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[Pydev-code] Re: PyDev development

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

Parhaum Toofanian wrote:

> Sorry to bother you again.
> 
> Just for starters, to get my feet wet, I fixed Fabio's AddBlockComment
> handling, added a RemoveBlockComment feature, added the Remove action to the
> menu, right-click, and hotkey.  I also made the Block Separator string
> user-defined in the preference page as opposed to hardcoded as
> ===============.

Sounds like you are warming up to coding in Eclipse. Good, hope 
lots of good stuff comes out.

> For this and other changes I make, should I run the changes by you, or just
> do add new files to version control and run a commit from within Eclipse?
> What is the procedure that you would prefer?  Or will it not let me perform
> a commit at all since I have the project checked out from an anonymous CVS
> checkout?

You need to get checkin privileges to be able to check in the 
source. Tell me your slashdot id, and I'll give you the privileges.

Up until now, I was the lead guy, spending lots of time on this. 
Developers checked in their code, and emailed me about it. I 
reviewed the changes, and made sure it all worked correctly.

I am not sure what the right policy for the future should be. I 
am moving away from the project. My plan is to put out one more 
release compatible with Eclipse 3, and call it a 1.0. After that, 
the project will need a new lead.

For now, I'd like you to email pydev-code about your changes. 
I'll take a look at them once I start the E3 port. If you'd like 
to provide documenation for the end users, edit 
org.python.pydev.help.

Good luck,

Aleks

Re: [Pydev-code] Quick Status Update

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

Dana Moore wrote:

> No Problems with your leaving the project behind. 
> 
> When would you anticipate that you'd like to release 1.0?

A couple of weeks after Eclipse 3 is released. I was thinking of 
creating a branch and releasing it now, but it is just too much 
of a hassle.

> If the timeline is reasonable and If I make sufficient progress with
> the autocomplete stuff it can make it into 1.0.

That would be great. It would be nice to leave the project in a 
consistent state.

> As an aside, I just completed working on a semantic web language IDE
> (SWeDE) based on Eclipse
> (http://projects.semwebcentral.org/projects/owl-eclipse/), so I have
> learnt a TON of Eclipse-ish stuff. Therefore, I feel in somewhat a
> decent position to go forward and will make time to maintain and
> support.

Welcome to the Eclipse learning club.

Interesting. The semantic web pops up any time I need to scratch 
an itch. I've been thinking about RDF recently. Several of the 
projects I've been dealing with have a need for semi-structured 
db. I've used RDF before, and some things like 
ordering/quantifying arcs (a likes b very much) are hard to 
represent. Today I've been toying with the idea of what would 
happen if we took away triples and replaced them with 2-tuples. 
So instead of:
A likes B
you'd have
A has property Likeable234 has properties (B)
Likeable234 has a class Likeable

Fun stuff. I have not found a semi-structured data architecture 
that I like, it might be the next project. Every one of them 
requires structure to be declared apriori. I did a lot of work 
with RDF in a very loose environment where we had no schema, and 
coded in straight C, and we got a lot accomplished. Then the 
database outgrew available memory, and things became hard....

Aleks

Re: [Pydev-code] Quick Status Update

[Dana M. <dan...@ya...>]

Yeah, I see the offending line in the build.properties
I checked in a new one. 

After that, the Jython stuff should just build. There is not a need for
src. Don't know how it got into the build.properties. As a matter of
info, you can wrap any external lib as a Plugin (and you need to wrap
_every_ loadable jar as a Plugin) by simply providing it a plugin.xml,
see
http://owl-eclipse.projects.semwebcentral.org/CreateLibraryPlugin.html
for step by step.

After you check out the build.properties, you might want to 
open the plugin.xml and right click on the dependencies tab and say
recompute build path. This will mod the .project and the .classpath
files as well.

As far as what the inclusion of the jython stuff does, yo uwon't see
anything useful just yet. I put it there for infrastructure reasons.
What the new code _will_ do, once I get the troubling few issues
squared away will be to offer the same level of autocompletion as
jythonconsole does but whilst the file is being actively editted of
course.


No Problems with your leaving the project behind. 

When would you anticipate that you'd like to release 1.0?

