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From: Mason S. <ma...@st...> - 2012-07-08 16:13:11
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For those in the New York area, I wanted to let you know that I will be doing a presentation about Postgres-XC on Thursday July 12th: http://www.nycpug.org/events/70817202/ There is a waiting list, but we will try and find a solution to accommodate everyone. -- Mason Sharp StormDB - http://www.stormdb.com The Database Cloud |
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From: Koichi S. <koi...@gm...> - 2012-07-09 00:31:41
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Thank you Mason. I have no problem to reuse. Because we have Michael ans Ashutosh as co-author, you may need to get their consent. Also, it may be better to leave original author's names in the material. Regards; ---------- Koichi Suzuki 2012/7/9 Mason Sharp <ma...@st...>: > For those in the New York area, I wanted to let you know that I will > be doing a presentation about Postgres-XC on Thursday July 12th: > > http://www.nycpug.org/events/70817202/ > > There is a waiting list, but we will try and find a solution to > accommodate everyone. > > -- > Mason Sharp > > StormDB - http://www.stormdb.com > The Database Cloud > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Postgres-xc-general mailing list > Pos...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/postgres-xc-general |
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From: Mason S. <ma...@st...> - 2012-07-10 14:44:29
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On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Koichi Suzuki <koi...@gm...> wrote: > Thank you Mason. > > I have no problem to reuse. Because we have Michael ans Ashutosh as > co-author, you may need to get their consent. Also, it may be better > to leave original author's names in the material. Thank you. I think if I leverage the existing XC material it will make for a better presentation. I had assumed these were free to use and modify, so I am glad you pointed that out. I personally don't mind anyone taking the material that I created from other downloadable presentations I contributed to and reusing and modifying. Perhaps we can add a Creative Commons license on ones where the other contributors are ok with it. Michael, Ashutosh, please let me know if you have any objections, and if you do not wish for me to use any of your XC material. Of course, I am more than happy to do Creative Commons-like attribution. > > Regards; > ---------- > Koichi Suzuki > > > 2012/7/9 Mason Sharp <ma...@st...>: >> For those in the New York area, I wanted to let you know that I will >> be doing a presentation about Postgres-XC on Thursday July 12th: >> >> http://www.nycpug.org/events/70817202/ >> >> There is a waiting list, but we will try and find a solution to >> accommodate everyone. >> -- Mason Sharp StormDB - http://www.stormdb.com The Database Cloud |
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From: Michael P. <mic...@gm...> - 2012-07-11 02:06:14
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Mason Sharp <ma...@st...> wrote: > Thank you. I think if I leverage the existing XC material it will make > for a better presentation. I had assumed these were free to use and > modify, so I am glad you pointed that out. I personally don't mind > anyone taking the material that I created from other downloadable > presentations I contributed to and reusing and modifying. Perhaps we > can add a Creative Commons license on ones where the other > contributors are ok with it. > My contribution is under the license "Don't mind as long as those documents stay in public domain". So you can reuse and modify it as you wish. If you can also create an improved document, well we could also add in in dedicated section inside source forge folders. For the license CreativeCommons, well smth like this looks OK (non-commercial, allow modification): This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/> . Adding a non-commercial clause also makes sense because even if XC is BSD-based, its documents should exclusively stay in public domain => so no commercial use. Michael, Ashutosh, please let me know if you have any objections, and > if you do not wish for me to use any of your XC material. Of course, I > am more than happy to do Creative Commons-like attribution. > As long as the non-commercial clause is in, I am OK. -- Michael Paquier http://michael.otacoo.com |
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From: Koichi S. <koi...@gm...> - 2012-07-11 02:08:06
