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In the pointless distribution, there is a 'samples' directory. Take a
look at unicode.pll and at the top of viewme.pll . Hopefully, they will
provide the examples you need.

Thus spake Enrico Teotti on Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 09:57:29AM +0200:
> first let me tell you pointless is a bad name for me. Googling for
> help is pointless, it's too common word.
> Anyway the project is cool, I'm looking at it for some slides I have
> to do but I don't find a way to show UTF-8 chars... this is also not
> well explained in the doc:
> "You may refer to unicode characters in your presentation by using the
> =unicode command."
> can you please give me an example?
> THanks,
> Enrico
> 

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Hi,
first let me tell you pointless is a bad name for me. Googling for
help is pointless, it's too common word.
Anyway the project is cool, I'm looking at it for some slides I have
to do but I don't find a way to show UTF-8 chars... this is also not
well explained in the doc:
"You may refer to unicode characters in your presentation by using the
=3Dunicode command."
can you please give me an example?
THanks,
Enrico

--=20
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
is for good men to do nothing"
 Edmund Burke

my cv/r=E8sume http://www.esion.it/enricoteotti



Hi everybody,

Where can I find the last patches (pointless_0.5-6.diff to
pointless_0.5-9.1.diff) that appear on that page :
http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pointless.html

Thanks in advance !

Noel DUBRAY



Hello,

This is a quick (and perhaps dirty) patch I made because I needed to
disable the red line under slide titles. This patch adds support for
setting the line width, so the line is disabled when width is zero:

  =slide.set("line_width": 0)
  =slide This slide has no line under the title.

Moreover, I tried to add support for changing the color of the line --
and it turned to be harder than I expected, maybe because I didn't try
to understand how the PLL parser works... The color is changed like the
following:

  =slide.set("line_width": 3)
  =slide.set("line_color": "(1,1,0,1)")
  =slide This text has a thick yellow underline

I hope this patch will be useful for you.

Cheers,

-- 
Adrian Perez
"Experience is what you gen when you don't get what you want"
                                           -- (Dan Stanford)


Sure, I'll look at these things as soon as I can, and I'm willing to
help implement any suggestions I make.

Thus spake Jacob Weismann Poulsen on Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:47:48AM +0100:
> As to the future for pointless - We came to a point last year (or was it 
> the year before - gush time flies) where we felt that we had a bunch of 
> nice features but also that there were sharp corners here and there that
> had to be reworked and cleaned before we proceeded with new features. We 
> tried to get feedback on it, cf. the threads on the webpage regarding PLL 
> and its parser but didn't really get some (I admit that they are pretty 
> hard to comment on without browsing the code). Now, you have obviously 
> browsed the code and may have some nice feedback to us one these issues 
> as well. If you have some time during Christmas then we would be most
> grateful if you would share your thoughts with us regarding these
> threads.

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| Research Associate, University of Utah Flux Group
| www.flux.utah.edu | www.emulab.net
\-----------------------------------------------------------



Robert, I have browsed them quickly and it looks very good. Excelent!!! 
Thanks a lot. I will test them during the weekend and provide you proper
feedback. 

As to the future for pointless - We came to a point last year (or was it 
the year before - gush time flies) where we felt that we had a bunch of 
nice features but also that there were sharp corners here and there that
had to be reworked and cleaned before we proceeded with new features. We 
tried to get feedback on it, cf. the threads on the webpage regarding PLL 
and its parser but didn't really get some (I admit that they are pretty 
hard to comment on without browsing the code). Now, you have obviously 
browsed the code and may have some nice feedback to us one these issues 
as well. If you have some time during Christmas then we would be most
grateful if you would share your thoughts with us regarding these
threads.

Again, thanks a lot for the patches.

