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[Pokersource-users] texas holdem calculation/evaluation

[<guy...@gm...>]

Hi all,

I'm quite a newbie with this stuff. I played with the examples, but
I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the functionality which is there. I't
partly also because i'm not all that familiar with all the poker
jargon out there :)

Anyway, this is what I'd like to do:

I'd like to pass it my first pre-flop 2 cards(perhaps also the number
of players?), and it should give me some sort of odds statistics.

Then repeat this for every fase-> flop, turn, river including these
cards into the equation as well.

Which functions do I need to do this?

btw Is it also possible to calculate pott odds?

Thanx,

--
Guyon Mor=E9e
guy...@gm...
http://gumuz.looze.net

[Pokersource-users] texas holdem calculation/evaluation

[<guy...@gm...>]

Hi all,

I'm quite a newbie with this stuff. I played with the examples, but
I'm a bit overwhelmed by all the functionality which is there. I't
partly also because i'm not all that familiar with all the poker
jargon out there :)

Anyway, this is what I'd like to do:

I'd like to pass it my first pre-flop 2 cards(perhaps also the number
of players?), and it should give me some sort of odds statistics.

Then repeat this for every fase-> flop, turn, river including these
cards into the equation as well.

Which functions do I need to do this?

btw Is it also possible to calculate pott odds?

Thanx,

--
Guyon Mor=E9e
guy...@gm...
http://gumuz.looze.net


--
Guyon Mor=E9e
guy...@gm...
http://gumuz.looze.net

Re: [Pokersource-users] texas holdem calculation/evaluation

[Tim S. <tj...@ps...>]

> btw Is it also possible to calculate pott odds?

If the pot is X and you're facing a bet of Y, the pot is laying you X:Y, 
or (X+Y)/Y.  But that's just the definition of pot odds.  Is that helpful?


As for the rest of your message--I'm the least knowledgable person who 
has commit access to the repository.

That said, I usually use hcmpn (in the examples directory) to figure out 
the odds, usually in retrospect--they won't let me have my laptop at the 
table, and the other players very seldom let me see their hand.

An example of the exact question you want an answer to would be helpful. 
   I think hcmpn is what you want, but I'm not sure.

Tim

Re: [Pokersource-users] texas holdem calculation/evaluation

[<guy...@gm...>]

Hi Tim,

Thanx for responding. I tried playing with hcmpn, as far as I can see
I need at least 2 hands, which is not what I want.

Let me try to be a bit clearer on my intentions: I basically want to
have a calculator for my online games. So I only my own cards and the
community cards.

I want to know stuff like: how much chance do i have to get a straight
on the turn, how much on the river etc.

This is what I want to evaluate.

thanx,

On 3/27/06, Tim Showalter <tj...@ps...> wrote:
> > btw Is it also possible to calculate pott odds?
>
> If the pot is X and you're facing a bet of Y, the pot is laying you X:Y,
> or (X+Y)/Y.  But that's just the definition of pot odds.  Is that helpful=
?
>
>
> As for the rest of your message--I'm the least knowledgable person who
> has commit access to the repository.
>
> That said, I usually use hcmpn (in the examples directory) to figure out
> the odds, usually in retrospect--they won't let me have my laptop at the
> table, and the other players very seldom let me see their hand.
>
> An example of the exact question you want an answer to would be helpful.
>    I think hcmpn is what you want, but I'm not sure.
>
> Tim
>


--
Guyon Mor=E9e
guy...@gm...
http://gumuz.looze.net

Re: [Pokersource-users] texas holdem calculation/evaluation

[Jeff S. <ss...@gm...>]

You don't need a program to do that.  Just simple math.

Use the rule of 4 after the flop and the rule of 2 after the turn.

Rule of 4:

After the flop, count the number of outs you have and multiply them by 4 to
get an approximate % to make your hand by the river.

If you have AhKh and the flop is 8h3c7h, you have 9 more hearts that can
make a flush.  9*4 =3D 36% to make a flush.  (You also have 3 aces and 3 ki=
ngs
as outs which give you a total of 14 outs (14*4 =3D 56% to improve your han=
d,
but not necessarily win, but the river)

Rule of 2:

Let's say the turn is a Jd  (board is now 8h3c7hJd):

You still have 9 more hearts as outs, but now your chances of getting it on
the river have dropped to 9*2 =3D 18 %  (You still have 3 kings and 3 aces,=
 so
your chances of improving your hand are 38%)

For a very easy to understand video on hand odds and pot odds:

http://www.expertinsight.com/_Poker+Toolbox.html

Watch the Odd & Outs clip.  There is also a odds chart there as well.

-Jeff


On 3/28/06, Guyon Mor=E9e <guy...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> Thanx for responding. I tried playing with hcmpn, as far as I can see
> I need at least 2 hands, which is not what I want.
>
> Let me try to be a bit clearer on my intentions: I basically want to
> have a calculator for my online games. So I only my own cards and the
> community cards.
>
> I want to know stuff like: how much chance do i have to get a straight
> on the turn, how much on the river etc.
>
> This is what I want to evaluate.
>
> thanx,
>
> On 3/27/06, Tim Showalter <tj...@ps...> wrote:
> > > btw Is it also possible to calculate pott odds?
> >
> > If the pot is X and you're facing a bet of Y, the pot is laying you X:Y=
,
> > or (X+Y)/Y.  But that's just the definition of pot odds.  Is that
> helpful?
> >
> >
> > As for the rest of your message--I'm the least knowledgable person who
> > has commit access to the repository.
> >
> > That said, I usually use hcmpn (in the examples directory) to figure ou=
t
> > the odds, usually in retrospect--they won't let me have my laptop at th=
e
> > table, and the other players very seldom let me see their hand.
> >
> > An example of the exact question you want an answer to would be helpful=
.
> >    I think hcmpn is what you want, but I'm not sure.
> >
> > Tim
> >
>
>
> --
> Guyon Mor=E9e
> guy...@gm...
> http://gumuz.looze.net
>
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Re: [Pokersource-users] texas holdem calculation/evaluation

[Tim S. <tj...@ps...>]

Guyon Mor=E9e wrote:
> Let me try to be a bit clearer on my intentions: I basically want to
> have a calculator for my online games. So I only my own cards and the
> community cards.
>=20
> I want to know stuff like: how much chance do i have to get a straight
> on the turn, how much on the river etc.
>=20
> This is what I want to evaluate.

Jeff's response is the right one.

This table might be helpful:

http://psaux.com/poker/killer-cards.html

A similar table can be found in Sklansky's "Hold 'Em Poker", or=20
Super/System 2.

Tim