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Re: [Psidev-ms-dev] userParam attributes
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From: Fredrik L. <Fre...@im...> - 2008-04-30 14:41:38
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Hi Eric and Others with User Param interest, <br>
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The 'type' attribute is clearly a bit confusing, I thought of it like
the 'category' you've been discussing.<br>
The user params are useful for capturing information instead of just
throwing it away, so I think they should be rather free form since
these parameters will probably not be used by software. For example,
when converting files from ProteinLynx Global Server to mzML we've
used the userParams to capture software settings that one would like
to keep, but where there is no perfectly matching CV term:<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace" size="-2"><dataProcessing
id="PLGS_processing" softwareRef="PLGS"><br>
<processingMethod order="1"><br>
<userParam name="Level 0 BACKGROUND_SUBTRACT BELOW_CURVE"
type="data processing action" value="35.0"/><br>
<userParam name="Level 0 BACKGROUND_SUBTRACT
POLYNOMIAL_ORDER" type="data processing action" value="5"/><br>
<userParam name="Level 0 BACKGROUND_SUBTRACT TYPE"
type="data processing action" value="Adaptive"/><br>
</font>,etc.<br>
<br>
And similarily for multiple dta to mzML conversion:<br>
<tt><font size="-2"> <dataProcessing id="Bioworks_processing"
softwareRef="Bioworks"><br>
<processingMethod order="1"><br>
<userParam name="group scan" type="data processing
parameter" value="100"/><br>
<userParam name="min group count" type="data processing
parameter" value="1"/><br>
<userParam name="min ion threshold" type="data processing
parameter" value="15"/><br>
<userParam name="intensity threshold" type="data
processing parameter" value="5000"/><br>
<userParam name="precursor tolerance" type="data
processing parameter" value="1.4000 amu"/></font></tt><br>
,etc.<br>
Note that the last parameter here also has a unit in the value field<span
class="moz-smiley-s1"><span> :-) </span></span>.<br>
It would look better to have a separate unit attribute (or multiple
with cv accession etc), but it should definitely be optional.<br>
If 'type' means 'dataType', I would like to have it as optional too,
since it can be hard to determine whether a setting is xs:integer or
xs:float for example (no one would be happy to see xs:string
everywhere, even if it is always correct).<br>
<br>
I have no clear opinion on this one, in the examples above the
type(category) attributes could be left out without much loss, but I
think they make the parameters slightly more accessible.<br>
I can't think of a user param without value, only if the value is
included in the name:<br>
<tt><font size="-2"><userParam name="group scan=100"/></font></tt><br>
<br>
Actually, to add more confusion:<br>
It would also be possible to switch the 'name' and 'type' attributes in
the above examples: <br>
<tt><font size="-2"><userParam name="</font></tt><tt><font size="-2">data
processing parameter" </font></tt><tt><font size="-2">type="</font></tt><tt><font
size="-2">group scan"</font></tt><tt><font size="-2"> value="100"/></font></tt><br>
<br>
Opinions on this?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
Fredrik<br>
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<br>
Eric Deutsch skrev:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hi everyone,
my own summary and thoughts
on the userParam issue:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">My first
question is: what are these
userParams supposed to look like anyway? There don’t seem to be any
good
examples of use of this (except for something about cats, which I don’t
understand). We should definitely fix that and get some example
userParams in
the example docs. I always thought userParam was supposed to look like
this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><userParam
name=”ReAdW quality score”
value=”0.94” type=”xs:float”><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">What would
be a good example of a userParam
without a value?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><userParam
name=”rejected”><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">? I kind of
like the idea of requiring a
value and a type. Seems like we’d get more useful userParams. We argued
for
quite a while about whether to include a “category” like thing in
cvParam, and
concluded “no” because it is implicit in the CV. For a userParam, there
is no CV,
and so it seems natural to use the name attribute as a kind of
category, which
is then qualified by the value. Instead of the above, I’d rather see:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><userParam
name=”MSFilter spectrum inclusion
flag” value=”rejected” type=”xs:string”><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Regarding
adding optional units, I like
the idea. We want something like:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><userParam
name=”LTQ cycle delay time”
value=”0.00012” type=”xs:float” unitAccession="MS:1000038"
unitName="minute"/><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">? (adjusted
by the impending change to the
unit ontology)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Maybe I’m
confused because type doesn’t
mean datatype, but rather category?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">We need
quality examples!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:psi...@li...">psi...@li...</a>
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style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Darren Kessner<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, April
28, 2008 8:47
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mass spectrometry
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Psidev-ms-dev]
Update from the PSI meeting</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">I think it's a good idea to add a units
attribute to CVParam --
actually, I just noticed it was missing on Sunday when I was working on
the
latest example file. I agree that everything other than "name"
should be optional.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">Regarding data type -- I believe Lennart was
finalizing how it will be
encoded in the terms in the OBO file, but there wasn't much discussion
about
how it will be validated. It seems that data types could be validated
during semantic validation though. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">In pwiz I'm planning to use the type info to
validate casts at compile
time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 12pt;">On Apr 28, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Randy Julian
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
don’t see why the
value is a required attribute. The idea of userParam is that it is
just
like cvParam, expect the names and values are uncontrolled.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
think we need the
units in the userParam too. This raises the question of data type in
both
elements.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font color="black"><span
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">In
userParam we have
a data type field explicitly:<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; font-size: 12pt; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <span
