ps2hacking-devel

[ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[John T. <jth...@ha...>]

Damn it, I joined this list thinking there was really people who wanted
linux on there PS/2. Who is running this list?

John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
Editor in Chief
Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com

Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[<hw...@sy...>]

John Thornton misspelled :
    From: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>
    To: <ps2...@li...>
    Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:26 PM
    Subject: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?
    > Damn it, I joined this list thinking there was really people who
wanted
    > linux on there PS/2. Who is running this list?

Trolling, trolling trolling !
Notice that the list isn't called "PS2Linux-devel" ?
You're always welcome to start one ;) I'd be happy to join!

However, this list isn't entirely dedicated to running Linux on PS2...

Much if it is concerned with developing and running
cross tools (and dicussing programming techniques)
hosted on standard wintel platform Linux - much more
useful than focusing on those very few that have access
to PS2 Linux. Though PS2 linux is useful for investigation
and prototyping, it is not a desirable target for mass
applications or games. The tools that have been deveoped
by prominent list members allow a PC USB link to a PS2 to be
used for program download and debugging - a HUGE step
forward from the compile-burn-repeat cycle developed before
by those same people;)

With the release of a revamped PS2 Linux for US machines,
(soon!) and the standalone hard drive kit coupled with
a supported USB-nic, many more people will be able to
use native MIPS Linux on "there"/their PS2s, using the commercial
kit or homebrew variations. Review the list histories and
you will find much useful information of pS2 Linux
as well as valuable links. Please spend some time become
complaining;)

Regards;
Heinz

Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[John T. <jth...@ha...>]

Ok, lets get loud until we need a moderator.

I would like to introduce myself. My name is John Thornton I'm a unemployed
network administrator by day and a small independent magazine called
Hacker's Digest by night. I'm in the U.S.A. If you are reading this email
let me know and tell me where you are from.

I have one goal as of now, to have Linux on my ps2. Why? So I can exploit
it. Sony is a huge supporter of the DMCA and I want to do anything to hack
my ps2.

So my first question is, where do I get started. The information on getting
this going is just about null. I found this site by luck and I can see why
its so damn quite.

It seems to me getting Linux running on a ps2 in the U.S.A. is really on
hold if/until Sony feels like it. So if anyone is reading this, take the
time out and go to.
http://www.ps2linux.scea.com/interest_form.shtml
And
http://www.fakeroot.net/ps2linux/index.php3.en - Petition for the public
Release of Linux for the PlayStation2
- Til reach to 10,000 - the total number of signatures is now 8,940, only
1,060 remained til 10,000.

One of the other sites I have run across is
http://www.runix.ru/pages_en/Downloads/Our_collection/. They have a "Linux
kernel for Playstation 2 alpha 1 - Archive Linux kernel for Playstation 2
alpha 1. (Added: 30-Oct-2001 Hits: 1047 Rating: 5.46 Votes: 13) Rate It ".
Has anyone gotten Linux to run this way?

>The tools that have been developed
> by prominent list members allow a PC USB link to a PS2 to be
> used for program download and debugging - a HUGE step
> forward from the compile-burn-repeat cycle developed before
> by those same people;)

Where can I find information on this? I seem to come up with nothing on
google, has this been done in Japan? or some where else.

John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
Editor in Chief
Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com













----- Original Message -----
From: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>
To: <ps2...@li...>
Cc: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?


> John Thornton misspelled :
>     From: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>
>     To: <ps2...@li...>
>     Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:26 PM
>     Subject: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?
>     > Damn it, I joined this list thinking there was really people who
> wanted
>     > linux on there PS/2. Who is running this list?
>
> Trolling, trolling trolling !
> Notice that the list isn't called "PS2Linux-devel" ?
> You're always welcome to start one ;) I'd be happy to join!
>
> However, this list isn't entirely dedicated to running Linux on PS2...
>
> Much if it is concerned with developing and running
> cross tools (and dicussing programming techniques)
> hosted on standard wintel platform Linux - much more
> useful than focusing on those very few that have access
> to PS2 Linux. Though PS2 linux is useful for investigation
> and prototyping, it is not a desirable target for mass
> applications or games. The tools that have been deveoped
> by prominent list members allow a PC USB link to a PS2 to be
> used for program download and debugging - a HUGE step
> forward from the compile-burn-repeat cycle developed before
> by those same people;)
>
> With the release of a revamped PS2 Linux for US machines,
> (soon!) and the standalone hard drive kit coupled with
> a supported USB-nic, many more people will be able to
> use native MIPS Linux on "there"/their PS2s, using the commercial
> kit or homebrew variations. Review the list histories and
> you will find much useful information of pS2 Linux
> as well as valuable links. Please spend some time become
> complaining;)
>
> Regards;
> Heinz
>

Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[Tori H. <tor...@ya...>]

John--

I strongly suggest you wait until Sony releases the US
PS2 Linux.  It comes with online documentation
explaining every programmable componenets in PS2, CPU,
VPU, MPU, Controller ports, Controllers, demo programs
with source codes, etc.  I do currently running a
linux on my PS2 and that's how I know.  I've been
hearing that US linux will be release very soon. 
Please wait.

sincerely

--- John Thornton <jth...@ha...> wrote:
> Ok, lets get loud until we need a moderator.
> 
> I would like to introduce myself. My name is John
> Thornton I'm a unemployed
> network administrator by day and a small independent
> magazine called
> Hacker's Digest by night. I'm in the U.S.A. If you
> are reading this email
> let me know and tell me where you are from.
> 
> I have one goal as of now, to have Linux on my ps2.
> Why? So I can exploit
> it. Sony is a huge supporter of the DMCA and I want
> to do anything to hack
> my ps2.
> 
> So my first question is, where do I get started. The
> information on getting
> this going is just about null. I found this site by
> luck and I can see why
> its so damn quite.
> 
> It seems to me getting Linux running on a ps2 in the
> U.S.A. is really on
> hold if/until Sony feels like it. So if anyone is
> reading this, take the
> time out and go to.
> http://www.ps2linux.scea.com/interest_form.shtml
> And
> http://www.fakeroot.net/ps2linux/index.php3.en -
> Petition for the public
> Release of Linux for the PlayStation2
> - Til reach to 10,000 - the total number of
> signatures is now 8,940, only
> 1,060 remained til 10,000.
> 
> One of the other sites I have run across is
>
http://www.runix.ru/pages_en/Downloads/Our_collection/.
> They have a "Linux
> kernel for Playstation 2 alpha 1 - Archive Linux
> kernel for Playstation 2
> alpha 1. (Added: 30-Oct-2001 Hits: 1047 Rating: 5.46
> Votes: 13) Rate It ".
> Has anyone gotten Linux to run this way?
> 
> >The tools that have been developed
> > by prominent list members allow a PC USB link to a
> PS2 to be
> > used for program download and debugging - a HUGE
> step
> > forward from the compile-burn-repeat cycle
> developed before
> > by those same people;)
> 
> Where can I find information on this? I seem to come
> up with nothing on
> google, has this been done in Japan? or some where
> else.
> 
> John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> Editor in Chief
> Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>
> To: <ps2...@li...>
> Cc: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this
> show?
> 
> 
> > John Thornton misspelled :
> >     From: "John Thornton"
> <jth...@ha...>
> >     To: <ps2...@li...>
> >     Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:26 PM
> >     Subject: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running
> this show?
> >     > Damn it, I joined this list thinking there
> was really people who
> > wanted
> >     > linux on there PS/2. Who is running this
> list?
> >
> > Trolling, trolling trolling !
> > Notice that the list isn't called "PS2Linux-devel"
> ?
> > You're always welcome to start one ;) I'd be happy
> to join!
> >
> > However, this list isn't entirely dedicated to
> running Linux on PS2...
> >
> > Much if it is concerned with developing and
> running
> > cross tools (and dicussing programming techniques)
> > hosted on standard wintel platform Linux - much
> more
> > useful than focusing on those very few that have
> access
> > to PS2 Linux. Though PS2 linux is useful for
> investigation
> > and prototyping, it is not a desirable target for
> mass
> > applications or games. The tools that have been
> deveoped
> > by prominent list members allow a PC USB link to a
> PS2 to be
> > used for program download and debugging - a HUGE
> step
> > forward from the compile-burn-repeat cycle
> developed before
> > by those same people;)
> >
> > With the release of a revamped PS2 Linux for US
> machines,
> > (soon!) and the standalone hard drive kit coupled
> with
> > a supported USB-nic, many more people will be able
> to
> > use native MIPS Linux on "there"/their PS2s, using
> the commercial
> > kit or homebrew variations. Review the list
> histories and
> > you will find much useful information of pS2 Linux
> > as well as valuable links. Please spend some time
> become
> > complaining;)
> >
> > Regards;
> > Heinz
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> ps2...@li...
>
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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[John T. <jth...@ha...>]

