The POPFile developers are hard at work on v0.23.0 which will be a major changes from v0.22.0 as we introduce multi-user POPFile with user accounts and logins and separate corpuses.
One of the options under consideration is changing/dropping the existing skins. The UI is changing a lot and this seems like a good moment to get rid of things we aren't using and therefore don't want to waste time maintaining.
So, I'd like your votes on which of these skins to keep:
blue
coolblue
coolbrown
coolgreen
coolorange
coolyellow
default
glassblue
green
klingon
lavish
lavishImages
lrclaptop
new
oceanblue
orange
orangecream
osx
outlook
prjbluegrey
prjsteelbeach
simplyblue
sleet
sleetImages
sleet-rtl
smalldefault
smallgrey
strawberryrose
tinydefault
tinygrey
white
windows
John.
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This vote has caused me to examine the options that are there. These are my personal choices. Please don't anyone take offense.
Not having examined all the options, I have been reasonably happy using blue though it is a bit on the dark side. When you decide which to retain, I'll probably change from blue to one of these after changing my color palette:
default (It looks pretty good.)
orange (intriguing)
simplyblue
smalldefault (not as my default skin but for special purposes)
I would prefer not to use any of these though some have interesting features:
blue (too dark)
coolbrown
coolorange
coolyellow
irclaptop (Slightly inferior to default - both font size and font style)
oceanblue (Interesting inovations but eats up screen width for the tabs)
outlook
prjbluegrey (Fonts are too large)
sleet (an interesting format for the tabs)
sleet-rtl
smallgrey
tinydefault
tinygrey
I would not use any of these if I had any other choice:
coolblue
coolgreen
glassblue
green (black is not readable on an even row background)
klingon (someone's nightmare)
lavish (I like the tabs but nothing else)
osx
prjsteelbeach
strawberryrose (Good button implementation but garish colors)
white
windows
The best skin for me, based on what I've seen, is a blend that has styled tabs like in lavish, buttons that shift color when hovered over like default and some others, different colors for the TurnOn and TurnOff buttons like strawberryrose and smallgrey, highlighting selected rows like in oceanblue, and soft colors on the blue side of bluegreen.
Q: Are all the old skins being made unusable by v0.23.x unless they are upgraded?
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Jim
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Skins from 0.22 will be mostly useable but parts of the UI may not display well. Mainly the new config bar at this point, but there may be some other UI changes that will affect skins.
I am not offended that my skins, Windows and OceanBlue, are not on your favorites list. No skin can be for everyone, thats why there are lots. Its just getting to be a bit too many to maintain and needs to be cut back a little.
Even I dislike the wasted screen width of OceanBlue and always figured I would not use it much, but it has turned out to be the skin I use most.
Let me know what you don't like about my skins and maybe they can be improved or a future skin can use your input. You mention some about your ideal skin. Describe it more if there is anything else to add.
And anyone else feel free to let me know what kind of things you like in certain skins and what colors. For the skins you vote for say way you like them. I am not going to do any one person's ideal skin, if they really want it skinning is not very hard to learn. But I will try to use what ideas come up the next time I get interested in doing a new skin and find the time.
You mentioned you like the styled tabs of Lavish. By that do you mean the background images used or just that the selected tab is a different color? The tabs on that skin are stuck at a set width because of the image so may not work well with some languages where the tab name can get long. But there are ways to do similar things. OceanBlue already has a lot of the work done that could be converted to use images.
You also mentioned you liked the buttons that shift color when hovered over like in the Default skin. That only seems to happen in Opera. It is a nice feature. It appears that if the skin gives a color for the button then the color won't change when hovered. I don't know if there is a way around that other than not coloring the buttons.
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Given that this thread is intended for voting, I will take the discussion of skin details to the Bleeding Edge - UI forum in the next day or two. I look forward to that discussion.
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Jim
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I don't want to fill up John's voting thread with extra stuff either, but be sure to leave a direct link here. The more discussion we get the better skins we can end up with.
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After using cooblue and simplyblue, I have now found that orangecream is idael for my use.
It give good contrast and therefore easy readung for asll the bucket colours I use, in fact fro most bucket colours available.
Some of the other skins make reading bucket name ad statistics very dificult, not that I check my statistics very often.
I like a lot of serious uses have a many buckets (25) and therefor the abilty to use most of the bucket colours is importent.
Norman
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While these skins look fine on my machine, other skins look better on other machines because of differences in monitor resolution, refresh rate, etc
Taken as a whole, the skin library is a great collection of alternatives, and I always know that one or more skins will look good on any machine I'm asked to install popfile on, but I've yet to find one skin that looks good on all machines. The loss of this variety would be sad. Any possibility of voting for which to discard rather than which to keep? Perhaps its easier to agree
on those that are never used, and in the process preserve some of the variety.
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We aren't looking to get rid of a lot of skins so there will be a lot of choice left. Currently there are 29 skins and several of them probably rarely get used.
Some users have listed what skins they would never use so you can do that too if you want, just make it clear that those are ones you don't want so counting the votes doesn't get too complicated.
But also to tell us which ones you really want to keep. That not only tells us which ones to keep, but will help guide development of future skins.
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Folks,
The POPFile developers are hard at work on v0.23.0 which will be a major changes from v0.22.0 as we introduce multi-user POPFile with user accounts and logins and separate corpuses.
One of the options under consideration is changing/dropping the existing skins. The UI is changing a lot and this seems like a good moment to get rid of things we aren't using and therefore don't want to waste time maintaining.
So, I'd like your votes on which of these skins to keep:
blue
coolblue
coolbrown
coolgreen
coolorange
coolyellow
default
glassblue
green
klingon
lavish
lavishImages
lrclaptop
new
oceanblue
orange
orangecream
osx
outlook
prjbluegrey
prjsteelbeach
simplyblue
sleet
sleetImages
sleet-rtl
smalldefault
smallgrey
strawberryrose
tinydefault
tinygrey
white
windows
John.