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style=""><</span></span></font><font color="maroon"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: maroon; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">xs:attribute</span></span></font><span
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style=""> </span></span></font></span><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">name</span></font><font
color="blue"><span
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style="">="</span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">name</span></span></font><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
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style=""> </span></span></font></span><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">type</span></font><font
color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">="</span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">xs:string</span></span></font><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">"</span></span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><font
color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""> </span></span></font></span><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">use</span></font><font
color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">="</span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">required</span></span></font><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">"/></span></span></font><font color="black"><span
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style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; font-size: 12pt; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></p>
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style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""><</span></span></font><font color="maroon"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: maroon; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">xs:attribute</span></span></font><span
class="apple-converted-space"><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""> </span></span></font></span><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">name</span></font><font
color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">="</span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">type</span></span></font><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">"</span></span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><font
color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""> </span></span></font></span><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">type</span></font><font
color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">="</span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">xs:string</span></span></font><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">"
/></span></span></font><font color="black"><span
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size="3"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; font-size: 12pt; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></p>
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style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""><</span></span></font><font color="maroon"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: maroon; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">xs:attribute</span></span></font><span
class="apple-converted-space"><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""> </span></span></font></span><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">name</span></font><font
color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">="</span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">value</span></span></font><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">"</span></span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><font
color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""> </span></span></font></span><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">type</span></font><font
color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">="</span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">xs:string</span></span></font><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">"
/></span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: black;"><u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></font>
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size="3"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; font-size: 12pt; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"> <span
class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font></p>
</span><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""><</span></span></font><font color="maroon"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: maroon; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">xs:attribute</span></span></font><span
class="apple-converted-space"><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""> </span></span></font></span><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">name</span></font><font
color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">="</span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">unitName</span></span></font><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">"</span></span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><font
color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""> </span></span></font></span><font color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;">type</span></font><font
color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">="</span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: black; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">xs:string</span></span></font><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">"</span></span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><font
color="red"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: red; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style=""> </span></span></font></span><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">/></span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: black;"><u1:p></u1:p></span><o:p></o:p></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Times New Roman"
size="3"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; font-size: 12pt; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"></</span></font></p>
</span><font color="maroon"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: maroon; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">xs:complexType</span></span></font><font color="blue"><span
style="background: white none repeat scroll 0%; color: blue; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;"><span
style="">></span></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: black;"><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Is
everyone OK with
adding unitName to the userParam as an optional attribute, and changing
the
other attributes (except name) to optional?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Also,
I must have
missed the data type discussion – are we adding something somewhere for
data
type validation?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font color="black"><span
style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Randy<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color: black;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font></p>
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