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#79 Using an IWAD as a resource WAD

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2013-05-10
2013-02-06
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Hi,

it should be possible to use e.g. doom1.wad as a resource for a doom2 IWAD, e.g. freedoom.
When run via "prboom-plus -iwad freedoom.wad -file doom1.wad" I am greeted with doom1.wad's title screen and then prboom-plus crashes. I have to add another Doom 2 PWAD to the "-file" parameter for it to work, e.g. "prboom-plus -iwad freedoom.wad -file doom1.wad av.wad". However, I think the former case should work, too, replacing everything from freedoom.wad that is also present in doom1.wad.

The issue is discussed here:
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/source-ports/62754-using-doom1-wad-shareware-doom-as-a-resource-pwad/

- Fabian

Discussion

  • Fabian Greffrath

    BTW, the other way round, i.e. "prboom+ -iwad doom1.wad -file freedoom.wad" seems to work fine. I can play the shareware episode with all content replaced by freedoom's.

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    Hm, I think the whole issue boils down to: "Never consider a WAD passed to the -file parameter as an IWAD."
    What do you think?

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    > "Never consider a WAD passed to the -file parameter as an IWAD."

    Na, it's not that easy. I just turned DOOM.WAD forcefully into a PWAD by changing its first byte to 'P', but it still does not work as expected. :/

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    > Na, it's not that easy. I just turned DOOM.WAD forcefully into a PWAD by
    > changing its first byte to 'P', but it still does not work as expected. :/

    Turns out it has to do with incompatible TEXTURE1 and TEXTURE2 lumps (and PNAMES) between Doom 2 and Shareware Doom.

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    Alright, I got it: We simply need to prevent PWADs from overriding the IWAD's TEXTURE1 and PNAMES lumps. I tried the attached patch/hack with the following command "prboom-plus -iwad freedoom -file doom1" and it worked as expected: It runs Freedoom and each patch/sprite/whatever got replaced by the version in doom1.wad; lumps not present in the shareware WAD were taken from the Freedoom WAD instead.

    I know, the patch is just a hack and it would be better to introduce cummulative TEXTURE1 and PNAMES lumps, but it does its job at least for the requested use case.

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    Prevent PWADs from overriding the IWAD's TEXTURE1 and PNAMES lumps

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    Check if the resource PWAD is really an IWAD, simplified lump name check

     
  • Nobody/Anonymous

    *Friendly Weekly Patch Reminder [tm]* ;)

    Does this have a chance? If not, what's missing?

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    Next patch revision: Instead of skipping the lumps in question, simply rename them so they are ignored by the game. This way, the patch works independently of the order in which the resource IWAD, e.g. doom1.wad, and additional PWADS are loaded on the commend line.

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    Rename the affected lumps instead of skipping them

     
  • Andrey Budko

    Andrey Budko - 2013-04-23

    Are there any known issues with the latest patch?

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    None that I have found yet. The only theoretical issue occurs if you include another PWAD that intentionally ships a lump called "-IGNORE-".

     
  • Andrey Budko

    Andrey Budko - 2013-04-23

    i don't believe that the such small patch could fix the issue :)

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    i don't believe that the such small patch could fix the issue :)

    Please, try the patch and see for yourself that it works. ;)

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    Are there any known issues with the latest patch?

    There is another possible issue:
    Because of the !strncmp() test, the code does not work for IWADs that do not declare themselves as such. TTBOMK this does only affect DOOM.WAD and DOOM2.WAD from the Doom 3 BFG Edition and CHEX.WAD. The latter has never been intended to be a full replacement IWAD, e.g. it is missing sprites for most of the higher monsters. And owners of the former do already have both full games and most probably don't need that code anyway. We could also drop that test, but I am not sure if there aren't any PWADs out there that purposely contain full replacements for the TEXTURE1 and PNAMES lumps?

     
  • Fabian Greffrath

    Please, try the patch and see for yourself that it works. ;)

    cough

     
  • Andrey Budko

    Andrey Budko - 2013-05-10

    i can't check it right now, sorry. probably within next week

     

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