Cheers, 
Jacob

* Robert P Ricci <ri...@cs...> [2005-12-14 23:12]:
> Okay, here are a few patches. I've broken them up into small pieces
> so that it's easy for you to just take some of them if you want.
> 
> pointless-svg.patch - Adds a new command, =svg, for including SVG
>     graphics (note - I've patched Makefile.am and configure.in, so it
>     requires re-running automake and autoconf.)
> pointless-coloreps.patch - Adds a new commands, =coloreps, for including
>     eps graphics in color (w/ transparent background) instead of
>     grayscale
> pointless-cache.patch - Makes the svg and eps modules perform 'real'
>     caching: if a cached version of the .png exists, they won't
>     regenerate it unless it's older than the .eps or .png. I had some
>     figures that took a long time to render on my laptop, so this sped
>     things up considerably.  In order for this to work, I had to change
>     the name of the cache directory to include the resolution. The SVG
>     patch must be applied before this one
> pointless-plp.patch - If the input filename ends in '.plp', runs it
>     through the C pre-processor before opening it. I did this for a few
>     reasons:
>         * It allows me to use familiar #include and #define syntax
>         * The =include command was doing strange things for me, like
>           putting the included file into a strange order. I know, I
>           should have just fixed it, but I wanted the full 'power', such
>           as it is, of cpp
>         * It lets me do 'header guard' type stuff for files included by
>           more than one file. So, when I broke my presentation up into
>           small files, I could have them all include 'defs.plp' so that
>           I could use any of them standalone while I was working of
>           them.
>         * It theoretically allows the user to pass -DFOO type arguments
>           to cpp, so that you could have the presentation behave
>           differently depending on what arguments you passed to it. I
>           don't have support for these yet, though
>     Note - the processed file goes into $TMPDIR or /tmp - I wanted to
>     put it into the cache dir, but the pll object doesn't yet exist at
>     the time the .pll/.plp file is opened.
> pointless-frame_duration.patch - There's an assert in the code that the
>     duration of a frame is > 0. I found that if I left pointless sitting
>     at one slide for too long, this would fire when I tried to leave the
>     slide. Not too pretty in the middle of a talk. :) So I just changed
>     the code to make the duration tiny but positive if this happens.
> pointless-item_nostep.patch - I don't like the default behavior of
>     having every item start a new step. I figured you guys might not
>     take this patch, but some people might find it useful.
> 
> A tarball of the patches is available here:
> http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/software/pointless-patches.tar.gz
> 
> Here are some slides that I made with pointless and these patches:
> HTML/PNG:
> http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/slides/assign-informs/
> Source:
> http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/slides/assign-informs.tar.gz
> 
> -- 
> /-----------------------------------------------------------
> | Robert P Ricci <ri...@cs...> | <ri...@fl...>
> | Research Associate, University of Utah Flux Group
> | www.flux.utah.edu | www.emulab.net
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Okay, here are a few patches. I've broken them up into small pieces
so that it's easy for you to just take some of them if you want.

pointless-svg.patch - Adds a new command, =svg, for including SVG
    graphics (note - I've patched Makefile.am and configure.in, so it
    requires re-running automake and autoconf.)
pointless-coloreps.patch - Adds a new commands, =coloreps, for including
    eps graphics in color (w/ transparent background) instead of
    grayscale
pointless-cache.patch - Makes the svg and eps modules perform 'real'
    caching: if a cached version of the .png exists, they won't
    regenerate it unless it's older than the .eps or .png. I had some
    figures that took a long time to render on my laptop, so this sped
    things up considerably.  In order for this to work, I had to change
    the name of the cache directory to include the resolution. The SVG
    patch must be applied before this one
pointless-plp.patch - If the input filename ends in '.plp', runs it
    through the C pre-processor before opening it. I did this for a few
    reasons:
        * It allows me to use familiar #include and #define syntax
        * The =include command was doing strange things for me, like
          putting the included file into a strange order. I know, I
          should have just fixed it, but I wanted the full 'power', such
          as it is, of cpp
        * It lets me do 'header guard' type stuff for files included by
          more than one file. So, when I broke my presentation up into
          small files, I could have them all include 'defs.plp' so that
          I could use any of them standalone while I was working of
          them.
        * It theoretically allows the user to pass -DFOO type arguments
          to cpp, so that you could have the presentation behave
          differently depending on what arguments you passed to it. I
          don't have support for these yet, though
    Note - the processed file goes into $TMPDIR or /tmp - I wanted to
    put it into the cache dir, but the pll object doesn't yet exist at
    the time the .pll/.plp file is opened.
pointless-frame_duration.patch - There's an assert in the code that the
    duration of a frame is > 0. I found that if I left pointless sitting
    at one slide for too long, this would fire when I tried to leave the
    slide. Not too pretty in the middle of a talk. :) So I just changed
    the code to make the duration tiny but positive if this happens.
pointless-item_nostep.patch - I don't like the default behavior of
    having every item start a new step. I figured you guys might not
    take this patch, but some people might find it useful.

