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From: Mason S. <ma...@st...> - 2012-07-31 12:29:35
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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Michael Paquier <mic...@gm...> wrote: >> I'd like to repeat this truth alone and together with You, but what about >> rac? > All the nodes in rac are replicated. > It provides good read scalability but sucks when write in involved. > > >> What I mean exactly is to remove "DISTRIBUTE BY" from "CREATE TABLE" >> statement and add distribution type to data node property as a field to >> pgxc_node table, for example. > Thanks for this precision. > There are several cons against that: > - it is not possible to define a distribution key based on a column > - it is not possible to define range partitioning, column partitioning > - the list of nodes is still needed in CREATE TABLE > - PostgreSQL supports basic table partitioning with DDL => > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/ddl-partitioning.html. We have > been thinking for a long time now to move our paritioning code deeper in > postgres and extend it for range a column partitioning. A node-based method > will definitely stop the possibility of such an extension integrated with > postgres. Vladimir, just agreeing with Michael, and that the above points are important for performance. > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Vladimir Stavrinov <vst...@gm...> > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Vladimir Stavrinov >> <vst...@gm...> wrote: >> >> > I see only way to provide read & write LB simultaneously if replication >> > will be done asynchronously in background process. This way we should >> > have a distributed database as main stock accomplished with numbers of >> > replicated nodes containing complete data. In such system read requests >> > should go to replicated nodes only when they are up to day (at least for >> > requested data). Asynchronous updates in such architect should support >> > LB for write requests to distributed nodes, which should remain >> > synchronous. > > It is written in XC definition that it is a synchronous multi-master. > Doing that in asynchronous way would break that, and also this way you > cannot guarantee at 100% that the data replicated on 1 node will be there on > other nodes. > This is an extremely important characteristic of mission-critical > applications. > >> >> >> Such architect allow to create totally automated and complete LB & HA >> cluster without any third party helpers. If one of the distributed >> (shark) nodes fails, it should be automatically replaced (failover) >> with one of the up to date replicated nodes. > > This can be also achieved with postgres streaming replication naturally > available in XC. > -- > Michael Paquier > http://michael.otacoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > _______________________________________________ > Postgres-xc-general mailing list > Pos...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/postgres-xc-general > -- Mason Sharp StormDB - http://www.stormdb.com The Database Cloud |