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Thanks. Creative commons 3.0 looks nice for us. ---------- Koichi Suzuki 2012/7/11 Michael Paquier <mic...@gm...>: > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Mason Sharp <ma...@st...> wrote: >> >> Thank you. I think if I leverage the existing XC material it will make >> for a better presentation. I had assumed these were free to use and >> modify, so I am glad you pointed that out. I personally don't mind >> anyone taking the material that I created from other downloadable >> presentations I contributed to and reusing and modifying. Perhaps we >> can add a Creative Commons license on ones where the other >> contributors are ok with it. > > My contribution is under the license "Don't mind as long as those documents > stay in public domain". > So you can reuse and modify it as you wish. If you can also create an > improved document, well we could also > add in in dedicated section inside source forge folders. > For the license CreativeCommons, well smth like this looks OK > (non-commercial, allow modification): > This work is licensed under a Creative Commons > Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. > Adding a non-commercial clause also makes sense because even if XC is > BSD-based, its documents should exclusively stay in public domain => so no > commercial use. > >> Michael, Ashutosh, please let me know if you have any objections, and >> if you do not wish for me to use any of your XC material. Of course, I >> am more than happy to do Creative Commons-like attribution. > > As long as the non-commercial clause is in, I am OK. > -- > Michael Paquier > http://michael.otacoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Postgres-xc-general mailing list > Pos...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/postgres-xc-general > |
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From: Michael P. <mic...@gm...> - 2012-07-11 02:10:29
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Koichi Suzuki <koi...@gm...>wrote: > Thanks. Creative commons 3.0 looks nice for us. > There are many kinds of 3.0 versions, as each license is defined by 3 conditions which are: - attribution - commercial aspect - share So we should definitely be precise to avoid any problems in the future. > ---------- > Koichi Suzuki > > > 2012/7/11 Michael Paquier <mic...@gm...>: > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Mason Sharp <ma...@st...> wrote: > >> > >> Thank you. I think if I leverage the existing XC material it will make > >> for a better presentation. I had assumed these were free to use and > >> modify, so I am glad you pointed that out. I personally don't mind > >> anyone taking the material that I created from other downloadable > >> presentations I contributed to and reusing and modifying. Perhaps we > >> can add a Creative Commons license on ones where the other > >> contributors are ok with it. > > > > My contribution is under the license "Don't mind as long as those > documents > > stay in public domain". > > So you can reuse and modify it as you wish. If you can also create an > > improved document, well we could also > > add in in dedicated section inside source forge folders. > > For the license CreativeCommons, well smth like this looks OK > > (non-commercial, allow modification): > > This work is licensed under a Creative Commons > > Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. > > Adding a non-commercial clause also makes sense because even if XC is > > BSD-based, its documents should exclusively stay in public domain => so > no > > commercial use. > > > >> Michael, Ashutosh, please let me know if you have any objections, and > >> if you do not wish for me to use any of your XC material. Of course, I > >> am more than happy to do Creative Commons-like attribution. > > > > As long as the non-commercial clause is in, I am OK. > > -- > > Michael Paquier > > http://michael.otacoo.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Live Security Virtual Conference > > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Postgres-xc-general mailing list > > Pos...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/postgres-xc-general > > > -- Michael Paquier http://michael.otacoo.com |
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From: Ashutosh B. <ash...@en...> - 2012-07-11 04:13:19
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Mason Sharp <ma...@st...> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Koichi Suzuki <koi...@gm...> > wrote: > > Thank you Mason. > > > > I have no problem to reuse. Because we have Michael ans Ashutosh as > > co-author, you may need to get their consent. Also, it may be better > > to leave original author's names in the material. > > Thank you. I think if I leverage the existing XC material it will make > for a better presentation. I had assumed these were free to use and > modify, so I am glad you pointed that out. I personally don't mind > anyone taking the material that I created from other downloadable > presentations I contributed to and reusing and modifying. Perhaps we > can add a Creative Commons license on ones where the other > contributors are ok with it. > > Michael, Ashutosh, please let me know if you have any objections, and > if you do not wish for me to use any of your XC material. Of course, I > am more than happy to do Creative Commons-like attribution. > > I am fine with using or modifying those slides as long as you reference original authors. Please contribute your presentation back to the community, if possible. > > > > > Regards; > > ---------- > > Koichi Suzuki > > > > > > 2012/7/9 Mason Sharp <ma...