with PyDev

[Andrew F. <afe...@re...>]

Hi Fabio,

Jonah has been making some improvements to the way PyDev installs non-installed interpreters (https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/Pydev/commit/312255faa9e843958b6bb63920dea862d48f5fe6). I was going to test the patch to confirm that it works properly, but I can't seem to find a way for a provider to ever be non-installed. The only class that extends IInterpreterProvider is AlreadyInstalledInterpreterProvider, so any calls of #isInstalled() or #runInstall() never actually do anything, or so it seems to me. Am I missing something, or is this an incomplete feature?

Andrew

Re: [Pydev-code] New Auto Config issues

[Jonah G. <jo...@ki...>]

OK, I have implemented the runInstall as intended, i.e. it now runs
only if the user selected it or if there is only one provider.

Unfortunately this has made a complicated function even more
complicated, so any review on it is probably a good idea. See
https://github.com/fabioz/Pydev/pull/93

Jonah
~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders Ltd.
www.kichwacoders.com



On 28 October 2013 15:31, Jonah Graham <jo...@ki...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have fixed (potentially) Bug 229:
> https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/Pydev/tree/exclude_operation_that_have_failed
>
> The bug got in the way of me trying to code up what I said below.
>
> Jonah
>
>
> ~~~
> Jonah Graham
> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
> www.kichwacoders.com
>
>
>
> On 28 October 2013 15:24, Jonah Graham <jo...@ki...> wrote:
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> A further problem has been identified with your changes. Summarized by
>> this TODO that you added in AutoConfigMaker:autoConfigSearch():
>>                     if (!provider.isInstalled()) { //TODO should it
>> ALWAYS be installed here??
>> The answer is that it isn't always installed here, for example we (at
>> Diamond/DAWN) use this to optionally install a Python install. I.e.
>> what should be presented is an uninstalled version in the list and if
>> the user selects it then in should then be installed before the
>> configuration is continued.
>>
>> I am working on a proposed fix for this as perhaps the fix may explain
>> better why the API has an "isInstalled" and a "runInstall" method.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jonah
>> ~~~
>> Jonah Graham
>> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
>> www.kichwacoders.com
>>
>> On 28 October 2013 13:47, Andrew Ferrazzutti <afe...@re...> wrote:
>>> Hi Jonah,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the heads up. These problems are happening because I changed the auto-configurers to find interpreters whose names begin with a target string ("python"/"jython" etc) as opposed to exactly matching the string like they used to.
>>>
>>> I did made this change to allow the auto-configurers to find more than just the most recent version of an interpreter (ie "python2.7" and "python3.3", not just "python"). Clearly there are some issues with my implementation that I overlooked, and I'll get to fixing them right away.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jonah Graham" <jo...@ki...>
>>> To: pyd...@li...
>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:59:52 AM
>>> Subject: [Pydev-code] New Auto Config issues
>>>
>>> Hi Andrew,
>>>
>>> I was just testing the new auto-config changes you contributed on
>>> Ubuntu 12.04 and I ran into a couple of issues. I filed them in the
>>> tracker, but wanted to alert you to them in case you didn't see them
>>> already.
>>>
>>> https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/228
>>> https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/229
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jonah
>>>
>>> ~~~
>>> Jonah Graham
>>> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
>>> www.kichwacoders.com

Re: [Pydev-code] New Auto Config issues

[Jonah G. <jo...@ki...>]

Hi,

I have fixed (potentially) Bug 229:
https://github.com/jonahkichwacoders/Pydev/tree/exclude_operation_that_have_failed

The bug got in the way of me trying to code up what I said below.