I dont know if sony would ever release it to the U.S.A.. They sure don't
seem really intrested now.

John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
Editor in Chief
Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
To: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>; "hw...@sy..."
<h.w...@sy...>; <ps2...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?


> John--
>
> I strongly suggest you wait until Sony releases the US
> PS2 Linux.  It comes with online documentation
> explaining every programmable componenets in PS2, CPU,
> VPU, MPU, Controller ports, Controllers, demo programs
> with source codes, etc.  I do currently running a
> linux on my PS2 and that's how I know.  I've been
> hearing that US linux will be release very soon.
> Please wait.
>
> sincerely
>
> --- John Thornton <jth...@ha...> wrote:
> > Ok, lets get loud until we need a moderator.
> >
> > I would like to introduce myself. My name is John
> > Thornton I'm a unemployed
> > network administrator by day and a small independent
> > magazine called
> > Hacker's Digest by night. I'm in the U.S.A. If you
> > are reading this email
> > let me know and tell me where you are from.
> >
> > I have one goal as of now, to have Linux on my ps2.
> > Why? So I can exploit
> > it. Sony is a huge supporter of the DMCA and I want
> > to do anything to hack
> > my ps2.
> >
> > So my first question is, where do I get started. The
> > information on getting
> > this going is just about null. I found this site by
> > luck and I can see why
> > its so damn quite.
> >
> > It seems to me getting Linux running on a ps2 in the
> > U.S.A. is really on
> > hold if/until Sony feels like it. So if anyone is
> > reading this, take the
> > time out and go to.
> > http://www.ps2linux.scea.com/interest_form.shtml
> > And
> > http://www.fakeroot.net/ps2linux/index.php3.en -
> > Petition for the public
> > Release of Linux for the PlayStation2
> > - Til reach to 10,000 - the total number of
> > signatures is now 8,940, only
> > 1,060 remained til 10,000.
> >
> > One of the other sites I have run across is
> >
> http://www.runix.ru/pages_en/Downloads/Our_collection/.
> > They have a "Linux
> > kernel for Playstation 2 alpha 1 - Archive Linux
> > kernel for Playstation 2
> > alpha 1. (Added: 30-Oct-2001 Hits: 1047 Rating: 5.46
> > Votes: 13) Rate It ".
> > Has anyone gotten Linux to run this way?
> >
> > >The tools that have been developed
> > > by prominent list members allow a PC USB link to a
> > PS2 to be
> > > used for program download and debugging - a HUGE
> > step
> > > forward from the compile-burn-repeat cycle
> > developed before
> > > by those same people;)
> >
> > Where can I find information on this? I seem to come
> > up with nothing on
> > google, has this been done in Japan? or some where
> > else.
> >
> > John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> > Editor in Chief
> > Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>
> > To: <ps2...@li...>
> > Cc: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this
> > show?
> >
> >
> > > John Thornton misspelled :
> > >     From: "John Thornton"
> > <jth...@ha...>
> > >     To: <ps2...@li...>
> > >     Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:26 PM
> > >     Subject: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running
> > this show?
> > >     > Damn it, I joined this list thinking there
> > was really people who
> > > wanted
> > >     > linux on there PS/2. Who is running this
> > list?
> > >
> > > Trolling, trolling trolling !
> > > Notice that the list isn't called "PS2Linux-devel"
> > ?
> > > You're always welcome to start one ;) I'd be happy
> > to join!
> > >
> > > However, this list isn't entirely dedicated to
> > running Linux on PS2...
> > >
> > > Much if it is concerned with developing and
> > running
> > > cross tools (and dicussing programming techniques)
> > > hosted on standard wintel platform Linux - much
> > more
> > > useful than focusing on those very few that have
> > access
> > > to PS2 Linux. Though PS2 linux is useful for
> > investigation
> > > and prototyping, it is not a desirable target for
> > mass
> > > applications or games. The tools that have been
> > deveoped
> > > by prominent list members allow a PC USB link to a
> > PS2 to be
> > > used for program download and debugging - a HUGE
> > step
> > > forward from the compile-burn-repeat cycle
> > developed before
> > > by those same people;)
> > >
> > > With the release of a revamped PS2 Linux for US
> > machines,
> > > (soon!) and the standalone hard drive kit coupled
> > with
> > > a supported USB-nic, many more people will be able
> > to
> > > use native MIPS Linux on "there"/their PS2s, using
> > the commercial
> > > kit or homebrew variations. Review the list
> > histories and
> > > you will find much useful information of pS2 Linux
> > > as well as valuable links. Please spend some time
> > become
> > > complaining;)
> > >
> > > Regards;
> > > Heinz
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ps2hacking-devel mailing list
> > ps2...@li...
> >
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ps2hacking-devel
>
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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[J.Brown (Ender/Amigo) <en...@en...>]

John,
	I suggest you do a little bit of research... Sony have indeed
announced they are commited to providing an international Linux kit.

Some simple google queries would have told you that :)
This list is more for low-level homebrew work on the PS2.

 - Ender

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                | indistinguishable from a perl script.
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, John Thornton wrote:

> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:38:31 -0500
> From: John Thornton <jth...@ha...>
> To: Tori Hana <tor...@ya...>,
>      "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>,
>      ps2...@li...
> Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?
>
> I dont know if sony would ever release it to the U.S.A.. They sure don't
> seem really intrested now.
>
> John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> Editor in Chief
> Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
> To: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>; "hw...@sy..."
> <h.w...@sy...>; <ps2...@li...>
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?
>
>
> > John--
> >
> > I strongly suggest you wait until Sony releases the US
> > PS2 Linux.  It comes with online documentation
> > explaining every programmable componenets in PS2, CPU,
> > VPU, MPU, Controller ports, Controllers, demo programs
> > with source codes, etc.  I do currently running a
> > linux on my PS2 and that's how I know.  I've been
> > hearing that US linux will be release very soon.
> > Please wait.
> >
> > sincerely
> >
> > --- John Thornton <jth...@ha...> wrote:
> > > Ok, lets get loud until we need a moderator.
> > >
> > > I would like to introduce myself. My name is John
> > > Thornton I'm a unemployed
> > > network administrator by day and a small independent
> > > magazine called
> > > Hacker's Digest by night. I'm in the U.S.A. If you
> > > are reading this email
> > > let me know and tell me where you are from.
> > >
> > > I have one goal as of now, to have Linux on my ps2.
> > > Why? So I can exploit
> > > it. Sony is a huge supporter of the DMCA and I want
> > > to do anything to hack
> > > my ps2.
> > >
> > > So my first question is, where do I get started. The
> > > information on getting
> > > this going is just about null. I found this site by
> > > luck and I can see why
> > > its so damn quite.
> > >
> > > It seems to me getting Linux running on a ps2 in the
> > > U.S.A. is really on
> > > hold if/until Sony feels like it. So if anyone is
> > > reading this, take the
> > > time out and go to.
> > > http://www.ps2linux.scea.com/interest_form.shtml
> > > And
> > > http://www.fakeroot.net/ps2linux/index.php3.en -
> > > Petition for the public
> > > Release of Linux for the PlayStation2
> > > - Til reach to 10,000 - the total number of
> > > signatures is now 8,940, only
> > > 1,060 remained til 10,000.
> > >
> > > One of the other sites I have run across is
> > >
> > http://www.runix.ru/pages_en/Downloads/Our_collection/.
> > > They have a "Linux
> > > kernel for Playstation 2 alpha 1 - Archive Linux
> > > kernel for Playstation 2
> > > alpha 1. (Added: 30-Oct-2001 Hits: 1047 Rating: 5.46
> > > Votes: 13) Rate It ".
> > > Has anyone gotten Linux to run this way?
> > >
> > > >The tools that have been developed
> > > > by prominent list members allow a PC USB link to a
> > > PS2 to be
> > > > used for program download and debugging - a HUGE
> > > step
> > > > forward from the compile-burn-repeat cycle
> > > developed before
> > > > by those same people;)
> > >
> > > Where can I find information on this? I seem to come
> > > up with nothing on
> > > google, has this been done in Japan? or some where
> > > else.
> > >
> > > John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> > > Editor in Chief
> > > Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>
> > > To: <ps2...@li...>
> > > Cc: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this
> > > show?
> > >
> > >
> > > > John Thornton misspelled :
> > > >     From: "John Thornton"
> > > <jth...@ha...>
> > > >     To: <ps2...@li...>
> > > >     Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:26 PM
> > > >     Subject: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running
> > > this show?
> > > >     > Damn it, I joined this list thinking there
> > > was really people who
> > > > wanted
> > > >     > linux on there PS/2. Who is running this
> > > list?
> > > >
> > > > Trolling, trolling trolling !
> > > > Notice that the list isn't called "PS2Linux-devel"
> > > ?
> > > > You're always welcome to start one ;) I'd be happy
> > > to join!
> > > >
> > > > However, this list isn't entirely dedicated to
> > > running Linux on PS2...
> > > >
> > > > Much if it is concerned with developing and
> > > running
> > > > cross tools (and dicussing programming techniques)
> > > > hosted on standard wintel platform Linux - much
> > > more
> > > > useful than focusing on those very few that have
> > > access
> > > > to PS2 Linux. Though PS2 linux is useful for
> > > investigation
> > > > and prototyping, it is not a desirable target for
> > > mass
> > > > applications or games. The tools that have been
> > > deveoped
> > > > by prominent list members allow a PC USB link to a
> > > PS2 to be
> > > > used for program download and debugging - a HUGE
> > > step
> > > > forward from the compile-burn-repeat cycle
> > > developed before
> > > > by those same people;)
> > > >
> > > > With the release of a revamped PS2 Linux for US
> > > machines,
> > > > (soon!) and the standalone hard drive kit coupled
> > > with
> > > > a supported USB-nic, many more people will be able
> > > to
> > > > use native MIPS Linux on "there"/their PS2s, using
> > > the commercial
> > > > kit or homebrew variations. Review the list
> > > histories and
> > > > you will find much useful information of pS2 Linux
> > > > as well as valuable links. Please spend some time
> > > become
> > > > complaining;)
> > > >
> > > > Regards;
> > > > Heinz
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > ps2hacking-devel mailing list
> > > ps2...@li...
> > >
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ps2hacking-devel
> >
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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[M. R. B. <mr...@0x...>]

* John Thornton <jth...@ha...> on Sun, Jan 06, 2002:

>=20
> I have one goal as of now, to have Linux on my ps2. Why? So I can exploit
> it. Sony is a huge supporter of the DMCA and I want to do anything to hack
> my ps2.
>=20

That's a stupid reason if I ever heard one, for a multitude of reasons I
won't go into.

> So my first question is, where do I get started. The information on getti=
ng
> this going is just about null. I found this site by luck and I can see why
> its so damn quite.
>=20

Development is moving very slowly.  Up until a month or so ago, there
wasn't a viable way to send code to the PS2 besides burning CD after CD.
Also, if the PS2 homebrew scene takes anything from the Dreamcast one,
it'll be a loooong time before anything major gets started.

> It seems to me getting Linux running on a ps2 in the U.S.A. is really on
> hold if/until Sony feels like it. So if anyone is reading this, take the
> time out and go to.

There are already two ports of Linux to the PS2 that aren't
Sony-sanctioned.  One of the developers of the 2.4.x port is on this list,
GOTO Masanori.  You will find its source in the linux2.4 CVS module of this
project (ps2hacking.sf.net).

The other lives in the linux CVS tree at linux-mips.sf.net.

M. R.

Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[now3d <n3...@an...>]

Hello M. R.,

You seem to be more aware of these 2 kernels than I, so are the 2 other
Linux kernels being developed not integrated with the main linux trunk
kernel CVS?

Is there a planned merge at some point in the future?

now3d

"M. R. Brown" wrote:
> 
> There are already two ports of Linux to the PS2 that aren't
> Sony-sanctioned.  One of the developers of the 2.4.x port is on this list,
> GOTO Masanori.  You will find its source in the linux2.4 CVS module of this
> project (ps2hacking.sf.net).
> 
> The other lives in the linux CVS tree at linux-mips.sf.net.
> 
> M. R.
> 

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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[John T. <jth...@ha...>]

 >> I have one goal as of now, to have Linux on my ps2. Why? So I can
exploit
>> it. Sony is a huge supporter of the DMCA and I want to do anything to
hack
> >my ps2.

>That's a stupid reason if I ever heard one, for a multitude of reasons I
>won't go into.

Please do. I would like to know what you think. That us if you have the
time.

>> It seems to me getting Linux running on a ps2 in the U.S.A. is really on
>> hold if/until Sony feels like it. So if anyone is reading this, take the
>> time out and go to.

>There are already two ports of Linux to the PS2 that aren't
>Sony-sanctioned.  One of the developers of the 2.4.x port is on this list,
>GOTO Masanori.  You will find its source in the linux2.4 CVS module of this
>project (ps2hacking.sf.net).

>The other lives in the linux CVS tree at linux-mips.sf.net.

.>M. R.

This is great news. Do you have a kit? Has anyone gotten it to work without
a kit?

John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
Editor in Chief
Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...>
To: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>
Cc: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>;
<ps2...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[M. R. B. <mr...@0x...>]

* John Thornton <jth...@ha...> on Sun, Jan 06, 2002:

>=20
> Please do. I would like to know what you think. That us if you have the
> time.
>=20

I'm not much of a political person in that respect.  I don't think
politicians make good hackers, emotions get too muddled up, and it seems
like your "issues" with Sony are more politically motivated rather than hac=
ker
motivated.  That's not really my thing :P.  Too bad you aren't in this for
the fun of hacking the PS2.

>=20
> This is great news. Do you have a kit? Has anyone gotten it to work witho=
ut
> a kit?
>=20

Nope, I don't have a kit.  I'm still heavily active in Dreamcast
homebrew/Linux stuff, so I haven't dedicated myself to PS2/Linux projects
yet.  I do believe it's possible (using the homebrew boot methods and/or
USB loaders available) to get a PS2/Linux kernel booting on a US PS2.

