On 2/16/06, Bill Baxter <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Fabio Zadrozny <email@example.com> wrote:This is a pretty great addition. How hard would it be to make it act more like a full-featured shell?
- New feature in the debugger: the console is available for probing when
in 'suspendend mode'
- have a promt so you can tell tell that it's waiting for your input,
Should not be so hard...
- respond after just one 'enter' instead of two,
The problem is that I have to pass the complete thing to the debugger
because it will do an exec in your code, so, if you want to define
You could not do, because the exec would pass right on the 'def
method1():', and you need it only after you defined the whole method...
That's so that you can do things like the below in the debugger:
d = D()
<__main__.D instance at 0x0A6D0E90>
I could still make an option to respond after a single-line, but then you'd not be able to do multi-line statements...
Anyway, I could do some more research to see if there's someway that
can make multi-line statements and keep the simplicity of single line
statements... Something as a buffer, that determines when it should
evaluate the whole thing... maybe as the real console, that detects
when it is a multiline and only then passes to the 'eval on new line'
- print out the value of variables by just typing the variable name (instead of having to type "print variable_name")
- cycle through your command history with keys like up/down-arrow or ctrl-up/down-arrow
I'll need to check if I can override the default Eclipse console used
for run... Probably hard though (I had to hack my way into Eclipse just
to be able to grab the input)...
- auto-completion of symbols
Same as the one before
it would be nice to just have something like pycrust right there in a
tab instead of "Console". Stani's Python Editor has pycrust
built-in like that, but unfortunately it's not connected in any way to
your executing program, so it's not so useful.
Well, I'll soon have a replacement for pycrust, to help you do
'quick-scripts' in a scrap-page... something as the java scrap-page,
but I'll have to see how to connect it to the debugger shell.
The ultimate debugger, based on debuggers I'm familiar with,
would be a hybrid of that in VisualStudio crossed with Matlab.
VisualStudio does variable and watches nicely. It's got a list
(several lists actually) like Eclipse's 'Expressions', but you can
double click to add a new expression or edit an expression.
Eclipse is pretty close there, just needs a more efficient way to edit
the expressions. The Matlab debugger, on the other hand,
completely lacks an expression list, but its best feature is that when
you hit a breakpoint, you just have your normal interactive shell
prompt there with all it's features, plus all your program's state
loaded in memory.
Well, I hope I'll get to there ;-)
This is an excellent debugging model for a
dynamic programming language in my opinion. If there's some error
on the current line, you can quickly try out a bunch of variations to
figure out what the proper expression is to get the result you want,
using the actual data from your program, without having to cook up a
stand-alone test case that creates data similar to what's in your
Agreed... but I'd probably do the stand-alone test-cases anyway ;-)