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#77 vertical scrolling with mouse
Using the mouse wheel results in horizontal scrolling which is different from other applications. One expects vertical scrolling when using the wheel without modifiers and horizontal scrolling when 'Shift' is pressed.
So beside using the vertical scrollbar I have not found any other way to scroll with the mouse.
The Gantt chart in project management is different than a word document which wraps. The nature of the critical path methodology means the tasks tend to sequentially extend to the right. This makes scrolling horizontally a very important characteristic. You don't require that with a word document. You are correct though....
it's happen to me too. i use version 1.6.2. it's true if you see from your perspective, but like mattrazzo state the rest of the world expect the ability to scroll down. even microsoft project do so
You can scroll up and down by Function and down arrow or Function and Up arrow. We will be changing our spreadsheet but it is a major effort to "rip and replace" the spreadsheet. It is not a bug but how the current spreadsheet operates. Again, use the FN and UP/Down arrows.
I understand from your statement that horizontal scrolling is more important then vertical scrolling. But then Shift again should be used to temp. switch to vertical scrolling.
What comes in my mind is a configuration setting which allows me to define whether Shift is needed for vertical or horizontal scrolling.
While the developer's preferences are interesting, intuitiveness reins. The rest of the world expects the ability to vertically scroll with the mouse since 1995. It seems like a straightforward implementation (from an outsider developer standpoint), and one as basic as the ability to save and print a file.
https://sourceforge.net/p/projectlibre/tickets/130/
When you scroll on a Gantt chart it does move to the right. If you want to find a task far out in the future you can also use the "Scroll to Task" icon.
If you want to have it scroll the spreadsheet vertically: use Function and dwn or up this scrolls up and down the spreadsheet rows.
How was this a thing back in 2013 and still not fixed now?
if i want to scroll horizontally i will use the horizontal wheel or i will hold down shift. This is the way every other bit of software in the universe works. if you find this fundimentally offensive then how about you let me vertically scroll when my pointer is over the right side of the chart rather than requiring that i find the tiny target zone of a scroll bar when I want to go up and down. After all, the reason we have scroll wheels is that it is massivly inconvenient and annoying to go find the scrollbar whenever we want to move.
Last edit: Jason Harrison 2022-02-18
You can scroll up and down by Function and down arrow or Function and Up arrow. We will be changing our spreadsheet but it is a major effort to "rip and replace" the spreadsheet. It is not a bug but how the current spreadsheet operates. Again, use the FN and UP/Down arrows.
you do know everyone has a shift key on thier keyboard right? even if you made the default behaviour the catagorically wrong one, you could allow access to the other scroll direction while the user is holding the shift key. This could also have a setting somewhere so the user could select which direction is the correct default direction. You could also do A/B testing and log how many people change the default to the other way around.
I know you do all this for free. have you ever considered putting feature requests up for randsome? I personally would donate 100euro to get this sorted.
No vertical mouse scroll is an affront.
To use FN+up & FN+down , one has to take hands off trackball or mouse, or both, in my case. FN+up & FN+down leaps entire 'page'(s) at a time', * these FN keys don't scroll.
* disorienting.
Doubtless the use case for horiz. scrolling at some later phase, after setting up a project.
Two things make the 'vertically predisposed' use-case of
initially entering and re-ordering and arranging ('in/outdent'-ing) tasks obstacular:
1) No ability to select a task line and simply drag it up or down, inclusive of deeper or shallower.
Presently, to change task(s) position in the list,
one has to create a blank target space, then cut, then paste, then repair the place left blank;
... this is moving 'at spreadsheet speed'.
2.) Horizontal scrolling only.
Secondary mouse selection over a task line is already in use by a pop-up task context menu
'shift', 'alt/ctl', 'cmd' &/or a (baroque) 'toggle' between H & V mouse scrolling mode, or both.
DNRY does not apply in UI. Give people as many ways as you can think of to hasten their use of the package. Setting up (perhaps hundreds or more ... of) tasks initially in ProjectLibre would benefit from v. scrolling or any sort beyond selection then driving the mouse off the edge of the page.
Required selection(s) necessary to move task(s) presently
also make tasks vulnerable to unintended change.
Plenty of ever-persistent developer-perspectives confound usability now for millions (billions) of people. Neglecting smartphones entirely, the ubiquitous prevalent default behavior for insert for copy/cut and paste, insert using source instead of target format, where a shift or ctl modifier is required to reverse the sense to paste using the surrounding target formatting, is but one outstanding example. Some 'my app is my whole world' apps e.g. Blender, 3D CAD packages, etc. go totally overboard imposing immense cognitive burdens just to learn their hot-key sets.
Project management such as it is being a discipline, the option would seem to be a balance between 'expected' mouse behavior along the lines of mass market-apps, or 'mimicking' any 'convention' among PM packages WRT this issue of scrolling during task entry, re-ordering, and attending to task details, etc. Curiously in the B. and 3D CAD space no 'convention' prevails - each package imposes it's own babel of UI conventions as though it was the only one people would ever have to learn, or use.
I really like the functios of projectlibre, but its usage is really untypical, hard to learn and the shift option for vertical scrolling would be great !
This is the biggest drawback so far to project libre.
Scrolling up down is used MUCH more than horizontally.
the option for us to set which way we scroll would be ideal.
This feature alone will make me need to find another product.