A tarball of the patches is available here:
http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/software/pointless-patches.tar.gz

Here are some slides that I made with pointless and these patches:
HTML/PNG:
http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/slides/assign-informs/
Source:
http://www.flux.utah.edu/users/ricci/slides/assign-informs.tar.gz

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| Research Associate, University of Utah Flux Group
| www.flux.utah.edu | www.emulab.net
\-----------------------------------------------------------



Hi Robert

Admitted, we have not been active for a very long time but we 
would still be most grateful for patches so please share them
with us and let us do a new distribution together. 

Cheers, Jacob

* Robert P Ricci <ri...@cs...> [2005-11-30 22:18]:
> Is pointless still being maintained? I've got several patches, but it
> seems that there hasn't been a release in a long time.
> 
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Is pointless still being maintained? I've got several patches, but it
seems that there hasn't been a release in a long time.

-- 
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| Robert P Ricci <ri...@cs...> | <ri...@fl...>
| Research Associate, University of Utah Flux Group
| www.flux.utah.edu | www.emulab.net
\-----------------------------------------------------------



I just found pointless, and like it a lot! Thanks!

I've made a module for SVG support (using rsvg for rendering). It's
attached. Sorry, though, no automake/autoconf goo included, I'm not
familiar with automake.

I've also attached a patch for the EPS support that adds a new function,
=coloreps to render EPS files in full color (w/ transparent
backgrounds).

Also, I'm running into an oddity with linebreaks in text (in 0.5). I
find that if pointless automatically does linebreaks for me, the text on
the full line gets 'justified' (ie. space added between the words so
that the line fills all horizontal space). But, if I put in breaks
myself with =br, the spacing between words is not expanded. I'd prefer
the latter behavior, but of course I don't want to have to manually
break all of the lines myself. Is there any way I could change this
behavior? (I went and looked at the linebreaking code, but couldn't
figure out why I'm getting the justification effect.)

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| Robert P Ricci <ri...@cs...> | <ri...@fl...>
| Research Associate, University of Utah Flux Group
| www.flux.utah.edu | www.emulab.net
\-----------------------------------------------------------

Hello.

I'm trying to add a function that would allow pointless to execute
commands that I specify.  I have added the following to register() in
the pllbasics.py file:

pll.add_command("execute:s", _execute)

and I added the following definition to the same file:

def _execute(args, parser):
        code =3D args[0]
        os.popen('%s'%(code))
        return []

The only problem is that the code that I pass with =3Dexecute("some
commands") gets executed as soon as I start the presentation, even if
it is several slides deep.  I'm not sure what to change that would
stop the parser from running the _execute routine as soon as it finds
it.  Thanks for any suggestions.



Hi Anjan,

Do you have the headers installed too, i.e. can you find for
instance the file Python.h (it should be located in a path
like /usr/include/python2.3/) ??? 