If the timeline is reasonable and If I make sufficient progress with
the autocomplete stuff it can make it into 1.0.

As an aside, I just completed working on a semantic web language IDE
(SWeDE) based on Eclipse
(http://projects.semwebcentral.org/projects/owl-eclipse/), so I have
learnt a TON of Eclipse-ish stuff. Therefore, I feel in somewhat a
decent position to go forward and will make time to maintain and
support.


As far as new ideas go beyond 1.0, I have been thinking of additional
code helpers and generators, and perhaps hooking this into SWeDE (as a
side effort) so that Python is the natural choice for language when
working with the semantic web. I have listed that for the next SWeDE
development spiral, which is being funded as a part of a DARPA
programme.

I am also thinking about visual helpers for code generation and
property inspectors. I imagine there are many other things we might
toss into the mix, but I want to get some experience with using what we
have created in a programming - in - the - large (enterprise) setting
to see what I would like to have and what others may complain about.

I know that Bill (who has been busy also) has some additional
contributions he wanted to make, and he may comment separately.

Regards,
 
--- Aleks Totic <a...@to...> wrote:
> Cool. What does the new code do?
> 
> I am unable to compile now. Jython project is complaining about 
> the missing /src directory. Can you check it in?
> 
> I am starting to move away from supporting Pydev. I'll port it to 
> Eclipse3, call it 1.0 stable, and that'll be it, save for bug 
> maintenance. Any ideas on how pydev should continue to evolve, so 
> that your contributions get released?
> 
> If you'd like to maintain release notes, and do bug support for 
> your features, I could post new releases.
> 
> Aleks


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Re: [Pydev-code] Quick Status Update -- IGNORE PREV MESSAGE

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

Cool. What does the new code do?

I am unable to compile now. Jython project is complaining about 
the missing /src directory. Can you check it in?

I am starting to move away from supporting Pydev. I'll port it to 
Eclipse3, call it 1.0 stable, and that'll be it, save for bug 
maintenance. Any ideas on how pydev should continue to evolve, so 
that your contributions get released?

If you'd like to maintain release notes, and do bug support for 
your features, I could post new releases.

Aleks


Dana Moore wrote:

> I finally found time to get back onto PyDev.
> I checked in a wrapper for Jython to support
> PythonCompletionProcessor.java.
> Now  I'm working to get that to call a couple the same python modules
> that autocomplete code for PyAlaMode.
.......
> NOW, here's the question I actually want to ask:
> is ther a way to import Python files from JAR Archives, so that we can
> make this stand alone without forcing the use to install JYTHON???
> There's a tantalising hint in the jython-dev message:
>  http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/Jython-users/2070925
> 
> BUT the technique he describes, he says is in the message:
> http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/7017/2001/9/50/6639698/
> 
> I can't seem to find that anywhere. Does anyone have insights into
> this???

I do not understand why do you need to import Python files from 
JAR archives. How would that alleviate the need to install 
jython? You can run local files without problems, the debugger 
does it.

Aleks

Re: [Pydev-code] Quick Status Update -- IGNORE PREV MESSAGE

[Dana M. <dan...@ya...>]

All,


I finally found time to get back onto PyDev.
I checked in a wrapper for Jython to support
PythonCompletionProcessor.java.
Now  I'm working to get that to call a couple the same python modules
that autocomplete code for PyAlaMode.

Currently, I have a very brittle strategy for play purposes only which
is to:
...
PythonInterpreter interp = initInterpreter() // do whatever init is req
// these modules are in the Jython Lib Path
// THIS IS NOT A SUSTAINABLE STRATEGY (!)
// WHAT WE REALLY WANT IS TO GET THEM FROM A JAR FILE BUNDLED WITH 
// THE JYTHON ECLIPSE PLUGIN (see more about this later in the message)
interp.exec("from PyDev import jintrospect");
PyString command = new PyString( (String) textAtomBeforeTheDot);
interp.exec(
"theList = jintrospect.getAutoCompleteList(
        command="+cmd+", locals=locals())");
PyList theList = (PyList) interp.get("theList");
// then, populate the completion proposals and return

for (int i = 0; i < theList.__len__(); i++) {
    propList.add(theList[i]);		
}	 
ICompletionProposal[] proposals =
    new ICompletionProposal[propList.size()];
// and fill with list elements
propList.toArray(proposals);
// Return the proposals
return proposals;
...