The main problem I see is that a huge chunk of PS2 kernel code is binary
only, Sony uses a bootloader mechanism called "SBIOS" from their kernel
source, and this provides functionality for sound, CD/DVD, joypads,
memcards, etc.  I've started reversing this (mostly just RPC calls back to
the IOP), but I haven't made a whole lot of progress.

My main goal is to get a fully open-sourced version of Linux that's
compatible with all PS2's.

M. R.

Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[Tori H. <tor...@ya...>]

So far, I wasn't too impressed with PS2 Linux.  It is
great to have a linux running on PS2 and able to
learn/experiment with it.  There are already some
people made games on PS2 Linux.  It does require
somewhat knowledge on assembly and C programming. 
There are no Java support nor IE/Netscape.  After all,
there are only 32MB ram available and when X11 takes
almost 10+MB away.  It is great though if you are
trying to learn how PS2 works specially the topic
related to making games.

sincerely

--- "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...> wrote:
> * John Thornton <jth...@ha...> on
> Sun, Jan 06, 2002:
> 
> > 
> > Please do. I would like to know what you think.
> That us if you have the
> > time.
> > 
> 
> I'm not much of a political person in that respect. 
> I don't think
> politicians make good hackers, emotions get too
> muddled up, and it seems
> like your "issues" with Sony are more politically
> motivated rather than hacker
> motivated.  That's not really my thing :P.  Too bad
> you aren't in this for
> the fun of hacking the PS2.
> 
> > 
> > This is great news. Do you have a kit? Has anyone
> gotten it to work without
> > a kit?
> > 
> 
> Nope, I don't have a kit.  I'm still heavily active
> in Dreamcast
> homebrew/Linux stuff, so I haven't dedicated myself
> to PS2/Linux projects
> yet.  I do believe it's possible (using the homebrew
> boot methods and/or
> USB loaders available) to get a PS2/Linux kernel
> booting on a US PS2.
> 
> The main problem I see is that a huge chunk of PS2
> kernel code is binary
> only, Sony uses a bootloader mechanism called
> "SBIOS" from their kernel
> source, and this provides functionality for sound,
> CD/DVD, joypads,
> memcards, etc.  I've started reversing this (mostly
> just RPC calls back to
> the IOP), but I haven't made a whole lot of
> progress.
> 
> My main goal is to get a fully open-sourced version
> of Linux that's
> compatible with all PS2's.
> 
> M. R.
> 

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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[John T. <jth...@ha...>]

Are you outside of Japan? Do you have a kit?

I remember at Comdex they said something about it doing something outrageous
like 4 gigaflops. does anyone remember that? I digress...

Have you guys looked into Trinux? I have heard of it getting ported to PALM
OS running in RAM. I do not know as much about PS2 as most of you but I do
think I have valuable skills to bring to the table.

John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
Editor in Chief
Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
To: "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...>; "John Thornton"
<jth...@ha...>
Cc: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>;
<ps2...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?


> So far, I wasn't too impressed with PS2 Linux.  It is
> great to have a linux running on PS2 and able to
> learn/experiment with it.  There are already some
> people made games on PS2 Linux.  It does require
> somewhat knowledge on assembly and C programming.
> There are no Java support nor IE/Netscape.  After all,
> there are only 32MB ram available and when X11 takes
> almost 10+MB away.  It is great though if you are
> trying to learn how PS2 works specially the topic
> related to making games.
>
> sincerely
>
> --- "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...> wrote:
> > * John Thornton <jth...@ha...> on
> > Sun, Jan 06, 2002:
> >
> > >
> > > Please do. I would like to know what you think.
> > That us if you have the
> > > time.
> > >
> >
> > I'm not much of a political person in that respect.
> > I don't think
> > politicians make good hackers, emotions get too
> > muddled up, and it seems
> > like your "issues" with Sony are more politically
> > motivated rather than hacker
> > motivated.  That's not really my thing :P.  Too bad
> > you aren't in this for
> > the fun of hacking the PS2.
> >
> > >
> > > This is great news. Do you have a kit? Has anyone
> > gotten it to work without
> > > a kit?
> > >
> >
> > Nope, I don't have a kit.  I'm still heavily active
> > in Dreamcast
> > homebrew/Linux stuff, so I haven't dedicated myself
> > to PS2/Linux projects
> > yet.  I do believe it's possible (using the homebrew
> > boot methods and/or
> > USB loaders available) to get a PS2/Linux kernel
> > booting on a US PS2.
> >
> > The main problem I see is that a huge chunk of PS2
> > kernel code is binary
> > only, Sony uses a bootloader mechanism called
> > "SBIOS" from their kernel
> > source, and this provides functionality for sound,
> > CD/DVD, joypads,
> > memcards, etc.  I've started reversing this (mostly
> > just RPC calls back to
> > the IOP), but I haven't made a whole lot of
> > progress.
> >
> > My main goal is to get a fully open-sourced version
> > of Linux that's
> > compatible with all PS2's.
> >
> > M. R.
> >
>
> > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature
>
>
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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[Tori H. <tor...@ya...>]

I am in US.  I ordered PS2 Linux in japan and
delivered to US.

--- John Thornton <jth...@ha...> wrote:
> Are you outside of Japan? Do you have a kit?
> 
> I remember at Comdex they said something about it
> doing something outrageous
> like 4 gigaflops. does anyone remember that? I
> digress...
> 
> Have you guys looked into Trinux? I have heard of it
> getting ported to PALM
> OS running in RAM. I do not know as much about PS2
> as most of you but I do
> think I have valuable skills to bring to the table.
> 
> John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> Editor in Chief
> Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
> To: "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...>; "John
> Thornton"
> <jth...@ha...>
> Cc: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>;
> <ps2...@li...>
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this
> show?
> 
> 
> > So far, I wasn't too impressed with PS2 Linux.  It
> is
> > great to have a linux running on PS2 and able to
> > learn/experiment with it.  There are already some
> > people made games on PS2 Linux.  It does require
> > somewhat knowledge on assembly and C programming.
> > There are no Java support nor IE/Netscape.  After
> all,
> > there are only 32MB ram available and when X11
> takes
> > almost 10+MB away.  It is great though if you are
> > trying to learn how PS2 works specially the topic
> > related to making games.
> >
> > sincerely
> >
> > --- "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...> wrote:
> > > * John Thornton <jth...@ha...> on
> > > Sun, Jan 06, 2002:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Please do. I would like to know what you
> think.
> > > That us if you have the
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm not much of a political person in that
> respect.
> > > I don't think
> > > politicians make good hackers, emotions get too
> > > muddled up, and it seems
> > > like your "issues" with Sony are more
> politically
> > > motivated rather than hacker
> > > motivated.  That's not really my thing :P.  Too
> bad
> > > you aren't in this for
> > > the fun of hacking the PS2.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > This is great news. Do you have a kit? Has
> anyone
> > > gotten it to work without
> > > > a kit?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Nope, I don't have a kit.  I'm still heavily
> active
> > > in Dreamcast
> > > homebrew/Linux stuff, so I haven't dedicated
> myself
> > > to PS2/Linux projects
> > > yet.  I do believe it's possible (using the
> homebrew
> > > boot methods and/or
> > > USB loaders available) to get a PS2/Linux kernel
> > > booting on a US PS2.
> > >
> > > The main problem I see is that a huge chunk of
> PS2
> > > kernel code is binary
> > > only, Sony uses a bootloader mechanism called
> > > "SBIOS" from their kernel
> > > source, and this provides functionality for
> sound,
> > > CD/DVD, joypads,
> > > memcards, etc.  I've started reversing this
> (mostly
> > > just RPC calls back to
> > > the IOP), but I haven't made a whole lot of
> > > progress.
> > >
> > > My main goal is to get a fully open-sourced
> version
> > > of Linux that's
> > > compatible with all PS2's.
> > >
> > > M. R.
> > >
> >
> > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature
> >
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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[John T. <jth...@ha...>]

Is it working in english. Do you have a link where I can order it? You did
not visit japan did you? :)

John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
Editor in Chief
Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
To: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>; "M. R. Brown"
<mr...@0x...>
Cc: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>;
<ps2...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?