Cheers, Jacob
* Anjan Ghosh <an...@ii...> [2005-03-13 20:41]:
> Hi,
> When I try to install pointless-0.5 in my PC running Mandrake Linux 10.1
> I get an error when I try to run ./configure. The error is 
> "Checking for python 2.3 headers.. : error not found". I have python 2.3
> installed. The output of the ./configure session is attached. Please
> help. pointless is an interesting package and seems useful. I want to
> install it. Thanks.
> Anjan Ghosh
> 
> Professor
> IIT Kanpur
> India 208016

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Hi,
When I try to install pointless-0.5 in my PC running Mandrake Linux 10.1
I get an error when I try to run ./configure. The error is 
"Checking for python 2.3 headers.. : error not found". I have python 2.3
installed. The output of the ./configure session is attached. Please
help. pointless is an interesting package and seems useful. I want to
install it. Thanks.
Anjan Ghosh

Professor
IIT Kanpur
India 208016

Hi, I think that I'm going to like Pointless a lot since I'm growing
tired of pdflatex. A problem I run into right now is that including
greek_unicode in a slide doen't leave any space between the words. EG:

=greek_unicode

=slide The =alpha and =beta

will glue the alpha symbol right to the word "and" (see attached
file). Any solution to that? Thanks.

-B

Thanks Christian

Cheers, Jacob

* Christian Laursen <xi...@bo...> [2004-12-08 14:53]:
> I had to make these changes to get pointless to compile with 
> python 2.4.
> 
> diff -urN pointless-0.5.orig/config.h.in pointless-0.5/config.h.in
> --- pointless-0.5.orig/config.h.in	Tue Jan 27 21:35:08 2004
> +++ config.h.in	Thu Dec  2 17:14:28 2004
> @@ -199,6 +199,9 @@
>  /* Define as 1 if you have libpython2.3 */
>  #undef HAVE_PYTHON2_3
>  
> +/* Define as 1 if you have libpython2.4 */
> +#undef HAVE_PYTHON2_4
> +
>  /* Define as 1 if you have libsdl */
>  #undef HAVE_SDL
>  
> diff -urN pointless-0.5.orig/configure.in pointless-0.5/configure.in
> --- pointless-0.5.orig/configure.in	Sat Jan 24 15:17:50 2004
> +++ configure.in	Thu Dec  2 17:13:59 2004
> @@ -517,6 +517,12 @@
>  if test x$PYTHON_VERSION = x2.3; then
>  	AC_DEFINE([HAVE_PYTHON2_3])
>  fi
> +AH_TEMPLATE([HAVE_PYTHON2_4],
> +	[Define as 1 if you have libpython2.4])
> +AM_PATH_PYTHON_DEV 
> +if test x$PYTHON_VERSION = x2.4; then
> +	AC_DEFINE([HAVE_PYTHON2_4])
> +fi
>  
>  # *****************************************************************************
>  # Checks for typedefs, structures, and compiler characteristics.
> diff -urN pointless-0.5.orig/src/nodecontroller.h pointless-0.5/src/nodecontroller.h
> --- pointless-0.5.orig/src/nodecontroller.h	Tue Dec 16 23:33:21 2003
> +++ src/nodecontroller.h	Thu Dec  2 16:50:16 2004
> @@ -34,6 +34,8 @@
>  #  include <python2.2/Python.h>
>  #elif HAVE_PYTHON2_3
>  #  include <python2.3/Python.h>
> +#elif HAVE_PYTHON2_4
> +#  include <python2.4/Python.h>
>  #endif
>  
>  #include "common.h"
> diff -urN pointless-0.5.orig/src/pointless_wrap.cpp pointless-0.5/src/pointless_wrap.cpp
> --- pointless-0.5.orig/src/pointless_wrap.cpp	Tue Jan  6 22:18:36 2004
> +++ src/pointless_wrap.cpp	Thu Dec  2 16:50:44 2004
> @@ -42,6 +42,8 @@
>  # endif
>  #elif HAVE_PYTHON2_3
>  #  include <python2.3/Python.h>
> +#elif HAVE_PYTHON2_4
> +#  include <python2.4/Python.h>
>  #endif
>  
>  #ifndef HAVE_SDL
> 
> 
> -- 
> Christian Laursen
> 
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I had to make these changes to get pointless to compile with 
python 2.4.

