From: Puneet S. <ps...@ch...> - 2007-04-20 12:49:55
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I am fine with both timings. Lyon time is 9 hours ahead of PDT. Please let me know the conf call number and such. Have a good time in Lyon, Pete. Eric Deutsch wrote: > > Hi everyone, here is a summary of discussion on the CV at today's call: > > At the end of the call, we discussed the possibility of having Trish > and Pete (who cannot attended Lyon) (and possibly others) be on a > conference call for selected times during the meeting, specifically > > - Monday 4:30p -- 6:00p Lyon time for full CV session > > - Tuesday 5:00p -- 6:00p Lyon time for final MS CV discussion > > Can this be arranged at the Lyon facilities? > > Terms that need debate: > > - msLevel - The term appears as Precursor Ion Scan (PSI:1000100), > Product Ion Scan (PSI:1000101) and Nth Generation Product Ion > (PSI:1000337). What term should we use for ms 4th, ms 5th and such? We > have to keep precursor ion and product ion. Terms such as daughter > ion and parent ion are deprecated. We still use Fragment ion though. > These are some additional related terms that I could find in the CV. > > Both mzXML and mzData had a "msLevel" **attribute**. The decision was > made to put msLevel as a CV term in dataXML. However, if we add > msLevel, it appears there would be some redundancy with existing terms > in the CV (as above). Decide how to proceed in Lyon. > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000364 > > name: Fragment Ion > > def: "A product ion resulting from the dissociation of a precursor > ion." [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000365 ! Ion > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000344 > > name: Progeny Ion > > def: "A charged product of a series of consecutive reactions that > includes product ions, 1st generation product ions, 2nd generation > product ions, etc. Given the sequential fragmentation scheme: M1+ ? > M2+ ? M3+ ? M4+ ? M5+ M4+ is the precursor ion of M5+, a 1st > generation product ion of M3+, a 2nd generation product ion of M2+ and > a 3rd generation product ion of M1+. " [PSI:GPS] > > exact_synonym: "Progeny Fragment Ion" [] > > is_a: PSI:1000365 ! Ion > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000342 > > name: Product Ion > > def: "An ion formed as the product of a reaction involving a > particular precursor ion. The reaction can unimolecular dissociation, > an ion/molecule reaction, or involve simply a change in the number of > charges. The terms daughter ion and parent ion are not recommended." > [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000365 ! Ion > > > > - mzRangeStart, mzRangeStop > > According to Eric it would be useful to have a start and stop rather > than a single mass range which can be confusing. I think we need all > three terms: mass range, mzRangeStart and mzRangeStop. Is there anyway > to do that? > > Keep them as attributes instead? Discuss more in Lyon. Both previous > formats had them as separate attributes, not CV terms. > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000313 > > name: Mass Range > > def: "The limit of m/z over which a mass spectrometer can detect > ions." [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000444 ! m/z Separation Method > > > - I dont know what is this term for?: > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000104 > > name: None > > def: "None." [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000021 ! Reflectron State > > History of this term unknown. Maybe Randy knows? Eric will ask him. > > - Instrument Name > > i think Instrument name is same as model because Instrument's model > name is everything but the Vendor's name. Also, each instrument will > be defined, such as LTQ-FT LTQ Orbitrap. The definition of each model > would contain the vendor name. That means we are keeping Model as it > is and Instrument Name will not be used? > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000463 > > name: Instrument > > def: "Device which performs a measurement." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000031 > > name: Model > > def: "Instrument's model name (everything but the vendor's name)" > [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:1000454 ! Instrument Additional Description > > Use the term "InstrumentModel" and not "InstrumentName" or "Model" > > Maybe make new term "InstrumentModel" and deprecate "Model" and will > not use "InstrumentName" > > Bring up in Lyon, to find out what the recommendation is for tidying > up the ontology. > > - Should we replace all ThermoFinnigan with Thermo Fisher Scientific > because the company name has changed? > > Create a new vendor term "Thermo Fisher Scientific" instead of > renaming previous one. The vendor for many existing years-old mass > specs was ThermoFinnigan at the time. Maybe putting a date range in > the definitions would be