> I am in US.  I ordered PS2 Linux in japan and
> delivered to US.
>
> --- John Thornton <jth...@ha...> wrote:
> > Are you outside of Japan? Do you have a kit?
> >
> > I remember at Comdex they said something about it
> > doing something outrageous
> > like 4 gigaflops. does anyone remember that? I
> > digress...
> >
> > Have you guys looked into Trinux? I have heard of it
> > getting ported to PALM
> > OS running in RAM. I do not know as much about PS2
> > as most of you but I do
> > think I have valuable skills to bring to the table.
> >
> > John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> > Editor in Chief
> > Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
> > To: "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...>; "John
> > Thornton"
> > <jth...@ha...>
> > Cc: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>;
> > <ps2...@li...>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this
> > show?
> >
> >
> > > So far, I wasn't too impressed with PS2 Linux.  It
> > is
> > > great to have a linux running on PS2 and able to
> > > learn/experiment with it.  There are already some
> > > people made games on PS2 Linux.  It does require
> > > somewhat knowledge on assembly and C programming.
> > > There are no Java support nor IE/Netscape.  After
> > all,
> > > there are only 32MB ram available and when X11
> > takes
> > > almost 10+MB away.  It is great though if you are
> > > trying to learn how PS2 works specially the topic
> > > related to making games.
> > >
> > > sincerely
> > >
> > > --- "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...> wrote:
> > > > * John Thornton <jth...@ha...> on
> > > > Sun, Jan 06, 2002:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please do. I would like to know what you
> > think.
> > > > That us if you have the
> > > > > time.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm not much of a political person in that
> > respect.
> > > > I don't think
> > > > politicians make good hackers, emotions get too
> > > > muddled up, and it seems
> > > > like your "issues" with Sony are more
> > politically
> > > > motivated rather than hacker
> > > > motivated.  That's not really my thing :P.  Too
> > bad
> > > > you aren't in this for
> > > > the fun of hacking the PS2.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is great news. Do you have a kit? Has
> > anyone
> > > > gotten it to work without
> > > > > a kit?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nope, I don't have a kit.  I'm still heavily
> > active
> > > > in Dreamcast
> > > > homebrew/Linux stuff, so I haven't dedicated
> > myself
> > > > to PS2/Linux projects
> > > > yet.  I do believe it's possible (using the
> > homebrew
> > > > boot methods and/or
> > > > USB loaders available) to get a PS2/Linux kernel
> > > > booting on a US PS2.
> > > >
> > > > The main problem I see is that a huge chunk of
> > PS2
> > > > kernel code is binary
> > > > only, Sony uses a bootloader mechanism called
> > > > "SBIOS" from their kernel
> > > > source, and this provides functionality for
> > sound,
> > > > CD/DVD, joypads,
> > > > memcards, etc.  I've started reversing this
> > (mostly
> > > > just RPC calls back to
> > > > the IOP), but I haven't made a whole lot of
> > > > progress.
> > > >
> > > > My main goal is to get a fully open-sourced
> > version
> > > > of Linux that's
> > > > compatible with all PS2's.
> > > >
> > > > M. R.
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[Tori H. <tor...@ya...>]

No, I ordered here.  Just asked my friends to help me
out to ship it here.  It's all in english except for
the boot menu.(kinda like lilo).
everything is in english including online documents
for CPU,VPU0,1...etc.


--- John Thornton <jth...@ha...> wrote:
> Is it working in english. Do you have a link where I
> can order it? You did
> not visit japan did you? :)
> 
> John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> Editor in Chief
> Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
> To: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>;
> "M. R. Brown"
> <mr...@0x...>
> Cc: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>;
> <ps2...@li...>
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 11:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this
> show?
> 
> 
> > I am in US.  I ordered PS2 Linux in japan and
> > delivered to US.
> >
> > --- John Thornton <jth...@ha...>
> wrote:
> > > Are you outside of Japan? Do you have a kit?
> > >
> > > I remember at Comdex they said something about
> it
> > > doing something outrageous
> > > like 4 gigaflops. does anyone remember that? I
> > > digress...
> > >
> > > Have you guys looked into Trinux? I have heard
> of it
> > > getting ported to PALM
> > > OS running in RAM. I do not know as much about
> PS2
> > > as most of you but I do
> > > think I have valuable skills to bring to the
> table.
> > >
> > > John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> > > Editor in Chief
> > > Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
> > > To: "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...>; "John
> > > Thornton"
> > > <jth...@ha...>
> > > Cc: "hw...@sy..."
> <h.w...@sy...>;
> > > <ps2...@li...>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:35 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running
> this
> > > show?
> > >
> > >
> > > > So far, I wasn't too impressed with PS2 Linux.
>  It
> > > is
> > > > great to have a linux running on PS2 and able
> to
> > > > learn/experiment with it.  There are already
> some
> > > > people made games on PS2 Linux.  It does
> require
> > > > somewhat knowledge on assembly and C
> programming.
> > > > There are no Java support nor IE/Netscape. 
> After
> > > all,
> > > > there are only 32MB ram available and when X11
> > > takes
> > > > almost 10+MB away.  It is great though if you
> are
> > > > trying to learn how PS2 works specially the
> topic
> > > > related to making games.
> > > >
> > > > sincerely
> > > >
> > > > --- "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...> wrote:
> > > > > * John Thornton
> <jth...@ha...> on
> > > > > Sun, Jan 06, 2002:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please do. I would like to know what you
> > > think.
> > > > > That us if you have the
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not much of a political person in that
> > > respect.
> > > > > I don't think
> > > > > politicians make good hackers, emotions get
> too
> > > > > muddled up, and it seems
> > > > > like your "issues" with Sony are more
> > > politically
> > > > > motivated rather than hacker
> > > > > motivated.  That's not really my thing :P. 
> Too
> > > bad
> > > > > you aren't in this for
> > > > > the fun of hacking the PS2.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is great news. Do you have a kit? Has
> > > anyone
> > > > > gotten it to work without
> > > > > > a kit?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Nope, I don't have a kit.  I'm still heavily
> > > active
> > > > > in Dreamcast
> > > > > homebrew/Linux stuff, so I haven't dedicated
> > > myself
> > > > > to PS2/Linux projects
> > > > > yet.  I do believe it's possible (using the
> > > homebrew
> > > > > boot methods and/or
> > > > > USB loaders available) to get a PS2/Linux
> kernel
> > > > > booting on a US PS2.
> > > > >
> > > > > The main problem I see is that a huge chunk
> of
> > > PS2
> > > > > kernel code is binary
> > > > > only, Sony uses a bootloader mechanism
> called
> > > > > "SBIOS" from their kernel
> > > > > source, and this provides functionality for
> > > sound,
> > > > > CD/DVD, joypads,
> > > > > memcards, etc.  I've started reversing this
> > > (mostly
> > > > > just RPC calls back to
> > > > > the IOP), but I haven't made a whole lot of
> > > > > progress.
> > > > >
> > > > > My main goal is to get a fully open-sourced
> > > version
> > > > > of Linux that's
> > > > > compatible with all PS2's.
> > > > >
> > > > > M. R.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =====
> > > > Secret Message
> > > > a5b5f05e27414b4854170d33ae76402a
> > > >
> > > >
> __________________________________________________
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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[John T. <jth...@ha...>]

Wow, I would be scared of getting ripped off. I think it would be hard for
someone to turnover a paid PS2.

