first of all thanks for the nice projekt and all the effort you put in it!
And now to my question. As i got ridiculous electronic skills, i wonder if it's possible to run pyDarts with this dartboard(CB 90): here
Here are some photos of its inside(connector A, B and an overview - sorry for the bad quality): here
So the inner-board has three connections, one to the "Buttons"-PBC and two to the main-PBC which are seperated, also the matrix seems to be 7x14. This again leaves me wondering if it's even possible to connct it to an arduino uno.
I hope i made my questions clear and that the photos help a bit ;)
Thanks for your time, greetings
neuna
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thanks for your answer and i'm looking forward for Diegos ;)
Here some further things which confuse me, please correct me if i got anything wrong.
Ok so if it realy is a 7x14 matrix it would need 21 In/Out Pins, the arduino uno has 19 (0-13 and A0-A5), but why would it use such a matrix? Also the buttons-PBC is connected with a simple 14slick. Is the buttons-PBC connected over the "innerdartplate" with the main-PBC as i can't see any other connection except for the powerline? If so, can i leave the slick which leaves to the buttons-PBC unconnected and just take the 7 and 14slicks to connect 7x10 of them to the arduino and add 4 buttons manualy - because 4 of the 14 then just seem to be for the buttons? Furthermore could i then take the main-PBC out completely? Man i got no clue :D
An other thing is, when i connect the 4 buttons with a single cable each to the arduino your scheme shows Wire A,B and C are connected to the same pin as some random ones (or has it to be specific ones?) from the slicks, but on the photo there's just one cable connected, did you connect them before anywhere esle or did i get the hole thing wrong?
As soon as i got all the required parts i'll start to try ;)
Last edit: neuna 2016-12-15
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If your suposition about the 7x10 is OK, you're definitly done !
You might even add one or two of the extra input of the slick to use the embeded buttons.
Regarding the inner motherboard, you can definitly get rid of it. The only reason I keep a part of it is to maintain the buttons in place and take benefit of the circuit to spare cables.
Regarding the buttons, there is no specific input for buttons since they exactly like the slicks, i.e. switchs ON/OFF. They could be considered exactly the same way. Every button A, B, and C has a single cable for each of them, and another cable which is common to all of them (keep considering buttons as a part of the matrix)
Somthing like this :
D
A ---|
B----|
C----|
If you start playing with the arduino, pushing buttons, closing gates, (use cu to see wich part of the arduino is closed), you will quickly understand how it works.
A matrix with a cooordonate for every part of the board, and every button.
Good luck !
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hello,
the 147 matrix seems very strange.
You should follow the line of the 14 to know where they are reaching.
I reckon few of them go to the top button of you dart board.
If it is that, you will have something like a 107 matrix.
just keep the right lines.
c u
diego*
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Ohohoh, I didnot check very well your pictures...
You can see on the picture 183208 at the bottom left, lines for the dart board buttons.
So, you have to select the good lines to build your matrix! and connect them to the arduino.
(keep and some of them for the buttons)
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thanks again for your help! So if i'm lucky and the 14x7 matrix of the two sliks to the main-PBC include the buttons(the single 14slick for 12 buttons at the bottom) already and if i just connect the right connections of the sliks, i.e. 12x7 (10x7 for the board and 2x7 for the buttons) it could already work?
In that i case i'd leave the buttons-PBC connected(it dosen't need to be powerd seperately or does it?) and take out the main-PBC and replace it with the arduino. Ofc not every button will work then, but it should be enough.
If this dosen't work i think i got it how to connect the buttons manualy, ty poilou!
I'll have a closer look at sunday and hopefully get to start trying next week.
Anyway, thanks and i'll let you know of the progress ;)
Last edit: neuna 2016-12-16
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Hi there,
first of all thanks for the nice projekt and all the effort you put in it!
And now to my question. As i got ridiculous electronic skills, i wonder if it's possible to run pyDarts with this dartboard(CB 90): here
Here are some photos of its inside(connector A, B and an overview - sorry for the bad quality): here
So the inner-board has three connections, one to the "Buttons"-PBC and two to the main-PBC which are seperated, also the matrix seems to be 7x14. This again leaves me wondering if it's even possible to connct it to an arduino uno.