NOW, here's the question I actually want to ask:
is ther a way to import Python files from JAR Archives, so that we can
make this stand alone without forcing the use to install JYTHON???
There's a tantalising hint in the jython-dev message:
 http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/Jython-users/2070925

BUT the technique he describes, he says is in the message:
http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/7017/2001/9/50/6639698/

I can't seem to find that anywhere. Does anyone have insights into
this???






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Re: [Pydev-code] Quick Status Update

[Dana M. <dan...@ya...>]

I finally found time to get back onto PyDev.
I checked in a wrapper for Jython to support
PythonCompletionProcessor.java.
Now working to get that to call a couple the same python modules that
autocomplete code for PyAlaMode.
Basically, the strategy is to:
...
PythonInterpreter interp = initInterpreter() // do whatever init is req
// these modules are in the Jython Lib Path
// THIS IS NOT A SUSTAINABLE STRATEGY (!)
// WHAT WE REALLY WANT IS TO GET THEM FROM A JAR FILE BUNDLED WITH 
// THE JYTHON ECLIPSE PLUGIN (see more about this later in the message)
interp.exec("from PyDev import jintrospect");
interp.exec("from PyDev.play import *");
interp.exec(
"theList = jintrospect.getAutoCompleteList(
        command='y.', locals=locals())");
PyList theList = (PyList) interp.get("theList");
// then, populate the completion proposals and return 
ICompletionProposal[] proposals =
new ICompletionProposal[propList.size()];
		// and fill with list elements
		propList.toArray(proposals);
		// Return the proposals
		return proposals;
...


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[Pydev-code] Change in Ctrl+Click

[Fabio Z. <fa...@in...>]

Aleks,

I did some changes in the way you get function calls, since it was not
getting correctly class definitions.

I also added an F3 shortcut to the same functionality Ctrl+Click has (I
don't like to use the mouse very much :-) ).
=20
[]s

Fabio

-----Original Message-----
From: pyd...@li...
[mailto:pyd...@li...] On Behalf Of Aleks Totic
Sent: sexta-feira, 21 de maio de 2004 14:09
To: pyd...@li...
Subject: RE: [Pydev-code] Build problem

Glad you got it. I am out of town until monday, so I could
not help you.

Aleks

--- Fabio Zadrozny <fa...@in...> wrote:
> Sorry...my eclipse didn't show me the folder on
> synchronize... but I got it
> now...
>=20
> Fabio
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pyd...@li...
> [mailto:pyd...@li...] On Behalf
> Of Fabio Zadrozny
> Sent: quinta-feira, 20 de maio de 2004 15:32
> To: pyd...@li...
> Subject: [Pydev-code] Build problem
>=20
> Hi All,
>=20
> I just updated the cvs to get the last version of the
> pydev plugin, but I
> had some problems building it manly because the package
> org.python.pydev.editor.model is used but is not in the
> cvs... I think that
> maybe someone forgot to check it in...
>=20
> Fabio
>=20


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RE: [Pydev-code] Build problem

[Aleks T. <at...@ya...>]

Glad you got it. I am out of town until monday, so I could
not help you.

Aleks

--- Fabio Zadrozny <fa...@in...> wrote:
> Sorry...my eclipse didn't show me the folder on
> synchronize... but I got it
> now...
> 
> Fabio
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pyd...@li...
> [mailto:pyd...@li...] On Behalf
> Of Fabio Zadrozny
> Sent: quinta-feira, 20 de maio de 2004 15:32
> To: pyd...@li...
> Subject: [Pydev-code] Build problem
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I just updated the cvs to get the last version of the
> pydev plugin, but I
> had some problems building it manly because the package
> org.python.pydev.editor.model is used but is not in the
> cvs... I think that
> maybe someone forgot to check it in...
> 
> Fabio
> 


	
		
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RE: [Pydev-code] Build problem

[Fabio Z. <fa...@in...>]

Sorry...my eclipse didn't show me the folder on synchronize... but I got it
now...