diff -urN pointless-0.5.orig/config.h.in pointless-0.5/config.h.in

--- pointless-0.5.orig/config.h.in	Tue Jan 27 21:35:08 2004
+++ config.h.in	Thu Dec  2 17:14:28 2004
@@ -199,6 +199,9 @@
 /* Define as 1 if you have libpython2.3 */
 #undef HAVE_PYTHON2_3
 
+/* Define as 1 if you have libpython2.4 */
+#undef HAVE_PYTHON2_4
+
 /* Define as 1 if you have libsdl */
 #undef HAVE_SDL
 
diff -urN pointless-0.5.orig/configure.in pointless-0.5/configure.in
--- pointless-0.5.orig/configure.in	Sat Jan 24 15:17:50 2004
+++ configure.in	Thu Dec  2 17:13:59 2004
@@ -517,6 +517,12 @@
 if test x$PYTHON_VERSION = x2.3; then
 	AC_DEFINE([HAVE_PYTHON2_3])
 fi
+AH_TEMPLATE([HAVE_PYTHON2_4],
+	[Define as 1 if you have libpython2.4])
+AM_PATH_PYTHON_DEV 
+if test x$PYTHON_VERSION = x2.4; then
+	AC_DEFINE([HAVE_PYTHON2_4])
+fi
 
 # *****************************************************************************
 # Checks for typedefs, structures, and compiler characteristics.
diff -urN pointless-0.5.orig/src/nodecontroller.h pointless-0.5/src/nodecontroller.h
--- pointless-0.5.orig/src/nodecontroller.h	Tue Dec 16 23:33:21 2003
+++ src/nodecontroller.h	Thu Dec  2 16:50:16 2004
@@ -34,6 +34,8 @@
 #  include <python2.2/Python.h>
 #elif HAVE_PYTHON2_3
 #  include <python2.3/Python.h>
+#elif HAVE_PYTHON2_4
+#  include <python2.4/Python.h>
 #endif
 
 #include "common.h"
diff -urN pointless-0.5.orig/src/pointless_wrap.cpp pointless-0.5/src/pointless_wrap.cpp
--- pointless-0.5.orig/src/pointless_wrap.cpp	Tue Jan  6 22:18:36 2004
+++ src/pointless_wrap.cpp	Thu Dec  2 16:50:44 2004
@@ -42,6 +42,8 @@
 # endif
 #elif HAVE_PYTHON2_3
 #  include <python2.3/Python.h>
+#elif HAVE_PYTHON2_4
+#  include <python2.4/Python.h>
 #endif
 
 #ifndef HAVE_SDL


-- 
Christian Laursen



I ran into the same problem mentioned on this list back in april.
(Same ubject as this mail).

I "fixed" it by making the following change to the pointless source
to make room for more textures.

The comment indicates that the current way is not the final one, and
my change certainly isn't either (But it works for now so I can get
this presentation done).

--- src/primitive.cpp.orig	Thu Oct 28 21:06:55 2004
+++ src/primitive.cpp	Thu Oct 28 21:06:58 2004
@@ -481,7 +481,7 @@
 bool TileBank::new_texture()
 {
 	log_debug("New texture, no %i", _textures.size());
-	if (_textures.size() > 100) { // FIXME MAGIC NUMBER
+	if (_textures.size() > 500) { // FIXME MAGIC NUMBER
 		log_warning("No more room for textures in texture-bank");
 		return false;
 	}


-- 
Christian Laursen



I'm in the process of doing a presentation using a lot of items.

Whenever an item spans multiple lines the text gets adjusted to the
right margin and often that looks quite bad.

Is it possible to avoid that in some way?

-- 
Christian Laursen



Hi,

> Is pointless still under development at all? This list seems to be very quiet...
> 

This is a very fair question since we have all been VERY
quiet for a very long time - so sorry! I am sure that I
speak for all of us when I say that pointless is not forgotten
and that we hope that development soon can begin again. It may
sound like a very bad excuse but the truth is that all three of
us have found a new place to live within the last 12 months (not
as easy as it may sound) and we have spend most of our spare time
doing so. Consequently, none of us have had much time left for
pointless. I hope that this fact kind of explains the silence. 
Thanks a lot for the patience you have shown us and thanks for the
patches too. 