If I had access to a DVD Burner could I make a BIT for BIT copy of that
linux dvd you have and make it work? Is that realistic?

I have a SCPH-30001. Also, I read that Sony had a recall on some PS2's
because they would play DVD's of any region code. I changed the region code
on mine a good number of times however I do not own any DVD's from a
different region code so I have not given it the real test.

-j

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
To: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>; "M. R. Brown"
<mr...@0x...>
Cc: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>;
<ps2...@li...>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?


> No, I ordered here.  Just asked my friends to help me
> out to ship it here.  It's all in english except for
> the boot menu.(kinda like lilo).
> everything is in english including online documents
> for CPU,VPU0,1...etc.
>
>
> --- John Thornton <jth...@ha...> wrote:
> > Is it working in english. Do you have a link where I
> > can order it? You did
> > not visit japan did you? :)
> >
> > John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> > Editor in Chief
> > Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
> > To: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>;
> > "M. R. Brown"
> > <mr...@0x...>
> > Cc: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>;
> > <ps2...@li...>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 11:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this
> > show?
> >
> >
> > > I am in US.  I ordered PS2 Linux in japan and
> > > delivered to US.
> > >
> > > --- John Thornton <jth...@ha...>
> > wrote:
> > > > Are you outside of Japan? Do you have a kit?
> > > >
> > > > I remember at Comdex they said something about
> > it
> > > > doing something outrageous
> > > > like 4 gigaflops. does anyone remember that? I
> > > > digress...
> > > >
> > > > Have you guys looked into Trinux? I have heard
> > of it
> > > > getting ported to PALM
> > > > OS running in RAM. I do not know as much about
> > PS2
> > > > as most of you but I do
> > > > think I have valuable skills to bring to the
> > table.
> > > >
> > > > John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> > > > Editor in Chief
> > > > Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
> > > > To: "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...>; "John
> > > > Thornton"
> > > > <jth...@ha...>
> > > > Cc: "hw...@sy..."
> > <h.w...@sy...>;
> > > > <ps2...@li...>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:35 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running
> > this
> > > > show?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > So far, I wasn't too impressed with PS2 Linux.
> >  It
> > > > is
> > > > > great to have a linux running on PS2 and able
> > to
> > > > > learn/experiment with it.  There are already
> > some
> > > > > people made games on PS2 Linux.  It does
> > require
> > > > > somewhat knowledge on assembly and C
> > programming.
> > > > > There are no Java support nor IE/Netscape.
> > After
> > > > all,
> > > > > there are only 32MB ram available and when X11
> > > > takes
> > > > > almost 10+MB away.  It is great though if you
> > are
> > > > > trying to learn how PS2 works specially the
> > topic
> > > > > related to making games.
> > > > >
> > > > > sincerely
> > > > >
> > > > > --- "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...> wrote:
> > > > > > * John Thornton
> > <jth...@ha...> on
> > > > > > Sun, Jan 06, 2002:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please do. I would like to know what you
> > > > think.
> > > > > > That us if you have the
> > > > > > > time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not much of a political person in that
> > > > respect.
> > > > > > I don't think
> > > > > > politicians make good hackers, emotions get
> > too
> > > > > > muddled up, and it seems
> > > > > > like your "issues" with Sony are more
> > > > politically
> > > > > > motivated rather than hacker
> > > > > > motivated.  That's not really my thing :P.
> > Too
> > > > bad
> > > > > > you aren't in this for
> > > > > > the fun of hacking the PS2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is great news. Do you have a kit? Has
> > > > anyone
> > > > > > gotten it to work without
> > > > > > > a kit?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope, I don't have a kit.  I'm still heavily
> > > > active
> > > > > > in Dreamcast
> > > > > > homebrew/Linux stuff, so I haven't dedicated
> > > > myself
> > > > > > to PS2/Linux projects
> > > > > > yet.  I do believe it's possible (using the
> > > > homebrew
> > > > > > boot methods and/or
> > > > > > USB loaders available) to get a PS2/Linux
> > kernel
> > > > > > booting on a US PS2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The main problem I see is that a huge chunk
> > of
> > > > PS2
> > > > > > kernel code is binary
> > > > > > only, Sony uses a bootloader mechanism
> > called
> > > > > > "SBIOS" from their kernel
> > > > > > source, and this provides functionality for
> > > > sound,
> > > > > > CD/DVD, joypads,
> > > > > > memcards, etc.  I've started reversing this
> > > > (mostly
> > > > > > just RPC calls back to
> > > > > > the IOP), but I haven't made a whole lot of
> > > > > > progress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My main goal is to get a fully open-sourced
> > > > version
> > > > > > of Linux that's
> > > > > > compatible with all PS2's.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > M. R.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > =====
> > > > > Secret Message
> > > > > a5b5f05e27414b4854170d33ae76402a
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > __________________________________________________
> > > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > ps2...@li...
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ps2hacking-devel
> > >
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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[Tori H. <tor...@ya...>]

My PS2 is one of those Sony did not like because it
can play mulitple region DVDs.  However, I don't know
if you can get a linux working on your PS2 without a
HDD.  You can buy a HDD for your model from Japan and
try linux DVD.  I think that probably works.