Fabio

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Sent: quinta-feira, 20 de maio de 2004 15:32
To: pyd...@li...
Subject: [Pydev-code] Build problem

Hi All,

I just updated the cvs to get the last version of the pydev plugin, but I
had some problems building it manly because the package
org.python.pydev.editor.model is used but is not in the cvs... I think that
maybe someone forgot to check it in...

Fabio



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RE: [Pydev-code] Build problem - on build 0.4.1

[Fabio Z. <fa...@in...>]

I got the last build (0.4.1) and it also gave me the following error:

java.lang.Error: Unresolved compilation problems: 
	The import org.python.pydev.editor.model cannot be resolved
	The import org.python.pydev.editor.model cannot be resolved
	The import org.python.pydev.editor.model cannot be resolved
	The import org.python.pydev.editor.model cannot be resolved
	AbstractNode cannot be resolved (or is not a valid type) for the
field PyEdit.pythonModel
	AbstractNode cannot be resolved (or is not a valid return type) for
the method getPythonModel
	AbstractNode cannot be resolved (or is not a valid type) for the
argument node of the method revealModelNode
	pythonModel cannot be resolved
	ModelMaker cannot be resolved
	pythonModel cannot be resolved
	IModelListener cannot be resolved (or is not a valid type) for the
argument listener of the method addModelListener
	IModelListener cannot be resolved (or is not a valid type) for the
argument listener of the method removeModelListener
	AbstractNode cannot be resolved (or is not a valid type) for the
argument root of the method fireModelChanged
	IModelListener cannot be resolved or is not a type
	IModelListener cannot be resolved or is not a type

Fabio

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Sent: quinta-feira, 20 de maio de 2004 15:32
To: pyd...@li...
Subject: [Pydev-code] Build problem

Hi All,

I just updated the cvs to get the last version of the pydev plugin, but I
had some problems building it manly because the package
org.python.pydev.editor.model is used but is not in the cvs... I think that
maybe someone forgot to check it in...

Fabio



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[Pydev-code] Build problem

[Fabio Z. <fa...@in...>]

Hi All,

I just updated the cvs to get the last version of the pydev plugin, but I
had some problems building it manly because the package
org.python.pydev.editor.model is used but is not in the cvs... I think that
maybe someone forgot to check it in...

Fabio

[Pydev-code] Re: Debugging problem

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

Hi,
I've fixed the bug and rolled it into a new release. I have not 
put it on the sf release page yet, but you can get it from the 
update site: http://pydev.sf.net/updates/

The problem was that "<string>" was a name of the file in the 
stack, which caused XML parser to croak. I've fixed it so that 
file names are now also encoded.

To be expected, I've tested the debugger only on a couple of test 
cases.

Aleks

Ron Smith wrote:

> 
> When I took a look at pydevd.py file, I thought it odd that
> it didn't have a .pyc file, but pydevd_vars.py did.
> I tried to run it standalone to see if the interpreter would
> generate the .pyc, and got an error with the socket
> bind() call in startServer(...).  The bind call was expecting
> a tuple rather than an int.  It's probably unrelated, but
> I replaced it with:
> s.bind(('', port))
> and didn't get the error anymore.

[Pydev-code] Variables checked in

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

I've just checked in the variable display for the debugger. It 
was a lot of detail work, merging the way Eclipse & python think.

Final architecture is fairly simple.

 From Eclipse's point of view, variables are arranged 
hierarchically, with each variable belonging to a stack frame, or 
another variable. The variables come in two flavors, simple & 
container. The content of containers is obtained dynamically over 
the network with GetVariablesCommand.

The debugger responds to GetVariableCommand by creating an 
dictionary of variable contents, and returning this dictionary to 
Eclipse. Right now, I know how to build dictionary for 
dictionaries, objects & tuples. Unimplemented container objects 
will get plea for volunteers to implement them. It is pretty 
simple, and involves subsclassing Resolver class in pydevd_vars.

Current areas for improvement are:
- implementing unimplemented container variables
- smarter refresh when stepping. Right now, the variable 
hierarchy closes after every step.

I've also checked in minor tweaks to the editor.

I hope to implement breakpoints by the end of the week, and then 
I am ready for 0.4. Anything you'd like to check in before the 
next release?

This will probably be my last big feature release. But more on 
that later...