@st...>: > >> For those in the New York area, I wanted to let you know that I will > >> be doing a presentation about Postgres-XC on Thursday July 12th: > >> > >> http://www.nycpug.org/events/70817202/ > >> > >> There is a waiting list, but we will try and find a solution to > >> accommodate everyone. > >> > > -- > Mason Sharp > > StormDB - http://www.stormdb.com > The Database Cloud > -- Best Wishes, Ashutosh Bapat EntepriseDB Corporation The Enterprise Postgres Company |
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From: Koichi S. <koi...@gm...> - 2012-07-11 07:46:25
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I believe we can share all the output as well. Creative Commons 3.0 allows it. ---------- Koichi Suzuki 2012/7/11 Ashutosh Bapat <ash...@en...>: > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Mason Sharp <ma...@st...> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Koichi Suzuki <koi...@gm...> >> wrote: >> > Thank you Mason. >> > >> > I have no problem to reuse. Because we have Michael ans Ashutosh as >> > co-author, you may need to get their consent. Also, it may be better >> > to leave original author's names in the material. >> >> Thank you. I think if I leverage the existing XC material it will make >> for a better presentation. I had assumed these were free to use and >> modify, so I am glad you pointed that out. I personally don't mind >> anyone taking the material that I created from other downloadable >> presentations I contributed to and reusing and modifying. Perhaps we >> can add a Creative Commons license on ones where the other >> contributors are ok with it. >> >> Michael, Ashutosh, please let me know if you have any objections, and >> if you do not wish for me to use any of your XC material. Of course, I >> am more than happy to do Creative Commons-like attribution. >> > > I am fine with using or modifying those slides as long as you reference > original authors. Please contribute your presentation back to the community, > if possible. > >> >> >> > >> > Regards; >> > ---------- >> > Koichi Suzuki >> > >> > >> > 2012/7/9 Mason Sharp <ma...@st...>: >> >> For those in the New York area, I wanted to let you know that I will >> >> be doing a presentation about Postgres-XC on Thursday July 12th: >> >> >> >> http://www.nycpug.org/events/70817202/ >> >> >> >> There is a waiting list, but we will try and find a solution to >> >> accommodate everyone. >> >> >> >> -- >> Mason Sharp >> >> StormDB - http://www.stormdb.com >> The Database Cloud > > > > > -- > Best Wishes, > Ashutosh Bapat > EntepriseDB Corporation > The Enterprise Postgres Company > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Postgres-xc-general mailing list > Pos...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/postgres-xc-general > |
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From: Pavan D. <pav...@gm...> - 2012-07-11 04:24:13
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Ashutosh Bapat < ash...@en...> wrote: > > > I am fine with using or modifying those slides as long as you reference > original authors. Please contribute your presentation back to the > community, if possible. > > I think we should probably leave it to the presenter to decide whether to credit the author or not. This is so because it might be hard at times to know who the original author is. For example, I am looking at these slides: http://ignum.dl.sourceforge.net/project/postgres-xc/Presentation/201111_OSIDays_Bangalore/Postgres-XC_in_OSI.pdf Even though the first slide has Ashutosh's name, I seriously doubt if he is the orignal author of those slides. At least 90% of the content is authored by Mason or Suzuki-san or me or may be someone else. This may or may not be true with other presentations, but then someone needs to really look at those all presentations and mark appropriate credits. Till then, attributing the Development Group might be the right way forward. Thanks, Pavan |
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From: Michael P. <mic...@gm...> - 2012-07-11 04:30:11
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Pavan Deolasee <pav...@gm...>wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Ashutosh Bapat < > ash...@en...> wrote: > >> >> >> I am fine with using or modifying those slides as long as you reference >> original authors. Please contribute your presentation back to the >> community, if possible. >> >> > > I think we should probably leave it to the presenter to decide whether to > credit the author or not. This is so because it might be hard at times to > know who the original author is. For example, I am looking at these slides: > > http://ignum.dl.sourceforge.net/project/postgres-xc/Presentation/201111_OSIDays_Bangalore/Postgres-XC_in_OSI.pdf > > Even though the first slide has Ashutosh's name, I seriously doubt if he > is the orignal author of those slides. At least 90% of the content is > authored by Mason or Suzuki-san or me or may be someone else. This may or > may not be true with other presentations, but then someone needs to really > look at those all presentations and mark appropriate credits. Till then, > attributing the Development Group might be the right way forward. > +1. -- Michael Paquier http://michael.otacoo.com |