--- John Thornton <jth...@ha...> wrote:
> Wow, I would be scared of getting ripped off. I
> think it would be hard for
> someone to turnover a paid PS2.
> 
> If I had access to a DVD Burner could I make a BIT
> for BIT copy of that
> linux dvd you have and make it work? Is that
> realistic?
> 
> I have a SCPH-30001. Also, I read that Sony had a
> recall on some PS2's
> because they would play DVD's of any region code. I
> changed the region code
> on mine a good number of times however I do not own
> any DVD's from a
> different region code so I have not given it the
> real test.
> 
> -j
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
> To: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>;
> "M. R. Brown"
> <mr...@0x...>
> Cc: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>;
> <ps2...@li...>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this
> show?
> 
> 
> > No, I ordered here.  Just asked my friends to help
> me
> > out to ship it here.  It's all in english except
> for
> > the boot menu.(kinda like lilo).
> > everything is in english including online
> documents
> > for CPU,VPU0,1...etc.
> >
> >
> > --- John Thornton <jth...@ha...>
> wrote:
> > > Is it working in english. Do you have a link
> where I
> > > can order it? You did
> > > not visit japan did you? :)
> > >
> > > John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
> > > Editor in Chief
> > > Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
> > > To: "John Thornton"
> <jth...@ha...>;
> > > "M. R. Brown"
> > > <mr...@0x...>
> > > Cc: "hw...@sy..."
> <h.w...@sy...>;
> > > <ps2...@li...>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 11:57 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running
> this
> > > show?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am in US.  I ordered PS2 Linux in japan and
> > > > delivered to US.
> > > >
> > > > --- John Thornton
> <jth...@ha...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Are you outside of Japan? Do you have a kit?
> > > > >
> > > > > I remember at Comdex they said something
> about
> > > it
> > > > > doing something outrageous
> > > > > like 4 gigaflops. does anyone remember that?
> I
> > > > > digress...
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you guys looked into Trinux? I have
> heard
> > > of it
> > > > > getting ported to PALM
> > > > > OS running in RAM. I do not know as much
> about
> > > PS2
> > > > > as most of you but I do
> > > > > think I have valuable skills to bring to the
> > > table.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Thornton  - 
> jth...@ha...
> > > > > Editor in Chief
> > > > > Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Tori Hana" <tor...@ya...>
> > > > > To: "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...>; "John
> > > > > Thornton"
> > > > > <jth...@ha...>
> > > > > Cc: "hw...@sy..."
> > > <h.w...@sy...>;
> > > > > <ps2...@li...>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 10:35 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is
> running
> > > this
> > > > > show?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > So far, I wasn't too impressed with PS2
> Linux.
> > >  It
> > > > > is
> > > > > > great to have a linux running on PS2 and
> able
> > > to
> > > > > > learn/experiment with it.  There are
> already
> > > some
> > > > > > people made games on PS2 Linux.  It does
> > > require
> > > > > > somewhat knowledge on assembly and C
> > > programming.
> > > > > > There are no Java support nor IE/Netscape.
> > > After
> > > > > all,
> > > > > > there are only 32MB ram available and when
> X11
> > > > > takes
> > > > > > almost 10+MB away.  It is great though if
> you
> > > are
> > > > > > trying to learn how PS2 works specially
> the
> > > topic
> > > > > > related to making games.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sincerely
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > * John Thornton
> > > <jth...@ha...> on
> > > > > > > Sun, Jan 06, 2002:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please do. I would like to know what
> you
> > > > > think.
> > > > > > > That us if you have the
> > > > > > > > time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not much of a political person in
> that
> > > > > respect.
> > > > > > > I don't think
> > > > > > > politicians make good hackers, emotions
> get
> > > too
> > > > > > > muddled up, and it seems
> > > > > > > like your "issues" with Sony are more
> > > > > politically
> > > > > > > motivated rather than hacker
> > > > > > > motivated.  That's not really my thing
> :P.
> > > Too
> > > > > bad
> > > > > > > you aren't in this for
> > > > > > > the fun of hacking the PS2.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is great news. Do you have a kit?
> Has
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > > > gotten it to work without
> > > > > > > > a kit?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nope, I don't have a kit.  I'm still
> heavily
> > > > > active
> > > > > > > in Dreamcast
> > > > > > > homebrew/Linux stuff, so I haven't
> dedicated
> > > > > myself
> > > > > > > to PS2/Linux projects
> > > > > > > yet.  I do believe it's possible (using
> the
> > > > > homebrew
> > > > > > > boot methods and/or
> > > > > > > USB loaders available) to get a
> PS2/Linux
> > > kernel
> > > > > > > booting on a US PS2.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The main problem I see is that a huge
> chunk
> > > of
> > > > > PS2
> > > > > > > kernel code is binary
> > > > > > > only, Sony uses a bootloader mechanism
> > > called
> > > > > > > "SBIOS" from their kernel
> > > > > > > source, and this provides functionality
> for
> > > > > sound,
> > > > > > > CD/DVD, joypads,
> > > > > > > memcards, etc.  I've started reversing
> this
> > > > > (mostly
> > > > > > > just RPC calls back to
> > > > > > > the IOP), but I haven't made a whole lot
> of
> > > > > > > progress.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My main goal is to get a fully
> open-sourced
> > > > > version
> > > > > > > of Linux that's
> > > > > > > compatible with all PS2's.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > M. R.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2
> application/pgp-signature
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > =====
> > > > > > Secret Message
> > > > > > a5b5f05e27414b4854170d33ae76402a
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
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> > > > > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail!
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> > >
> >
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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[John T. <jth...@ha...>]

>I'm not much of a political person in that respect.  I don't think
>politicians make good hackers, emotions get too muddled up, and it seems
>like your "issues" with Sony are more politically motivated rather than
hacker
>motivated.  That's not really my thing :P.  Too bad you aren't in this for
>the fun of hacking the PS2.

I hear you, I'm not a preacher. I don't think anyone who wants to have linux
on their ps2 is not in it for the fun of hacking. I am no different. :)

>Nope, I don't have a kit.  I'm still heavily active in Dreamcast
>homebrew/Linux stuff, so I haven't dedicated myself to PS2/Linux projects
>yet.  I do believe it's possible (using the homebrew boot methods and/or
>USB loaders available) to get a PS2/Linux kernel booting on a US PS2.

I have seen the Dreamcast kernel. When you installed linux on your
dreamcast, you have a mod chip and boot it with a CDRW correct? What do you
use for a storage medium or have you no got that far yet?

Sadly I do not have a Dreamcast just a PS2, however I have gotten a few
links from people to get started. I just would like to start a discussion on
this list about the steps needed to cheat the release.

>The main problem I see is that a huge chunk of PS2 kernel code is binary
>only, Sony uses a bootloader mechanism called "SBIOS" from their kernel
>source, and this provides functionality for sound, CD/DVD, joypads,
>memcards, etc.  I've started reversing this (mostly just RPC calls back to
>the IOP), but I haven't made a whole lot of progress.
>
>My main goal is to get a fully open-sourced version of Linux that's
>compatible with all PS2's.

>M. R.

Give me a few to read up on some of the info. M. R. you just made yourself a
new friend.

Anyone else out there?

John Thornton  -  jth...@ha...
Editor in Chief
Hackers Digest -  www.hackersdigest.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "M. R. Brown" <mr...@0x...>
To: "John Thornton" <jth...@ha...>
Cc: "hw...@sy..." <h.w...@sy...>;
<ps2...@li...>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[M. R. B. <mr...@0x...>]

* John Thornton <jth...@ha...> on Sun, Jan 06, 2002:

>=20
> I hear you, I'm not a preacher. I don't think anyone who wants to have li=
nux
> on their ps2 is not in it for the fun of hacking. I am no different. :)
>=20

Cool, I see where you're coming from - don't get me wrong, I have big
problems with Sony too, and a "we Love Linux" IBM-style PS2Linux
kit/campaign, ain't gonna pacify me :P.  I want it all.

>=20
> I have seen the Dreamcast kernel. When you installed linux on your
> dreamcast, you have a mod chip and boot it with a CDRW correct? What do y=
ou
> use for a storage medium or have you no got that far yet?
>=20

Nope, DC's don't normally do CDRW's.  For development/testing I use Andrew
K.'s dcload-ip to send kernels over the DC's ethernet adapter (BBA).  When
the kernel boots it mounts an NFS share as root from my workstation.  That
share has a minimalistic busybox- (busybox.net) based filesystem that
allows me to test apps "on the fly", since I don't have to reboot the DC to
add files to the filesystem.  If an app doesn't work, recompile it, replace
the old one, and try again.  If the kernel doesn't work, reboot, but that
cycle is only about 1.5 minutes.

I imagine for PS2/Linux development a similiar scheme could be used.

Also, just like all consumer PS2's I know of (who knows how long it'll
last) all Dreamcast produced before October 2000 are capable of booting CDR
media, without a modchip.  The only difference is that PS2's require a swap
method, whereas the Dreamcast doesn't.

> Sadly I do not have a Dreamcast just a PS2, however I have gotten a few
> links from people to get started. I just would like to start a discussion=
 on
> this list about the steps needed to cheat the release.
>=20

That's good, because a lot of this territory hasn't really been fleshed out
yet.  If docs and info are to be gathered/written, then it's us to get it
done, since most of those resources aren't available.

AFAIK, the new preferred method of getting code to the PS2 is Napalm's
Naplink software (http://naplink.napalm-x.com/).  Unless you use a version
of a PS2 modchip that circumvents the entire CD authentication process (of
which I know absolutely nothing about), you must use a swap method to swap
out a valid CD with the CDR Naplink one.

Datel/InterAct's GameShark CD is the preferred swap disc, the later versions
(I have yet to pick one up, still stuck with the near-useless 1.4 currently)
are recommended, either v1.7 or v1.9+.  Apparently Datel/InterAct got some
pressure/morals about facilitating the CD swap, but finally saw the $$$ in
the recent versions :P.  Just speculation here.