Jonah


~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders Ltd.
www.kichwacoders.com



On 28 October 2013 15:24, Jonah Graham <jo...@ki...> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> A further problem has been identified with your changes. Summarized by
> this TODO that you added in AutoConfigMaker:autoConfigSearch():
>                     if (!provider.isInstalled()) { //TODO should it
> ALWAYS be installed here??
> The answer is that it isn't always installed here, for example we (at
> Diamond/DAWN) use this to optionally install a Python install. I.e.
> what should be presented is an uninstalled version in the list and if
> the user selects it then in should then be installed before the
> configuration is continued.
>
> I am working on a proposed fix for this as perhaps the fix may explain
> better why the API has an "isInstalled" and a "runInstall" method.
>
> Thanks,
> Jonah
> ~~~
> Jonah Graham
> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
> www.kichwacoders.com
>
> On 28 October 2013 13:47, Andrew Ferrazzutti <afe...@re...> wrote:
>> Hi Jonah,
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up. These problems are happening because I changed the auto-configurers to find interpreters whose names begin with a target string ("python"/"jython" etc) as opposed to exactly matching the string like they used to.
>>
>> I did made this change to allow the auto-configurers to find more than just the most recent version of an interpreter (ie "python2.7" and "python3.3", not just "python"). Clearly there are some issues with my implementation that I overlooked, and I'll get to fixing them right away.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jonah Graham" <jo...@ki...>
>> To: pyd...@li...
>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:59:52 AM
>> Subject: [Pydev-code] New Auto Config issues
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> I was just testing the new auto-config changes you contributed on
>> Ubuntu 12.04 and I ran into a couple of issues. I filed them in the
>> tracker, but wanted to alert you to them in case you didn't see them
>> already.
>>
>> https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/228
>> https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/229
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jonah
>>
>> ~~~
>> Jonah Graham
>> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
>> www.kichwacoders.com

Re: [Pydev-code] New Auto Config issues

[Jonah G. <jo...@ki...>]

Hi Andrew,

A further problem has been identified with your changes. Summarized by
this TODO that you added in AutoConfigMaker:autoConfigSearch():
                    if (!provider.isInstalled()) { //TODO should it
ALWAYS be installed here??
The answer is that it isn't always installed here, for example we (at
Diamond/DAWN) use this to optionally install a Python install. I.e.
what should be presented is an uninstalled version in the list and if
the user selects it then in should then be installed before the
configuration is continued.

I am working on a proposed fix for this as perhaps the fix may explain
better why the API has an "isInstalled" and a "runInstall" method.

Thanks,
Jonah
~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders Ltd.
www.kichwacoders.com
jo...@ki...
+44 (0) 1494523014
+44 (0) 7988836817


On 28 October 2013 13:47, Andrew Ferrazzutti <afe...@re...> wrote:
> Hi Jonah,
>
> Thanks for the heads up. These problems are happening because I changed the auto-configurers to find interpreters whose names begin with a target string ("python"/"jython" etc) as opposed to exactly matching the string like they used to.
>
> I did made this change to allow the auto-configurers to find more than just the most recent version of an interpreter (ie "python2.7" and "python3.3", not just "python"). Clearly there are some issues with my implementation that I overlooked, and I'll get to fixing them right away.
>
> Andrew
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jonah Graham" <jo...@ki...>
> To: pyd...@li...
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:59:52 AM
> Subject: [Pydev-code] New Auto Config issues
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> I was just testing the new auto-config changes you contributed on
> Ubuntu 12.04 and I ran into a couple of issues. I filed them in the
> tracker, but wanted to alert you to them in case you didn't see them
> already.
>
> https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/228
> https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/229
>
> Thanks
> Jonah
>
> ~~~
> Jonah Graham
> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
> www.kichwacoders.com

Re: [Pydev-code] New Auto Config issues

[Andrew F. <afe...@re...>]

Hi Jonah,

Thanks for the heads up. These problems are happening because I changed the auto-configurers to find interpreters whose names begin with a target string ("python"/"jython" etc) as opposed to exactly matching the string like they used to.