Aleks

Re: [Pydev-code] Re: PyDev

[Marshall C. <mar...@ar...>]

Hey everbody =)

I just digested the entire 15 or so messages in the
pydev-code archive and I think you guys are
approaching the auto completion very well =).

As far as I understand, working on the include path
setup is analagous to the java source/class path setup
for java projects in eclipse, correct? I'll try to get
cracking on this asap =).

After I'm done with this I have some other nifty
things I'd like to get working on.. Auto-source
generators, source formatters, maybe some kind of
attribute oriented meta programming analagous to
xdoclet for java.

What do you guys think?

-Marshall


--- Aleks Totic <at...@ya...> wrote:
> Hi Marshall,
> sounds great, we always need more volunteer. Have
> you
> checked out/compiled the latest source?
> 
> I am planning on putting out a release in 3 weeks.
> The
> major new features will be:
> Editor: hyperlinking. See editor's changes.txt for
> details.
> Debugger: more or less fully functional one.
> Code completion: Dana is working on it, he's got the
> details.
> 
> There has been a lot of discussion about code
> completion.
> Check out the archives, and talk to Dana about it.
> 
> I've added you to the pydev-code mailing list, so
> you can
> start the discussion, and see what the others are
> doing.
> 
> As a warmup, it'd be nice if you implemented the
> include
> paths settings for projects of a python nature. The
> stub
> code is already there, it just needs the real
> widget, like
> Java includes. See TODO inside ProjectProperties.
> This will
> be needed for the browser/code completion, anything
> that
> requires us to search for Python includes.
> 
> For chat, you can reach me on AIM:atotic
> 
> Aleks
> 
> --- Marshall Culpepper <mar...@ar...> wrote:
> > Aleks..
> > 
> >   Hey, i've been using pydev off and on for my
> python
> > developing purposes and like the potential it has
> alot
> > :).
> > 
> >   I was curious if you had the need for an
> experienced
> > java/python developer to help you out w/ pydev.
> I'd
> > like to work on code completion/code assist, auto
> > import, and some other things that the Java
> > perspective gives to Java programmers.
> 
> 
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[Pydev-code] Re: PyDev

[Aleks T. <at...@ya...>]

Hi Marshall,
sounds great, we always need more volunteer. Have you
checked out/compiled the latest source?

I am planning on putting out a release in 3 weeks. The
major new features will be:
Editor: hyperlinking. See editor's changes.txt for details.
Debugger: more or less fully functional one.
Code completion: Dana is working on it, he's got the
details.

There has been a lot of discussion about code completion.
Check out the archives, and talk to Dana about it.

I've added you to the pydev-code mailing list, so you can
start the discussion, and see what the others are doing.

As a warmup, it'd be nice if you implemented the include
paths settings for projects of a python nature. The stub
code is already there, it just needs the real widget, like
Java includes. See TODO inside ProjectProperties. This will
be needed for the browser/code completion, anything that
requires us to search for Python includes.

For chat, you can reach me on AIM:atotic

Aleks

--- Marshall Culpepper <mar...@ar...> wrote:
> Aleks..
> 
>   Hey, i've been using pydev off and on for my python
> developing purposes and like the potential it has alot
> :).
> 
>   I was curious if you had the need for an experienced
> java/python developer to help you out w/ pydev. I'd
> like to work on code completion/code assist, auto
> import, and some other things that the Java
> perspective gives to Java programmers.



	
		
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[Pydev-code] LAtest code dump

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

Hi,
I've just checked in a bunch of changes, mostly debugger. 
Debugger can now stop/pause a running program, and display its 
stack. It is kind ofd neat to see it in action, in its 
multithreaded glory.

Next step, displaying the variables.

This day was dedicated to figuring out the deadlock in thread 
debugging. The solution was to unregister my trace function 
before thread dies.

Any news over there? Jython integration? Have you looked at 
http://home.tiscali.be/redrobin/jython/

Aleks

Re: [Pydev-code] Another massive checkin

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

That's awesome. I was suspicious whether jython would be helpful 
beyond the parser. Looking forward to seeing how you've done it.

