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[Pointless-devel] Is Pointless being maintained?

[Robert P R. <ri...@cs...>]

Is pointless still being maintained? I've got several patches, but it
seems that there hasn't been a release in a long time.

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Re: [Pointless-devel] Is Pointless being maintained?

[Jacob W. P. <jw...@dm...>]

Hi Robert

Admitted, we have not been active for a very long time but we 
would still be most grateful for patches so please share them
with us and let us do a new distribution together. 

Cheers, Jacob

* Robert P Ricci <ri...@cs...> [2005-11-30 22:18]:
> Is pointless still being maintained? I've got several patches, but it
> seems that there hasn't been a release in a long time.
> 
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Re: [Pointless-devel] Is Pointless being maintained?

[Robert P R. <ri...@cs...>]

Okay, here are a few patches. I've broken them up into small pieces
so that it's easy for you to just take some of them if you want.

pointless-svg.patch - Adds a new command, =svg, for including SVG
    graphics (note - I've patched Makefile.am and configure.in, so it
    requires re-running automake and autoconf.)
pointless-coloreps.patch - Adds a new commands, =coloreps, for including
    eps graphics in color (w/ transparent background) instead of
    grayscale
pointless-cache.patch - Makes the svg and eps modules perform 'real'
    caching: if a cached version of the .png exists, they won't
    regenerate it unless it's older than the .eps or .png. I had some
    figures that took a long time to render on my laptop, so this sped
    things up considerably.  In order for this to work, I had to change
    the name of the cache directory to include the resolution. The SVG
    patch must be applied before this one
pointless-plp.patch - If the input filename ends in '.plp', runs it
    through the C pre-processor before opening it. I did this for a few
    reasons:
        * It allows me to use familiar #include and #define syntax
        * The =include command was doing strange things for me, like
          putting the included file into a strange order. I know, I
          should have just fixed it, but I wanted the full 'power', such
          as it is, of cpp
        * It lets me do 'header guard' type stuff for files included by
          more than one file. So, when I broke my presentation up into
          small files, I could have them all include 'defs.plp' so that
          I could use any of them standalone while I was working of
          them.
        * It theoretically allows the user to pass -DFOO type arguments
          to cpp, so that you could have the presentation behave
          differently depending on what arguments you passed to it. I
          don't have support for these yet, though
    Note - the processed file goes into $TMPDIR or /tmp - I wanted to
    put it into the cache dir, but the pll object doesn't yet exist at
    the time the .pll/.plp file is opened.
pointless-frame_duration.patch - There's an assert in the code that the
    duration of a frame is > 0. I found that if I left pointless sitting
    at one slide for too long, this would fire when I tried to leave the
    slide. Not too pretty in the middle of a talk. :) So I just changed
    the code to make the duration tiny but positive if this happens.
pointless-item_nostep.patch - I don't like the default behavior of
    having every item start a new step. I figured you guys might not
    take this patch, but some people might find it useful.

A tarball of the patches is available here:
http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/software/pointless-patches.tar.gz

Here are some slides that I made with pointless and these patches:
HTML/PNG:
http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/slides/assign-informs/
Source:
http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/slides/assign-informs.tar.gz

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Re: [Pointless-devel] Is Pointless being maintained?

[Jacob W. P. <jw...@dm...>]

Robert, I have browsed them quickly and it looks very good. Excelent!!! 
Thanks a lot. I will test them during the weekend and provide you proper
feedback. 

As to the future for pointless - We came to a point last year (or was it 
the year before - gush time flies) where we felt that we had a bunch of 
nice features but also that there were sharp corners here and there that
had to be reworked and cleaned before we proceeded with new features. We 
tried to get feedback on it, cf. the threads on the webpage regarding PLL 
and its parser but didn't really get some (I admit that they are pretty 
hard to comment on without browsing the code). Now, you have obviously 
browsed the code and may have some nice feedback to us one these issues 
as well. If you have some time during Christmas then we would be most
grateful if you would share your thoughts with us regarding these
threads.

Again, thanks a lot for the patches.

Cheers, 
Jacob

* Robert P Ricci <ri...@cs...> [2005-12-14 23:12]:
> Okay, here are a few patches. I've broken them up into small pieces
> so that it's easy for you to just take some of them if you want.
> 
> pointless-svg.patch - Adds a new command, =svg, for including SVG
>     graphics (note - I've patched Makefile.am and configure.in, so it
>     requires re-running automake and autoconf.)
> pointless-coloreps.patch - Adds a new commands, =coloreps, for including
>     eps graphics in color (w/ transparent background) instead of
>     grayscale
> pointless-cache.patch - Makes the svg and eps modules perform 'real'
>     caching: if a cached version of the .png exists, they won't
>     regenerate it unless it's older than the .eps or .png. I had some
>     figures that took a long time to render on my laptop, so this sped
>     things up considerably.  In order for this to work, I had to change
>     the name of the cache directory to include the resolution. The SVG
>     patch must be applied before this one
> pointless-plp.patch - If the input filename ends in '.plp', runs it
>     through the C pre-processor before opening it. I did this for a few
>     reasons:
>         * It allows me to use familiar #include and #define syntax
>         * The =include command was doing strange things for me, like
>           putting the included file into a strange order. I know, I
>           should have just fixed it, but I wanted the full 'power', such
>           as it is, of cpp
>         * It lets me do 'header guard' type stuff for files included by
>           more than one file. So, when I broke my presentation up into
>           small files, I could have them all include 'defs.plp' so that
>           I could use any of them standalone while I was working of
>           them.
>         * It theoretically allows the user to pass -DFOO type arguments
>           to cpp, so that you could have the presentation behave
>           differently depending on what arguments you passed to it. I
>           don't have support for these yet, though
>     Note - the processed file goes into $TMPDIR or /tmp - I wanted to
>     put it into the cache dir, but the pll object doesn't yet exist at
>     the time the .pll/.plp file is opened.
> pointless-frame_duration.patch - There's an assert in the code that the
>     duration of a frame is > 0. I found that if I left pointless sitting
>     at one slide for too long, this would fire when I tried to leave the
>     slide. Not too pretty in the middle of a talk. :) So I just changed
>     the code to make the duration tiny but positive if this happens.
> pointless-item_nostep.patch - I don't like the default behavior of
>     having every item start a new step. I figured you guys might not
>     take this patch, but some people might find it useful.
> 
> A tarball of the patches is available here:
> http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/software/pointless-patches.tar.gz
> 
> Here are some slides that I made with pointless and these patches:
> HTML/PNG:
> http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/slides/assign-informs/
> Source:
> http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/slides/assign-informs.tar.gz
> 
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Re: [Pointless-devel] Is Pointless being maintained?

[Robert P R. <ri...@cs...>]

Sure, I'll look at these things as soon as I can, and I'm willing to
help implement any suggestions I make.

Thus spake Jacob Weismann Poulsen on Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:47:48AM +0100:
> As to the future for pointless - We came to a point last year (or was it 
> the year before - gush time flies) where we felt that we had a bunch of 
> nice features but also that there were sharp corners here and there that
> had to be reworked and cleaned before we proceeded with new features. We 
> tried to get feedback on it, cf. the threads on the webpage regarding PLL 
> and its parser but didn't really get some (I admit that they are pretty 
> hard to comment on without browsing the code). Now, you have obviously 
> browsed the code and may have some nice feedback to us one these issues 
> as well. If you have some time during Christmas then we would be most
> grateful if you would share your thoughts with us regarding these
> threads.

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