I did made this change to allow the auto-configurers to find more than just the most recent version of an interpreter (ie "python2.7" and "python3.3", not just "python"). Clearly there are some issues with my implementation that I overlooked, and I'll get to fixing them right away.

Andrew

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonah Graham" <jo...@ki...>
To: pyd...@li...
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:59:52 AM
Subject: [Pydev-code] New Auto Config issues

Hi Andrew,

I was just testing the new auto-config changes you contributed on
Ubuntu 12.04 and I ran into a couple of issues. I filed them in the
tracker, but wanted to alert you to them in case you didn't see them
already.

https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/228
https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/229

Thanks
Jonah

~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders Ltd.
www.kichwacoders.com

[Pydev-code] PyDev Development first-step help

[Kurosch P. <ku...@ze...>]

Hello Everybody,

I want implement some features into PyDev and would like to know whether
there is some documentation for development.

Features I want to add are:
 # hoare calculus plugin for code verification,
 # some nice variable visualization for teaching purposes,
 # some profiling of the code,
 # a mouse hover over functionality to show variable values like in the
visual basic editor
 # and if possible some step back functionality to go a step back in
debugging.

I would really appreciate any pointers to anything that can be helpful for
 implementing those features.


Sincere

Kurosch

[Pydev-code] New Auto Config issues

[Jonah G. <jo...@ki...>]

Hi Andrew,

I was just testing the new auto-config changes you contributed on
Ubuntu 12.04 and I ran into a couple of issues. I filed them in the
tracker, but wanted to alert you to them in case you didn't see them
already.

https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/228
https://sw-brainwy.rhcloud.com/tracker/PyDev/229

Thanks
Jonah

~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders Ltd.
www.kichwacoders.com

Re: [Pydev-code] Preparing for PyDev 3.0 release

[Fabio Z. <fa...@es...>]

Hi Jonah,

You're right, sorry about that, Let me rectify it: PyDev will keep working
with 3.7+ (and not 3.8 as in my last e-mail).

Cheers,

Fabio


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Jonah Graham <jo...@ki...>wrote:

> Fabio,
>
> BTW you previously announced that PyDev was going to support Eclipse
> 3.7+ http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31317029
>
> I am not sure who this change may affect, nor can I say whether or not
> PyDev works with 3.7 anyway or what may have broken it, but I just
> wanted to flag this change.
>
> Jonah
>
>
>
> ~~~
> Jonah Graham
> Kichwa Coders Ltd.
> www.kichwacoders.com
>
>
>
> On 22 October 2013 20:39, Fabio Zadrozny <fa...@gm...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The current plan is to release PyDev 3.0 next week (as discussed
> previously,
> > this will be the first release that requires Java 7 to run and breaks
> > compatibility with Eclipse versions older than 3.8).
> >
> > So, the idea is not to push anything big from now on until the release --
> > but bugfixes, docs and testing are very welcome :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Fabio
> >
> > p.s.: I've just pushed a new nightly build for those that want to test
> the
> > release.
> >
> >
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Re: [Pydev-code] Preparing for PyDev 3.0 release

[Jonah G. <jo...@ki...>]

Fabio,

BTW you previously announced that PyDev was going to support Eclipse
3.7+ http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31317029

I am not sure who this change may affect, nor can I say whether or not
PyDev works with 3.7 anyway or what may have broken it, but I just
wanted to flag this change.

Jonah



~~~
Jonah Graham
Kichwa Coders Ltd.
www.kichwacoders.com



On 22 October 2013 20:39, Fabio Zadrozny <fa...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The current plan is to release PyDev 3.0 next week (as discussed previously,
> this will be the first release that requires Java 7 to run and breaks
> compatibility with Eclipse versions older than 3.8).
>
> So, the idea is not to push anything big from now on until the release --
> but bugfixes, docs and testing are very welcome :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fabio
>
> p.s.: I've just pushed a new nightly build for those that want to test the
> release.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> October Webinars: Code for Performance
> Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance.
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