Aleks

Dana Moore wrote:
> Excellent.
> I am close(r) to checking in a fairly complete attempt at code
> completion. I have wrapped jython as a plugin  for our project and am
> using python itself to do the introspection of the edit buffer.
> There are a LOT of small implementation details to work out, but I am
> cruising along on it. UNtil then -- take a look at an actual screenshot
> as downpayment and proof that YES it can be done :-)

Re: [Pydev-code] Another massive checkin

[Dana M. <dan...@ya...>]

Excellent.
I am close(r) to checking in a fairly complete attempt at code
completion. I have wrapped jython as a plugin  for our project and am
using python itself to do the introspection of the edit buffer.
There are a LOT of small implementation details to work out, but I am
cruising along on it. UNtil then -- take a look at an actual screenshot
as downpayment and proof that YES it can be done :-)
--- Aleks Totic <a...@to...> wrote:
> This one is just for my sanity, I've done a lot of debugger work.
> 
> New stuff:
> pydev.editor: minor tweaks, see Changes.txt for details
> pydev.debug: a lot of work on the new debug model. The debugger 
> is not functional yet, but you can still run.
> 
> My next big milestone is step/resume for threads.
> 
> Aleks
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[Pydev-code] Another massive checkin

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

This one is just for my sanity, I've done a lot of debugger work.

New stuff:
pydev.editor: minor tweaks, see Changes.txt for details
pydev.debug: a lot of work on the new debug model. The debugger 
is not functional yet, but you can still run.

My next big milestone is step/resume for threads.

Aleks

Re: [Pydev-code] Re: pydev

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

No, I am just subclassing Bdb, instead of using jpydbg. The 
learning curve to learn & upgrade, or code from scratch was very 
similar for me, so I just decided to code it from scratch.

Aleks

Bill Wright wrote:
> Aleks,
> 
> Can you explain what you mean by "roll my own remote debugging protocol"?
> Would this capability require a modified python.exe then?
> 
> Bill

RE: [Pydev-code] Re: pydev

[Bill W. <ww...@bb...>]

Aleks,

Can you explain what you mean by "roll my own remote debugging protocol"?
Would this capability require a modified python.exe then?

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: pyd...@li...
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Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:34 PM
To: Ron Smith; pyd...@li...
Subject: [Pydev-code] Re: pydev


Ron Smith wrote:

> Thanks, that definetely helped.  I haven't done eclipse plug-in
> development before and was approaching it wrong.
> After exploring how to work with plugin projects
> more, It's building fine and I'm able to export the pydev feature
> and plug-ins, and install them into a fresh eclipse installation.
>
> I had to fix a small problem in PydevPlugin.java - it wasn't finding
> PyDevPluginResources.properties. I think someone else on the forums
> had the same problem.  I've attached the patch

Thanks. This has been a new addition to the tree by Dana, so I
was not aware that we have properties now.

> The editor seems to be working fine (I like the hyperlinking feature!).

The hyperlinking is working for a very limited set of possible
links right now. It is a great place to start if you'd like to
contribute some code.

The debugger is under heavy reconstruction right now. I've
decided to roll my own remote debugging protocol. I'll check
something in as soon as I get stop/suspend buttons running.

> Is there a .4 release planned in the near future (next week or so)?

Not next week, unless my progress really speeds up. I'd say there
will be one within a month. I'd really like to get a real
debugger in the next release (breakpoints/suspend/resume/variables).

> By the way, I noticed you worked on Mosaic.  Did you go to
> the U of I?  I graduated in 93.

Yes, I was there at Beckman & NCSA between 90 & 94.

> Thanks
> --Ron

Aleks


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[Pydev-code] Re: pydev

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

Ron Smith wrote:

> Thanks, that definetely helped.  I haven't done eclipse plug-in
> development before and was approaching it wrong.
> After exploring how to work with plugin projects
> more, It's building fine and I'm able to export the pydev feature
> and plug-ins, and install them into a fresh eclipse installation.
> 
> I had to fix a small problem in PydevPlugin.java - it wasn't finding
> PyDevPluginResources.properties. I think someone else on the forums
> had the same problem.  I've attached the patch

Thanks. This has been a new addition to the tree by Dana, so I 
was not aware that we have properties now.

> The editor seems to be working fine (I like the hyperlinking feature!).