Now, I went through the trouble of modding my PS2 with the Neo 2.5 DVD
modchip, it allows normal booting of original PSX media and swap-booting of
PS2 media.  It detects when the GameShark acesses it's proprietary dongle
and ejects the CD tray so that you can swap with your homebrew CDR.  Once
swapped, you start the "game" normally and away you go.  However, I have
not *personally* sat down and burned or used Naplink, so YMMV.  Also, keep
in mind that in most circumstances, you do *not* need a modchip to swap on
your PS2, one of the "physical" swap methods (e.g. using a knife, search
for sites with detailed info) will work fine.  I was able to swap on my PS2
before I installed a modchip.

Ok.  As far as booting Linux goes, it will involve:

- Getting MIPS EE cross-toolchain up and running.  I believe there's info
  on getting the tools, or the sources for the patched tools (the tools
  *must* be patched to be of any use, unless you're a masochist) at
  ps2hacking.sf.net.  Also, now3d's site had the sources as well, now3d, is
  your site back up?

- Ascertaining whether or not the Open Source bits of the PS2 linux kernel
  source from Sony is good enough for a kernel.  You do have a GS-based
  framebuffer console and USB support, so this should be more than enough
  to get a console and keyboard attached.  You can also plug in an USB-based
  network device, so it should also be possible to mount NFS root.

As I said in the previous mail, the rest of the interesting, juicy bits:
sound, CD/DVD access, memcard and pad access are in binary form only, and
only available in the bootloader that comes with the PS2 Linux kit.  This
means that we have to write these source components ourselves, if the
kernel is ever to be legal and complete.

Hopefully this enough to get some thoughts/ideas brewing.

>=20
> Give me a few to read up on some of the info. M. R. you just made yoursel=
f a
> new friend.
>=20

I will try and give as much time as possible, but hey, I like doing this
stuff anyway :P.  Just need the time to do it.

M. R.

Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[now3d <n3...@an...>]

John Thornton wrote:
> 
> 
> This is great news. Do you have a kit? Has anyone gotten it to work without
> a kit?

Booting it is the problem here, sony have their equivelent of LILO which
starts the install or starts from HDD if already installed. So assuming
you buy your own HDD/eth0 combo you would still need to borrow the DVD
to install and then make a boot disk of your own.

People have made working boot disks from backing up their own PS2 Linux
boot disk and missing off the rpms etc, but its not really useful to
have a readonly linux distribution is it? 

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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[Tori H. <tor...@ya...>]

Mine needs to have a memory card to boot PS2 Linux...

--- now3d <n3...@an...> wrote:
> 
> John Thornton wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > This is great news. Do you have a kit? Has anyone
> gotten it to work without
> > a kit?
> 
> Booting it is the problem here, sony have their
> equivelent of LILO which
> starts the install or starts from HDD if already
> installed. So assuming
> you buy your own HDD/eth0 combo you would still need
> to borrow the DVD
> to install and then make a boot disk of your own.
> 
> People have made working boot disks from backing up
> their own PS2 Linux
> boot disk and missing off the rpms etc, but its not
> really useful to
> have a readonly linux distribution is it? 
> 
> now3d
> 
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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[M. R. B. <mr...@0x...>]

* now3d <n3...@an...> on Mon, Jan 07, 2002:

>=20
> Booting it is the problem here, sony have their equivelent of LILO which
> starts the install or starts from HDD if already installed. So assuming
> you buy your own HDD/eth0 combo you would still need to borrow the DVD
> to install and then make a boot disk of your own.
>=20
> People have made working boot disks from backing up their own PS2 Linux
> boot disk and missing off the rpms etc, but its not really useful to
> have a readonly linux distribution is it?=20
>=20

Ever heard of NFS?  It's a wonderful filesystem that lets you treat a
network share as a root device :P </cynicism>.

M. R.

Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[now3d <n3...@an...>]

"M. R. Brown" wrote:
> 
> 
> Ever heard of NFS?  It's a wonderful filesystem that lets you treat a
> network share as a root device :P </cynicism>.

Yeah, that's one option, but I disregarded it as it is a poor solution.
I made 1 floppy disk linux boxes before, but as I suggested ppl want
something that works within a reasonable time, not something that
requires you to hack up the sony LILO, boot from memcard and then mount
your NFS server you got ready before :)

*We* should be aiming for our own GPL bootloader that supports booting
from USB(pc), memcard, USB ethernet, and HDD, unless everyone wants to
use your NFS approach? Otherwise everyone will remain dependent on
Sony's propriety elements. Rather like developing Linux on a Sun machine
:)

With the closed src Naplink available that gives you some options
(limited) plink by ps2dev.sourceforge.net (AKA Legal.Link) *should* be
released one day soon as well.

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Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[M. R. B. <mr...@0x...>]

* now3d <n3...@an...> on Mon, Jan 07, 2002:

>=20
> Yeah, that's one option, but I disregarded it as it is a poor solution.
> I made 1 floppy disk linux boxes before, but as I suggested ppl want
> something that works within a reasonable time, not something that
> requires you to hack up the sony LILO, boot from memcard and then mount
> your NFS server you got ready before :)
>=20

=46rom what I understand, you can set specific boot options in Sony's
PS2Linux bootloader.  The most useful option would be kernel command line
parameters, if you can set these then you can pass the kernel the proper
string and mount NFS without hacking anything.  Just a thought, I don't
know how the bootloader looks or acts :P.

> *We* should be aiming for our own GPL bootloader that supports booting
> from USB(pc), memcard, USB ethernet, and HDD, unless everyone wants to
> use your NFS approach? Otherwise everyone will remain dependent on
> Sony's propriety elements. Rather like developing Linux on a Sun machine
> :)
>=20

I agree with you violently here.  First we need a bit more info on hardware
internals, hopefully folks will stay on the path of reverse-engineering.

Different note: are there any clues as to how Datel/InterAct mass-produce
valid PSX and PS2 CD's ?  This has always puzzled me to no end - does
anyone out there (privately or publically) have any info/insights into
this?

> With the closed src Naplink available that gives you some options
> (limited) plink by ps2dev.sourceforge.net (AKA Legal.Link) *should* be
> released one day soon as well.
>=20

Yeah, I haven't looked a lot at plink, but it looks promising.

I have the basic designs for yet another USB loader, but this time it works
via the IOP, not the EE :P.  I still have to sit down and test whether or
not the USB registers can be enabled/accessed when the PS2 IOP is running
in compatibility mode.  I'm stuck on developing the IOP-side (only) USB
stack, as I'm using my original PSX (!) for development (of the basic UI -
nothing fancy, but I need it to dump and tell me if the USB port is active,
and if so, what's on it :P).

M. R.

Re: [ps2hacking-devel] Who is running this show?

[now3d <n3...@an...>]

"M. R. Brown" wrote:
> 
> > *We* should be aiming for our own GPL bootloader that supports booting
> > from USB(pc), memcard, USB ethernet, and HDD, unless everyone wants to
> > use your NFS approach? Otherwise everyone will remain dependent on
> > Sony's propriety elements. Rather like developing Linux on a Sun machine
> > :)
> >
> 
> I agree with you violently here.  First we need a bit more info on hardware
> internals, hopefully folks will stay on the path of reverse-engineering.

I may take up the challenge and do some work on this.

> Different note: are there any clues as to how Datel/InterAct mass-produce
> valid PSX and PS2 CD's ?  This has always puzzled me to no end - does
> anyone out there (privately or publically) have any info/insights into
> this?


The Playstation 1 protection method is well known, PS2 is still a
mystery to most people but if your interested check sonys' patents in
this area..

now3d

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