helpful? > > - LowestMzValue - Is this within a spectrum or within a experiment. A > clear definition is needed. > > - HighestMzValue - Again what is the reference for this term. I have > to know what is it for in order to get a clear > definintion. > > Lowest and highest observed values in a spectrum. Used by some > software instead of opening up all spectra. > > - Scan Type - "Dictates the type of scan used to generate the > spectrum. Usually refers to the range but can also include linked, > precursor, product and neutral mass loss types of scan." > > What is the difference between Scan Type and Scan Mode? > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000036 > > name: Scan Mode > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > is_obsolete: true > > Pete will research this more and report back. > > Try to get Trish and Pete to the Monday 4:30 -- 6:00, and maybe > Tuesday 5:00 -- 6:00p > > Lyon is currently GMT+2 > > Encourage vendors to enter items via the term tracker including > definitions > > Eric will email Pierre-Alain and others about joining in on Monday, > Tuesday > > Terms to be added: > > > - We need to add: LCQ Deca and LCQ Deca XP. Others are there. > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000169 > > name: LCQ Deca XP Plus > > def: "ThermoFinnigan LCQ Deca XP Plus MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000168 > > name: LCQ Classic > > def: "ThermoFinnigan LCQ Classic MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000167 > > name: LCQ Advantage > > def: "ThermoFinnigan LCQ Advantage MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > > - Add InstrumentSerialNumber as a term. We are not using > InstrumentIdentifier because serial number is unique. > > Okay. > > - Add -FileFormatConversion as a term. > > Used, e.g., to describe how ReAdW converts RAW to dataXML > > - MaldiSpotIdentifier - sample spot, analyte spot or MALDIspot would > be a better term. > > > Terms whose definitions needs to be updated: > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000441 > > name: Scan > > def: "A function of the mass spectrometer in which it employs the mass > analyzer to generate the mass spectrum of a range of ions or a > specific ion" [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000036 > > name: Scan Mode > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > is_obsolete: true > > -DataArrayContentType > > > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000139 > > name: 4000 Q TRAP > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX Q 4000 TRAP MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000140 > > name: 4700 Proteomic Analyzer > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX 4700 Proteomic Analyzer MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000141 > > name: APEX IV > > def: "Bruker Daltonics APEX IV MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000142 > > name: APEX-Q > > def: "Bruker Daltonics APEX-Q MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000143 > > name: API 150EX > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX API 150EX MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000144 > > name: API 150EX Prep > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX API 150EX Prep MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000145 > > name: API 2000 > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX API 2000 MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000146 > > name: API 3000 > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX API 3000 MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000147 > > name: API 4000 > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX API 4000 MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000148 > > name: autoFlex II > > def: "Bruker Daltonics autoFlex II MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000149 > > name: autoFlex TOF/TOF > > def: "Bruker Daltonics autoFlex TOF/TOF MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000150 > > name: Auto Spec Ultima NT > > def: "Waters AutoSpec Ultima NT MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000151 > > name: Bio TOF II > > def: "Bruker Daltonics BioTOF II MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000152 > > name: Bio TOF Q > > def: "Bruker Daltonics BioTOF Q MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000153 > > name: DELTA plusAdvantage > > def: "ThermoFinnigan DELTAplusAdvantage MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000154 > > name: DELTAplusXP > > def: "ThermoFinnigan DELTAplusXP MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000155 > > name: ELEMENT2 > > def: "ThermoFinnigan ELEMENT2 MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000156 > > name: esquire4000 > > def: "Bruker Daltonics esquire4000 MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000157 > > name: esquire6000 > > def: "Bruker Daltonics esquire6000 MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000158 > > name: Explorer > > def: "IonSpec Explorer MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000159 > > name: GCT > > def: "Waters GCT MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000160 > > name: HCT > > def: "Bruker Daltonics HCT MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000161 > > name: HCT Plus > > def: "Bruker Daltonics HCTPlus MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000162 > > name: HiRes ESI > > def: "IonSpec HiResESI MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000163 > > name: HiRes MALDI > > def: "IonSpec HiResMALDI MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000164 > > name: IsoPrime > > def: "Waters IsoPrime MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000165 > > name: IsoProbe > > def: "Waters IsoProbe MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000166 > > name: IsoProbe T > > def: "Waters IsoProbe T MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000167 > > name: LCQ Advantage > > def: "ThermoFinnigan LCQ Advantage MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000168 > > name: LCQ Classic > > def: "ThermoFinnigan LCQ Classic MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000169 > > name: LCQ Deca XP Plus > > def: "ThermoFinnigan LCQ Deca XP Plus MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000170 > > name: M@LDI L > > def: "Waters M@LDI L MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000171 > > name: M@LDI LR > > def: "Waters M@LDI LR MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000172 > > name: MAT253 > > def: "ThermoFinnigan MAT253 MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000173 > > name: MAT900XP > > def: "ThermoFinnigan MAT900XP MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000174 > > name: MAT900XP Trap > > def: "ThermoFinnigan MAT900XP Trap MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000175 > > name: MAT95XP > > def: "ThermoFinnigan MAT95XP MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000176 > > name: MAT95XP Trap > > def: "ThermoFinnigan MAT95XP Trap MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000177 > > name: microFlex > > def: "Bruker Daltonics microFlex MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000178 > > name: microTOFLC > > def: "Bruker Daltonics microTOFLC MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000179 > > name: Neptune > > def: "ThermoFinnigan NEPTUNE MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000180 > > name: NG-5400 > > def: "Waters NG-5400 MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000181 > > name: OMEGA > > def: "IonSpec OMEGA MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000182 > > name: OMEGA-2001 > > def: "IonSpec OMEGA-2001 MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000183 > > name: OmniFlex > > def: "Bruker Daltonics OminFlex MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000184 > > name: Platform ICP > > def: "Waters Platform ICP MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000185 > > name: PolarisQ > > def: "ThermoFinnigan PolarisQ MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000186 > > name: Proteomics Solution 1 > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX Proteomics Solution 1 MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000187 > > name: Q TRAP > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX Q TRAP MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000188 > > name: Q-Tof micro > > def: "Waters Q-Tof micro MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000189 > > name: Q-Tof Ultima > > def: "Waters Q-Tof Ultima MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000190 > > name: QSTAR > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX QSTAR MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000191 > > name: Quattro micro > > def: "Waters Quattro micro MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000192 > > name: Quattro UItima > > def: "Waters Quattro Uitima MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000193 > > name: Surveyor MSQ > > def: "ThermoFinnigan Surveyor MSQ MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000194 > > name: SymBiot I > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX SymBiot I MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000195 > > name: SymBiot XVI > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX SymBiot XVI MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000196 > > name: TEMPUS TOF > > def: "ThermoFinnigan TEMPUS TOF MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000197 > > name: TRACE DSQ > > def: "ThermoFinnigan TRACE DSQ MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000198 > > name: TRITON > > def: "ThermoFinnigan TRITON MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000199 > > name: TSQ QUANTUM > > def: "ThermoFinnigan TSQ QUANTUM MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000200 > > name: Ultima > > def: "IonSpec Ultima MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000201 > > name: ultraFlex > > def: "Bruker Daltonics ultraFlex MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000202 > > name: ultraFlex TOF/TOF > > def: "Bruker Daltonics ultraFlex TOF/TOF MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000203 > > name: Voyager-DE PRO > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX Voyager-DE PRO MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000204 > > name: Voyager-DE STR > > def: "Applied Biosystems/MDS SCIEX Voyager-DE STR MS" [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000031 ! Model > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000441 > > name: Scan > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000442 > > name: Spectrum > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000443 > > name: Mass Analyzer > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000444 > > name: m/z Separation Method > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000445 > > name: Sequential m/z Separation Method > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000036 > > name: Scan Mode > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > is_obsolete: true > > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000127 > > name: Centroid Mass Spectrum > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000035 ! Peak Processing > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000128 > > name: Continuum Mass Spectrum > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000035 ! Peak Processing > > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000131 > > name: Number Of Counts > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000043 ! Intensity Unit > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000132 > > name: Percent Of Base Peak > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000043 ! Intensity Unit > > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000138 > > name: Percent > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > is_a: PSI:1000046 ! Energy Unit > > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000441 > > name: Scan > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000442 > > name: Spectrum > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000443 > > name: Mass Analyzer > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000444 > > name: m/z Separation Method > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > [Term] > > id: PSI:1000445 > > name: Sequential m/z Separation Method > > def: "TODO: Add definition." [PSI:GPS] > > relationship: part_of PSI:0000000 ! mzOntology > > > > Terms we decided not to add: > > > - AnalyteIdentifier - same as Sample Name (PSI:1000002), and/or Sample > > Number (PSI:1000001) > > - BasePeakMz - same as Base Peak, PSI:1000210 > > > - InstrumentIdentifier. Same as InstrumentSerialNumber. > > > _____________________________________________ > *From:* Eric Deutsch > *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2007 8:05 PM > *To:* 'Pierre-Alain Binz'; 'Trish Whetzel'; 'Puneet Souda'; > 'psi...@li...' > *Cc:* Eric Deutsch > *Subject:* RE: PSI-MS WG ccall Tue 9am PDT, 12n EDT, 4pm GMT > > Hi everyone, this is a reminder of the conference call Tuesday, 9am > PDT, 12n EDT, 4pm GMT. Agenda items are: > > - Review recent work on the CV (see attached list of items to discuss > from Pete) > > - Discuss required preparation for next week > > << File: PSI_TermsReview_Merge.txt >> > > MS-WG ccall Tuesday, 9am PDT, 12n EDT, 4pm GMT > > - Phone numbers: > > + Germany: 08001012079 > > + Switzerland: 0800000860 > > + UK: 08081095644 > > + USA: 1-866-314-3683 > > + Generic international: +44 2083222500 (UK number) > > access code: 297427 > > Thanks, > > Eric > > _____________________________________________ > *From:* Eric Deutsch > *Sent:* Monday, April 09, 2007 1:07 AM > *To:* 'Pierre-Alain Binz'; Trish Whetzel; Puneet Souda; Kent Laursen; > psi...@li... > *Cc:* Eric Deutsch > *Subject:* PSI-MS WG ccall Tue 9am PDT, 12n EDT, 4pm GMT > > Hi everyone, here is a summary of the issues before us regarding > dataXML. Please read it over and let's discuss at the conference call > on Tuesday. Call information: > > MS-WG ccall Tuesday, 9am PDT, 12n EDT, 4pm GMT > > - Phone numbers: > > + Germany: 08001012079 > > + Switzerland: 0800000860 > > + UK: 08081095644 > > + USA: 18663143683 > > + Generic international: +44 2083222500 (UK number) > > access code: 297427 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Open issues with dataXML > > - Need documentation of each element and attribute > > Mike Coleman 2007-02-06 > > Agreed. Does Kent have some start of documentation from > current/previous XMLSpy docs? > > Eric will contact Kent directly > > - Need more specifics on the desired numerical formats (e.g., IEEE, etc.) > > Mike Coleman 2007-02-06 > > To be discussed in Lyon > > - Should there be "count" attributes? > > Frederik Levander 2007-02-06 > > This is useful for some parsers. Probably leave in place. Discuss in > Lyon > > - Should file index be within the file or in a separate file? > > Frederik Levander 2007-02-06 > > The implementation of dataXML to be presented at Lyon will include > this information in the same file. Further discussion deferred to the > Lyon meeting The question was there: Should the file name / checksum > information be held in a separate file? > > - Encoded filename should be element content instead of an attribute, > so that CDATA could be used > > Alex Masselot 2007-02-07 > > To be discussed in Lyon > > - Should controlled vocabulary term values also be element content > instead of attribute so that CDATA could be used? > > Alex Masselot 2007-02-07 > > To be discussed in Lyon > > - How will we handle multiple charges for parent peak, and > fragmentation peaks? > > Alex Masselot 2007-02-07 > > This is already handled -- mutliple cvParams of the same type can be > used to annotate one peak / spectrum. > > - How can we allow two cv terms to be linked, such as concept with > value and the associated units (a separate cv term). (e.g. "collision > energy"=35.0 & "energy units"="joules") > > Phil Jones 2007-02-27 (followup by Angel and Kent 02-28) > > Phil to post to list for further responses > > Phil suggested 2 possibilities: <annotation> and additional attributes > > Angel suggested doing the FuGE way. Maybe overkill? Difficult for > software to handle? > > Do we really need having both or could we encode the units within the > terms, e.g. "collision energy in joules" > > Most other relevant CVs don't seem to encode units as part of the term > > Defer this to Lyon? Try to include the CV folks in a conference call > during meeting > > Do we need to have specific types of relationships between linked > terms, like "has_units"? > > - People still wrinkle their nose when hearing the "dataXML" name. We > have a suggestion on the floor to rename to "mzDataXML". Comments? > > - Make sure dataXML web site is up to date as can be > > - DONE Add link to XMLSpy-generated documentation at: > > > _http://gelbank.anl.gov/schema/documentations/dataXML0.11/dataXML0.11.html_ > > - Get the indexing wrapper schema working properly > > Jayson Falkner 2006-11-15 > > - Make sure that Karl Klauser is invited to be involved > > Eric will send email. > > - Do we support properly the spectrum "library" use case? > > Karl Klauser 2007-01-18 > > dataXML is supposed to be for MS instrument raw data, not > interpreted data, i.e. with assignments. That is what analysisXML is > intended for. > > Still open questions here. If analysisXML doesn't includes spectra, > this would be tricky. > > - Examine the mapping with MIAPE. Do we support everything MIAPE requires? > > Pierre-Alain Binz 2007-03-30 > > This will be addressed in Lyon > > - Revisit the chromatogram use case and develop a good example > > > Controlled Vocabulary Issues: > > Trish sent out a new version of the CV this morning. > > New terms from Dave Horn added > > Will start keeping and posting release notes > > Pete should start working on this new version now > > Pete, Trish, and I will iterate on CV a little and there will be > another ccall in 1 week exactly to discuss further > > We should post the OBO file soon on OBO. > > We will meet again in a week roughly, but Pete can't do next Tue 9am > > - DONE. Add hyperlink to the current CV on the web site > > _http://psidev.sourceforge.net/ms/xml/mzdata/psi-ms-cv-latest.obo_ > > - Should we change the ontology namespace to PSI-MS? > > Trish Whetzel 2007-03-27 > > Was suggested in Washington already and we decided no? > > - What is the overlap/division between the PSI-MS CV, the main PSI CV, > OBI? > > Trish Whetzel, Luisa Montecchi 2007-03-30 > > To be sorted out in a special working session in Lyon? > > - Should we even have an InstrumentIdentifier (local to lab) term at all? > > Trish Whetzel 2007-03-19 > > - What is required from vendors? > > Pierre-Alain 2007-04-03 > > - How do we deal with the common PSI CV? > > Pierre-Alain 2007-04-03 > > - What is the overlap with OBO ontology "ProPreo"? > > ProPreo: A comprehensive proteomics data and process provenance ontology > > _http://lsdis.cs.uga.edu/projects/glycomics/propreo/_ > > Eric Deutsch 2007-04-03 > > Trish says there was a quick review of this ~ 8 months ago > > ProPreo is broader but not deep enough > > - Try to reconcile the latest instance document and the current PSI > ontology: > > Trish Whetzel 2007-03-30 > > Eric Deutsch responded 2007-04-03 > > (full exchange not repro'ed here) > > Pete or someone trying to resolve based on discussion thus far and > identify unresolved? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. 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