I hope i made my questions clear and that the photos help a bit ;)
Thanks for your time, greetings
neuna
Very good question, Jan !
Diego will give you a more accurate answer, but I think arduino Uno has 20 analog input.
Unless you might use an extra numeric input (I don't know really), you won't be able to connect 21 inputs on the arduino.
But, for pydarts you only need 4 buttons. On this board, there is loads of buttons, maybe you could left some of them behind?
So... my answer is... Try, we'll see ;)
Last edit: poilou 2016-12-15
Hey poilou,
thanks for your answer and i'm looking forward for Diegos ;)
Here some further things which confuse me, please correct me if i got anything wrong.
Ok so if it realy is a 7x14 matrix it would need 21 In/Out Pins, the arduino uno has 19 (0-13 and A0-A5), but why would it use such a matrix? Also the buttons-PBC is connected with a simple 14slick. Is the buttons-PBC connected over the "innerdartplate" with the main-PBC as i can't see any other connection except for the powerline? If so, can i leave the slick which leaves to the buttons-PBC unconnected and just take the 7 and 14slicks to connect 7x10 of them to the arduino and add 4 buttons manualy - because 4 of the 14 then just seem to be for the buttons? Furthermore could i then take the main-PBC out completely? Man i got no clue :D
An other thing is, when i connect the 4 buttons with a single cable each to the arduino your scheme shows Wire A,B and C are connected to the same pin as some random ones (or has it to be specific ones?) from the slicks, but on the photo there's just one cable connected, did you connect them before anywhere esle or did i get the hole thing wrong?
As soon as i got all the required parts i'll start to try ;)
Last edit: neuna 2016-12-15
If your suposition about the 7x10 is OK, you're definitly done !
You might even add one or two of the extra input of the slick to use the embeded buttons.
Regarding the inner motherboard, you can definitly get rid of it. The only reason I keep a part of it is to maintain the buttons in place and take benefit of the circuit to spare cables.
Regarding the buttons, there is no specific input for buttons since they exactly like the slicks, i.e. switchs ON/OFF. They could be considered exactly the same way. Every button A, B, and C has a single cable for each of them, and another cable which is common to all of them (keep considering buttons as a part of the matrix)
Somthing like this :
A ---|
B----|
C----|
If you start playing with the arduino, pushing buttons, closing gates, (use cu to see wich part of the arduino is closed), you will quickly understand how it works.
A matrix with a cooordonate for every part of the board, and every button.
Good luck !
hello,
the 147 matrix seems very strange.
You should follow the line of the 14 to know where they are reaching.
I reckon few of them go to the top button of you dart board.
If it is that, you will have something like a 107 matrix.
just keep the right lines.
c u
diego*
meant 14x7 and 10x7 matrix...
if it is really 14x7, you will have to get a bigger arduino with more in/out pins...
Ohohoh, I didnot check very well your pictures...
You can see on the picture 183208 at the bottom left, lines for the dart board buttons.
So, you have to select the good lines to build your matrix! and connect them to the arduino.
(keep and some of them for the buttons)
Good morning together ;)
thanks again for your help! So if i'm lucky and the 14x7 matrix of the two sliks to the main-PBC include the buttons(the single 14slick for 12 buttons at the bottom) already and if i just connect the right connections of the sliks, i.e. 12x7 (10x7 for the board and 2x7 for the buttons) it could already work?
In that i case i'd leave the buttons-PBC connected(it dosen't need to be powerd seperately or does it?) and take out the main-PBC and replace it with the arduino. Ofc not every button will work then, but it should be enough.
If this dosen't work i think i got it how to connect the buttons manualy, ty poilou!
I'll have a closer look at sunday and hopefully get to start trying next week.
Anyway, thanks and i'll let you know of the progress ;)
Last edit: neuna 2016-12-16
connection like in the picture should work