Cheers, Jacob
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Hello,

Is pointless still under development at all? This list seems to be very quiet...

Anyway, I really like this tool and would like to keep it going. I
have just made a small patch that adds some latin2 characters to the
unicode module that I need to use to have slovenian characters; if
anybody is interested, I can expand it and make a proper latin2
command analogoues to greek_unicode...
Cheers,

anze

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ammo and laser designators beats a bunch of punks with baseball bats."



Hi ppl.

Well, going straight to the point: while working with tables, pointless=20
was giving some errors to me. For example, if i made something like:

=3Ditem blah
=3Dsubitem bleh
=3Ditem blih
=3Dsubitem bloh

=3Dbegin-table =3Drow ...
=3Dend-table

I got the following error:

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/local/bin/pointless", line 1986, in ?
     main()
   File "/usr/local/bin/pointless", line 1977, in main
     while(run_slideshow()): pass
   File "/usr/local/bin/pointless", line 1759, in run_slideshow
     slide.makenode(available)
   File "/usr/local/bin/pointless", line 472, in makenode
     n.makenode(available - v3(w,0,0))
   File "/usr/local/bin/pointless", line 590, in makenode
     for cell in row:
TypeError: iteration over non-sequence

-----

The error was gone if I placed a '=3Dslide' before the '=3Dbegin-table'.

Turning on debugging showed a 'ControllerToken(pllcontroller.AlphaFader)'=
=20
after the last '<Leaf>' element. So - as I'm not a Python programmer -=20
I treated this case using code from the NodeList class. A better solution=
=20
could be made reusing it's code, IMHO.

Anyway, the problem is gone and everything seems to be working ok, so I'm=
=20
sending a diff from the code. I hope it's going to be useful.

Best regards,
--
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--
Ci=EAncias da Computa=E7=E3o (cco021)
Universidade Federal de Santa Catarina
--
Usu=E1rio GNU/(Linux #217916) -- BNU-FNS/SC, Brasil
--
Hello

I'd like to do a Dual Screen pr=E9sentation, so I have my laptop with it'=
s=20
screen and VGA out.
On the VGA out, I have simples slides and the screen, I have another=20
slide with more details and what I'm supposed to say.

I can easly generate both slides .pll file from a single one with a=20
small parser script. What I would need is a way to synchronize key press=20
between two instances
so when I press a key both are advanced.


Thanks,

    Sylvain


PS: I'm not a list subscriber so that would be nice to use reply-all ;)



Hi,

pointless seem exactly what I was looking for for some time now...
Prosper just doesn't cut it...

Now, I have immediate problems:

a) Installing was a pain... rpm from suse didn't work complaining
about pllshared missing... rpm from your site didn't work with the
same complaint... Downloaded source, copied all modues to
python2.3/site-specific and hacked and pth file to have all modules
there... Now it works.

b) Started hacking viewme.pll, undocumented:

=slide.set('move_in':0.0, 0.0, -400.0)
=slide.set('move_out':0.0, 0.0, -400.0)
=slide.set('in_delay':0.2)

and now it crashes with
This is pointless, Version 0.5
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/pointless", line 1989, in ?
    main()
  File "/usr/bin/pointless", line 1980, in main
    while(run_slideshow()): pass
  File "/usr/bin/pointless", line 1772, in run_slideshow
    slideshow.reset()
  File "/usr/bin/pointless", line 1023, in reset
    o.on_leave(instant=1)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/pointless/pllcontroller.py",
line 161, in on_leave
    self.set()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/pointless/pllcontroller.py",
line 221, in set
    self.node.set_pos(
TypeError: unsubscriptable object


I then hacked the actual pointless and I could achieve the slides
flying all over the place... However,

c) I want to make fade in and fade out faster... So exactly what is
happening at the moment but faster... If I change just in_delay, the
fade in starts happening before previous slide fades_out completelly,
which is not what I want... I just want it to go faster... Looked at
the documentation but couldn't find anything useful...
Any hints?

anze


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