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From: Nikhil S. <ni...@st...> - 2012-07-11 12:55:08
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>> I think we should probably leave it to the presenter to decide whether to >> credit the author or not. This is so because it might be hard at times to >> know who the original author is. For example, I am looking at these slides: >> >> http://ignum.dl.sourceforge.net/project/postgres-xc/Presentation/201111_OSIDays_Bangalore/Postgres-XC_in_OSI.pdf >> >> Even though the first slide has Ashutosh's name, I seriously doubt if he >> is the orignal author of those slides. At least 90% of the content is >> authored by Mason or Suzuki-san or me or may be someone else. This may or >> may not be true with other presentations, but then someone needs to really >> look at those all presentations and mark appropriate credits. Till then, >> attributing the Development Group might be the right way forward. > > +1. Very good points Pavan. +1 for the Development Group attribution. Regards, Nikhils -- StormDB - http://www.stormdb.com The Database Cloud |
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From: Mason S. <ma...@st...> - 2012-07-11 20:16:28
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Pavan Deolasee <pav...@gm...> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Ashutosh Bapat > <ash...@en...> wrote: >> >> >> >> I am fine with using or modifying those slides as long as you reference >> original authors. Please contribute your presentation back to the community, >> if possible. >> > > > I think we should probably leave it to the presenter to decide whether to > credit the author or not. This is so because it might be hard at times to > know who the original author is. For example, I am looking at these slides: > http://ignum.dl.sourceforge.net/project/postgres-xc/Presentation/201111_OSIDays_Bangalore/Postgres-XC_in_OSI.pdf > > Even though the first slide has Ashutosh's name, I seriously doubt if he is > the orignal author of those slides. At least 90% of the content is authored > by Mason or Suzuki-san or me or may be someone else. This may or may not be > true with other presentations, but then someone needs to really look at > those all presentations and mark appropriate credits. Till then, attributing > the Development Group might be the right way forward. > I think content has been updated, or based on old slides presented in a nicer format, etc. so I can't lay claim to that one, it looks Suzuki-san heavily-influenced I would guess, but point taken. > Thanks, > Pavan -- Mason Sharp StormDB - http://www.stormdb.com The Database Cloud |
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From: Michael P. <mic...@gm...> - 2012-07-11 23:37:59
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 5:16 AM, Mason Sharp <ma...@st...> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Pavan Deolasee > <pav...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Ashutosh Bapat > > <ash...@en...> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> I am fine with using or modifying those slides as long as you reference > >> original authors. Please contribute your presentation back to the > community, > >> if possible. > >> > > > > > > I think we should probably leave it to the presenter to decide whether to > > credit the author or not. This is so because it might be hard at times to > > know who the original author is. For example, I am looking at these > slides: > > > http://ignum.dl.sourceforge.net/project/postgres-xc/Presentation/201111_OSIDays_Bangalore/Postgres-XC_in_OSI.pdf > > > > Even though the first slide has Ashutosh's name, I seriously doubt if he > is > > the orignal author of those slides. At least 90% of the content is > authored > > by Mason or Suzuki-san or me or may be someone else. This may or may not > be > > true with other presentations, but then someone needs to really look at > > those all presentations and mark appropriate credits. Till then, > attributing > > the Development Group might be the right way forward. > > > > I think content has been updated, or based on old slides presented in > a nicer format, etc. so I can't lay claim to that one, it looks > Suzuki-san heavily-influenced I would guess, but point taken. > Kind of... Kind of... -- Michael Paquier http://michael.otacoo.com |
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