I vote to keep the current (v.22.2) default skin and maybe Simplyblue. Those are they all want I can remember using lately.
I am using tinygrey.
I only use smalldefault, would hate to see that go.
I like the following:
coolblue
coolgreen
glassblue
lavish
oceanblue
simplyblue
windows
Michael
I like simplyblue and oceanblue.
simplyblue
lrclaptop
simplyblue
This vote has caused me to examine the options that are there. These are my personal choices. Please don't anyone take offense.
Not having examined all the options, I have been reasonably happy using blue though it is a bit on the dark side. When you decide which to retain, I'll probably change from blue to one of these after changing my color palette:
default (It looks pretty good.)
orange (intriguing)
simplyblue
smalldefault (not as my default skin but for special purposes)
I would prefer not to use any of these though some have interesting features:
blue (too dark)
coolbrown
coolorange
coolyellow
irclaptop (Slightly inferior to default - both font size and font style)
oceanblue (Interesting inovations but eats up screen width for the tabs)
outlook
prjbluegrey (Fonts are too large)
sleet (an interesting format for the tabs)
sleet-rtl
smallgrey
tinydefault
tinygrey
I would not use any of these if I had any other choice:
coolblue
coolgreen
glassblue
green (black is not readable on an even row background)
klingon (someone's nightmare)
lavish (I like the tabs but nothing else)
osx
prjsteelbeach
strawberryrose (Good button implementation but garish colors)
white
windows
The best skin for me, based on what I've seen, is a blend that has styled tabs like in lavish, buttons that shift color when hovered over like default and some others, different colors for the TurnOn and TurnOff buttons like strawberryrose and smallgrey, highlighting selected rows like in oceanblue, and soft colors on the blue side of bluegreen.
Q: Are all the old skins being made unusable by v0.23.x unless they are upgraded?
--
Jim
Skins from 0.22 will be mostly useable but parts of the UI may not display well. Mainly the new config bar at this point, but there may be some other UI changes that will affect skins.
I am not offended that my skins, Windows and OceanBlue, are not on your favorites list. No skin can be for everyone, thats why there are lots. Its just getting to be a bit too many to maintain and needs to be cut back a little.
Even I dislike the wasted screen width of OceanBlue and always figured I would not use it much, but it has turned out to be the skin I use most.
Let me know what you don't like about my skins and maybe they can be improved or a future skin can use your input. You mention some about your ideal skin. Describe it more if there is anything else to add.
And anyone else feel free to let me know what kind of things you like in certain skins and what colors. For the skins you vote for say way you like them. I am not going to do any one person's ideal skin, if they really want it skinning is not very hard to learn. But I will try to use what ideas come up the next time I get interested in doing a new skin and find the time.
You mentioned you like the styled tabs of Lavish. By that do you mean the background images used or just that the selected tab is a different color? The tabs on that skin are stuck at a set width because of the image so may not work well with some languages where the tab name can get long. But there are ways to do similar things. OceanBlue already has a lot of the work done that could be converted to use images.
You also mentioned you liked the buttons that shift color when hovered over like in the Default skin. That only seems to happen in Opera. It is a nice feature. It appears that if the skin gives a color for the button then the color won't change when hovered. I don't know if there is a way around that other than not coloring the buttons.
Joseph,
Given that this thread is intended for voting, I will take the discussion of skin details to the Bleeding Edge - UI forum in the next day or two. I look forward to that discussion.
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Jim
I don't want to fill up John's voting thread with extra stuff either, but be sure to leave a direct link here. The more discussion we get the better skins we can end up with.
Perhaps an online poll would have been an easier way to do this? It certainly would have resulted in less email traffic. :^)
Michael
I have copied Joseph's initial response to my vote as the first message in https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1211839&forum_id=248759
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Jim
Simplyblue.
Regards,
-K.
Smallgrey: simple, easy on the eye, good font size for 1280 x 1024, nothing garish. Please don't discard it!
Brian
After using cooblue and simplyblue, I have now found that orangecream is idael for my use.
It give good contrast and therefore easy readung for asll the bucket colours I use, in fact fro most bucket colours available.
Some of the other skins make reading bucket name ad statistics very dificult, not that I check my statistics very often.
I like a lot of serious uses have a many buckets (25) and therefor the abilty to use most of the bucket colours is importent.
Norman
I'm using lrclaptop.
Naoki
I only use tinydefault, please keep it :)
My vote is for the small default skin.
Gene
I used to use "tinydefault". Currently I am using "windows". I like both.
Junya
Sleet is my favourite - I use it on 2 computers! That count as two votes - right?
Cheers.
The Brit
I believe John is also brittish--and his vote counts more than twice. :)
Cheers.
Michael
coolblue
glassblue
sleet
windows
While these skins look fine on my machine, other skins look better on other machines because of differences in monitor resolution, refresh rate, etc
Taken as a whole, the skin library is a great collection of alternatives, and I always know that one or more skins will look good on any machine I'm asked to install popfile on, but I've yet to find one skin that looks good on all machines. The loss of this variety would be sad. Any possibility of voting for which to discard rather than which to keep? Perhaps its easier to agree
on those that are never used, and in the process preserve some of the variety.
We aren't looking to get rid of a lot of skins so there will be a lot of choice left. Currently there are 29 skins and several of them probably rarely get used.
Some users have listed what skins they would never use so you can do that too if you want, just make it clear that those are ones you don't want so counting the votes doesn't get too complicated.
But also to tell us which ones you really want to keep. That not only tells us which ones to keep, but will help guide development of future skins.