The hyperlinking is working for a very limited set of possible 
links right now. It is a great place to start if you'd like to 
contribute some code.

The debugger is under heavy reconstruction right now. I've 
decided to roll my own remote debugging protocol. I'll check 
something in as soon as I get stop/suspend buttons running.

> Is there a .4 release planned in the near future (next week or so)?

Not next week, unless my progress really speeds up. I'd say there 
will be one within a month. I'd really like to get a real 
debugger in the next release (breakpoints/suspend/resume/variables).

> By the way, I noticed you worked on Mosaic.  Did you go to
> the U of I?  I graduated in 93.

Yes, I was there at Beckman & NCSA between 90 & 94.

> Thanks
> --Ron

Aleks

Re: [Pydev-code] Model/hyperlinking checkin

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

Dana Moore wrote:

> In addition, I have integrated Jython into the project (wrapping it as
> a plugin). I was intending to use this as a way of working with the
> native python introspection capability; 
> for example to be able to extend the potential completions for a
> statement that starts out
> ....sys.
> and offer all the completions for 'sys.'
> or all the normal potential completions for something defined in the
> module being editted.
> Integrating Jython was trivial, but I haven't checked it in as yet,
> since there still seem to be some execution pathing problems in using
> it.
> I have been intending to do some pairwise skull-sweating on this with
> Bill, but even though we are just down the hall from one another, we
> haven't been able to hook up for more than 2 minutes at a time.
> If we together can get this cracked on (say) Monday, then I will have
> something to demo/check in shortly thereafter.
> I am using the AST traverer now to get my document model, and that may
> be the first thing we check in. We will shift to the PyDictionary
> shortly though... first let's get a working autocompleter.

I've been thinking of integrating Jython. It would definitely be 
a good thing. Lets chat about how you are doing it before you 
check in.

PyDictionary is no more. Now it is the classes inside 
editor.model. I have utility functions to find function 
definitions for now, finding locals would be easy, they are 
already registered with Scope. Traversing AST was too 
hard/limiting for me.

Aleks

Re: [Pydev-code] Model/hyperlinking checkin

[Aleks T. <a...@to...>]

Bill Wright wrote:

> Aleks,
> 
> Dana and I have been pretty tied up getting ready for our JavaOne
> presentations, so this has been idle for a little bit.  But I did get your
> new code and the changes to the run configuration work fine.  There were a
> couple nice features that got lost, though.  The other PythonTab had
> "Browse..." buttons for the run directory and other configuration options so
> you didn't have to type in a nasty pathname if you didn't want.  It also
> error-checked the input and wouldn't try to run a script that didn't exist
> or run in a directory that didn't exist, etc.  I'll try to merge those
> features into the one-true-PythonTab when I get a chance.

Oops, I never use those functions so I did not miss them. It'd be 
great if you could merge them in.

> I tried to use the hyperlinking that you mentioned, but I guess I don't know
> how to activate it.  I have an interpreter configured (it's just "python"
> which seems to work ok for the run configuration since it's in my %PATH%).
> What should happen>  If I hit CTRL-SPACE I do see some rogues' names ;-)

Just press CTRL, like in the java editor, and mouse over. Lots of 
words will highlight, but only local function calls and simple 
imports will take you to their definition.

Aleks

RE: [Pydev-code] Model/hyperlinking checkin

[Dana M. <dan...@ya...>]

In addition, I have integrated Jython into the project (wrapping it as
a plugin). I was intending to use this as a way of working with the
native python introspection capability; 
for example to be able to extend the potential completions for a
statement that starts out
....sys.
and offer all the completions for 'sys.'
or all the normal potential completions for something defined in the
module being editted.
Integrating Jython was trivial, but I haven't checked it in as yet,
since there still seem to be some execution pathing problems in using
it.
I have been intending to do some pairwise skull-sweating on this with
Bill, but even though we are just down the hall from one another, we
haven't been able to hook up for more than 2 minutes at a time.
If we together can get this cracked on (say) Monday, then I will have
something to demo/check in shortly thereafter.
I am using the AST traverer now to get my document model, and that may
be the first thing we check in. We will shift to the PyDictionary
shortly though... first let's get a working autocompleter.


--Dana




	
		
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